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Jun 22, 2011 3:53 PM
Speedofsand;810267 wrote:Mike Ford (#11 car), Dave Rogers (#18 car) and Greg Zipadelli (#20 car) have been fined $50,000 each and placed on NASCAR probation until Dec. 31. In addition, all three car chiefs Chris Gillin (#11 car), Wesley Sherrill (#18 car) and Jason Shapiro (#20 car) along with Senior Vice President of Racing Operations Jimmy Makar have been placed on NASCAR probation until Dec. 31.

While a standard NASCAR Sprint Cup oil pan weighs about 4 pounds, the three taken off the Gibbs cars weighed an estimated 20-30 pounds apiece.

funny thing is, Hamlin won the race with a normal oil pan.

Am I missing something? What advantage does a weighted oil pan give you? More front downforce?
Jun 22, 2011 3:53pm
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Jun 22, 2011 4:00 PM
coyotes22;810308 wrote:Am I missing something? What advantage does a weighted oil pan give you? More front downforce?

Lowers the center of gravity on the car to help with turning would be my guess.
Jun 22, 2011 4:00pm
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Jun 22, 2011 4:41 PM
Terry_Tate;810312 wrote:Lowers the center of gravity on the car to help with turning would be my guess.

Correct. Lets you displace weight from the rear and put it up front. Which as you said, gives them the turning advantage.
Jun 22, 2011 4:41pm
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Jun 22, 2011 6:04 PM
I really don't get why the Crew Chiefs are in any trouble but oh well.
Jun 22, 2011 6:04pm
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Jun 22, 2011 6:11 PM
Also the oil pans only weighed 12-16 pounds. Not 20-30.
Jun 22, 2011 6:11pm
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Jun 22, 2011 7:51 PM
Tiger2003;810449 wrote:I really don't get why the Crew Chiefs are in any trouble but oh well.

Ummm, because they are responsible for every part that gets put on that car maybe?
Jun 22, 2011 7:51pm
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Jun 22, 2011 7:53 PM
Tiger2003;810462 wrote:Also the oil pans only weighed 12-16 pounds. Not 20-30.

Not sure where you're getting that. Every report I've seen has them at 20-30. But regardless, that's not the issue. The issue is the fact that they didn't get the part approved by NASCAR before using it. It's not necessarily an illegal part, they just didn't get the proper approval beforehand. Every part on that car has to be approved by NASCAR.
Jun 22, 2011 7:53pm
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Jun 22, 2011 8:23 PM
Yes I know every part has to be approved but the Car Chief should be the one with the fine not the crew chief. But like I said oh well it's not that big of a deal. Read it earlier on a site. They said it was 3x the allowed weight.
Jun 22, 2011 8:23pm
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Jun 22, 2011 10:51 PM
Car Chief gets the pieces approved by NASCAR. Crew Chief has a hand on what parts are put on that car.
Jun 22, 2011 10:51pm
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Jun 23, 2011 12:01 AM
GoChiefs;810805 wrote:Car Chief gets the pieces approved by NASCAR. Crew Chief has a hand on what parts are put on that car.

I know that but if the car chiefs said do it they are at fault. I agree they should all be on probation but thought the fine should be on the car chiefs. Also how was Gibbs not fined? Or did I miss that.

But oh well they weren't ever used and Denny got the win.

Hoping Kurt gets a win soon he is due.
Jun 23, 2011 12:01am
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Jun 23, 2011 7:42 AM
Car Chief isn't putting anything on that car that the Crew Chief doesn't want on it. They are both equally at fault.
Jun 23, 2011 7:42am
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Jun 23, 2011 10:36 AM
GoChiefs;810953 wrote:Car Chief isn't putting anything on that car that the Crew Chief doesn't want on it. They are both equally at fault.

I know that but I think someone higher up should have been the one who got a fine as well. It not like only one of the Gibbs cars did the oil pan. I love Joe Gibbs but he is the one who had to give the order to get those new oil pans to the track and put in the cars.
Jun 23, 2011 10:36am
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Jun 23, 2011 10:38 AM
Tiger2003;811073 wrote:I know that but I think someone higher up should have been the one who got a fine as well. It not like only one of the Gibbs cars did the oil pan. I love Joe Gibbs but he is the one who had to give the order to get those new oil pans to the track and put in the cars.

They should just suspend the entire JGR team for 5 races.


:D
Jun 23, 2011 10:38am
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Jun 23, 2011 11:09 AM
coyotes22;811074 wrote:They should just suspend the entire JGR team for 5 races.


:D

Come on man. :)

Then it would be boring with no Kyle.
Jun 23, 2011 11:09am
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Jun 23, 2011 11:51 AM
Tiger2003;811098 wrote:Come on man. :)

Then it would be boring with no Kyle.

And safer. :D
Jun 23, 2011 11:51am
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Jun 23, 2011 1:01 PM
coyotes22;811129 wrote:And safer. :D

Maybe a little but you still got Robby Gordon. :)
Jun 23, 2011 1:01pm
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Jun 23, 2011 1:09 PM
Tiger2003;811199 wrote:Maybe a little but you still got Robby Gordon. :)

He only hurts himself. LOL
Jun 23, 2011 1:09pm
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Jun 23, 2011 2:14 PM
coyotes22;811205 wrote:He only hurts himself. LOL

Lol very true.

Who is excited for some right turns?
Jun 23, 2011 2:14pm
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Jun 23, 2011 2:17 PM
Tiger2003;811322 wrote:Lol very true.

Who is excited for some right turns?

I actually love the road course races. WG more than Sonoma, tho.
Jun 23, 2011 2:17pm
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Jun 23, 2011 2:20 PM
Tiger2003;811073 wrote:I know that but I think someone higher up should have been the one who got a fine as well. It not like only one of the Gibbs cars did the oil pan. I love Joe Gibbs but he is the one who had to give the order to get those new oil pans to the track and put in the cars.

Someone higher up did get fined. Jimmy Makar. And sorry, but I highly doubt Joe Gibbs personally knew anything about it.
Jun 23, 2011 2:20pm
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Jun 23, 2011 2:21 PM
Tiger2003;811322 wrote:Who is excited for some right turns?

Luckily, I will be working.
Jun 23, 2011 2:21pm
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Jun 23, 2011 2:22 PM
Just curious, why is this thread even in the pro sports forum?
Jun 23, 2011 2:22pm
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Jun 23, 2011 2:28 PM
like_that;811336 wrote:Just curious, did you guys know I like boys?

Yes we did.
Jun 23, 2011 2:28pm
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Jun 23, 2011 2:29 PM
Tiger2003;811345 wrote:Yes we did.

ha nice a gay reference...maybe you violated don't ask don't tell.
Jun 23, 2011 2:29pm
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Jun 23, 2011 2:30 PM
GoChiefs;811333 wrote:Luckily, I will be working.

You guys still swamped then?
Jun 23, 2011 2:30pm