BCS Standings - 11/21

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1 Oregon .9764
2 Auburn .9682
3 TCU .8995
4 Boise State .8860
5 LSU .8193
6 Stanford .7763
7 Wisconsin .7688
8 Ohio State .7148
9 Oklahoma State .6815
10 Michigan State .6063
11 Alabama .6019
12 Arkansas .5697
13 Oklahoma .5041
14 Missouri .4564
15 Nebraska .4423
16 Virginia Tech .4213
17 Texas A&M .3607
18 South Carolina .3583
19 Nevada .2943
20 Utah .1961
21 Arizona .1848
22 Florida State .1296
23 North Carolina State .0923
24 Iowa .0899
25 Mississippi State .0862
Nov 21, 2010 7:35pm
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Nov 21, 2010 7:36 PM
Looks about right other than I don't think LSU or Stanford are really that great.
Nov 21, 2010 7:36pm
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Nov 21, 2010 7:41 PM
LSU @ Arkansas could be a big game next week in terms of the Rose Bowl, since they are between Wisconsin and OSU in the human polls. An LSU loss could be enough for the Bucks to pass Wisky up (I really have no idea how the calculations work... but it would definitely make things close).
Nov 21, 2010 7:41pm
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Nov 21, 2010 7:44 PM
I just noticed that Stanford jumped Ohio State in the Harris Poll. Talk about a joke. Stanford hasn't beaten a team all year as good as Iowa.

Stanford has beaten 3 teams all year with a winning record. They won't play another one. Ohio State has beaten 5 teams with winning records and still has one more to go.
Nov 21, 2010 7:44pm
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Nov 21, 2010 8:15 PM
If Wisconsin wins Saturday,they go to the Rose Bowl,plain and simple

If OSU jumps Wisconsin,it would be complete and total BS
Nov 21, 2010 8:15pm
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Nov 21, 2010 8:18 PM
Ty Webb;570037 wrote:If Wisconsin wins Saturday,they go to the Rose Bowl,plain and simple

If OSU jumps Wisconsin,it would be complete and total BS

No way OSU jumps Wisky if both win...that would be a travesty.
Nov 21, 2010 8:18pm
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Nov 21, 2010 8:20 PM
I agree,but would it really suprise you?
Nov 21, 2010 8:20pm
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Nov 21, 2010 8:21 PM
This week and Friday will really start to clear up things.

No problem with the standings really.
Nov 21, 2010 8:21pm
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Nov 21, 2010 8:23 PM
Ty Webb;570048 wrote:I agree,but would it really suprise you?
I cannot think of any plausible scenario where if both teams won, OSU would make up the over .05 difference and jump Wisconsin.
Nov 21, 2010 8:23pm
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Nov 21, 2010 8:24 PM
Ty Webb;570048 wrote:I agree,but would it really suprise you?

Honestly, it would. A head to head beatdown should be enough. And on the money side of things, Wisky is a pretty decent draw(from what I have heard), so any bowl would be tickled to have them.
Nov 21, 2010 8:24pm
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Nov 21, 2010 8:30 PM
Cleveland Buck;569986 wrote:I just noticed that Stanford jumped Ohio State in the Harris Poll. Talk about a joke. Stanford hasn't beaten a team all year as good as Iowa.

Stanford has beaten 3 teams all year with a winning record. They won't play another one. Ohio State has beaten 5 teams with winning records and still has one more to go.
The simple counter-argument:
Stanford 42 Arizona 17
Arizona 34 Iowa 27
Ohio State 20 Iowa 17
Nov 21, 2010 8:30pm
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Nov 21, 2010 8:34 PM
Cleveland Buck;569986 wrote:I just noticed that Stanford jumped Ohio State in the Harris Poll. Talk about a joke. Stanford hasn't beaten a team all year as good as Iowa.

Stanford has beaten 3 teams all year with a winning record. They won't play another one. Ohio State has beaten 5 teams with winning records and still has one more to go.

They beat the team that beat Iowa (Arizona). It seems about right to me. As of right now, they both have beaten only 1 ranked team, and Stanford's ranked team is ranked higher than OSU's ranked team. Also Stanford has the "better" loss.
Nov 21, 2010 8:34pm
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Nov 21, 2010 8:35 PM
purple_rein;570073 wrote:The simple counter-argument:
Stanford 42 Arizona 17
Arizona 34 Iowa 27
Ohio State 20 Iowa 17

Simple is a good word. Meaningless is a better one.
Nov 21, 2010 8:35pm
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Nov 21, 2010 8:41 PM
purple_rein;570073 wrote:The simple counter-argument:
Stanford 42 Arizona 17
Arizona 34 Iowa 27
Ohio State 20 Iowa 17

that makes about as much sense as..
Oregon 38, Purdue 36
Oregon 47, USC 20
Ohio State 15, USC 18
Ohio State 18, Purdue 26
Ohio State 27, Oregon 16
Nov 21, 2010 8:41pm
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Nov 21, 2010 9:34 PM
i don't think Wisconsin loses at home on Senior Day against a banged up Northwestern who just got shredded for 330 on the ground by Illinois..

although I'll certainly be rooting for it to happen.

I don't know if Michigan State wins on Saturday either. They're 0-8 all time in Happy Valley.

And I certainly think that LSU is ripe to go down against Arkansas
Nov 21, 2010 9:34pm
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Nov 22, 2010 3:59 PM
Cleveland Buck;570081 wrote:Simple is a good word. Meaningless is a better one.
You said "Stanford hasn't beaten a team all year as good as Iowa."

They crushed a team better than Iowa. Refute with facts please.
Nov 22, 2010 3:59pm
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Nov 22, 2010 6:17 PM
If Wisconsin should go over Ohio State why shouldn't MSU go over Wisconsin?
Nov 22, 2010 6:17pm
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Nov 22, 2010 8:02 PM
gamauter;571400 wrote:If Wisconsin should go over Ohio State why shouldn't MSU go over Wisconsin?

MSU has the worst loss between the 3.
Nov 22, 2010 8:02pm
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Nov 22, 2010 8:06 PM
purple_rein;571211 wrote:You said "Stanford hasn't beaten a team all year as good as Iowa."

They crushed a team better than Iowa. Refute with facts please.

Do you honestly believe that just because a team beat another team on a random ass Saturday, it makes them a better team??

Simple example, Iowa lost to Northwestern.
Nov 22, 2010 8:06pm
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Nov 22, 2010 8:07 PM
wildcats20;571566 wrote:Do you honestly believe that just because a team beat another team on a random ass Saturday, it makes them a better team??

Simple example, Iowa lost to Northwestern.

No, but unfortunately the way college football works, that is the only thing we can go by.
Nov 22, 2010 8:07pm
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Nov 22, 2010 8:14 PM
like_that;571569 wrote:No, but unfortunately the way college football works, that is the only thing we can go by.

+1. Without a playoff, we're forced to make these kinds of comparisons
Nov 22, 2010 8:14pm
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Nov 22, 2010 8:17 PM
Oh, well that's a relief. I thought there was going to be all kinds of debate on if Boise State is deserving of a shot at the national title, but their best win is against a team worse than James Madison, so I guess that means they aren't deserving.
Nov 22, 2010 8:17pm
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Nov 22, 2010 8:22 PM
Cleveland Buck;571593 wrote:Oh, well that's a relief. I thought there was going to be all kinds of debate on if Boise State is deserving of a shot at the national title, but their best win is against a team worse than James Madison, so I guess that means they aren't deserving.

Va Tech lost to James Madison
Ohio State beat Miami
Va Tech beat Miami

How does James Madison stack up against Ohio State?

I love hearing fellow Buckeye fans bash Boise State/TCU's schedule. If Ohio State doesn't win the Big 10 championship, we can at least hang our hat on the fact that we were MAC champions this year.
Nov 22, 2010 8:22pm
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Nov 22, 2010 8:23 PM
like_that;571569 wrote:No, but unfortunately the way college football works, that is the only thing we can go by.

Or we could just do the easiest thing which was stated first: look at the quality of teams that each team has beaten.
Stanford 42 Arizona 17
Arizona 34 Iowa 27
Ohio State 20 Iowa 17
Don't try to validate the transitive property by adding a fourth variable to the equation. That only makes it less accurate that it already is by adding more variable change. That makes it more complicated than simple.
Nov 22, 2010 8:23pm
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Nov 22, 2010 8:25 PM
jordo212000;571600 wrote:Va Tech lost to James Madison
Ohio State beat Miami
Va Tech beat Miami

How does James Madison stack up against Ohio State?

I love hearing fellow Buckeye fans bash Boise State/TCU's schedule. If Ohio State doesn't win the Big 10 championship, we can at least hang our hat on the fact that we were MAC champions this year.

I know you love to rip Ohio State, but I didn't mention them. Just so we are clear, Virginia Tech is worse than James Madison, correct?
Nov 22, 2010 8:25pm