Pryor or Colleros?

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Nov 29, 2009 8:09 PM
Both will be entering their 3rd year. Please enter honest opinions as to which QB you would want on otherwise evenly matched teams.
Nov 29, 2009 8:09pm
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Nov 29, 2009 8:17 PM
Based on potential? Pryor. Based on what I've actually seen from both......I gotta go with Collaros.
Nov 29, 2009 8:17pm
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Nov 29, 2009 8:18 PM
Otherwise evenly matched teams?

I'll just say this, OSU has so much more depth it's laughable. That's not a knock against Cinci, but the two are nowhere even close to being evenly matched top to bottom.
Nov 29, 2009 8:18pm
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Nov 29, 2009 8:23 PM
killer_ewok wrote: Based on potential? Pryor. Based on what I've actually seen from both......I gotta go with Collaros.
This.

Imagine if Collaros was throwing the ball to Pryor, could be a pretty deadly combination.
Nov 29, 2009 8:23pm
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Nov 29, 2009 8:25 PM
Zach Collaros, and I don't even think its close.

Now excuse me while I go vomit for saying something good about a UC player.
Nov 29, 2009 8:25pm
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Nov 29, 2009 8:27 PM
I would take Pryor, but I'll take Cinci's offensive system to go with it.
Nov 29, 2009 8:27pm
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Nov 29, 2009 8:30 PM
killer_ewok wrote: Based on potential? Pryor. Based on what I've actually seen from both......I gotta go with Collaros.
I agree with this. However, I would like to see how Collaros does against OSU's schedule and Pryor against Cincy's schedule.
Nov 29, 2009 8:30pm
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Nov 29, 2009 8:33 PM
dwccrew wrote:
killer_ewok wrote: Based on potential? Pryor. Based on what I've actually seen from both......I gotta go with Collaros.
I agree with this. However, I would like to see how Collaros does against OSU's schedule and Pryor against Cincy's schedule.
I don't think its fair to compare any athlete operating under the Jim Tressel philosophy of offense to one that is being used correctly.

So I retract my statement about Collaros earlier, its not fair to Pryor.
Nov 29, 2009 8:33pm
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Nov 29, 2009 8:34 PM
Collaros just seems to have that "it" factor that Pryor lacks. I'd take Zack everyday of the week.
Nov 29, 2009 8:34pm
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Nov 29, 2009 8:36 PM
You can't take Pryor and throw him into Cincinnati's offense, that would be a disaster. You can't ask Pryor to throw the ball 40 plus times a game.

To answer the question, I'd take Collaros.
Nov 29, 2009 8:36pm
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Nov 29, 2009 8:49 PM
thedynasty1998 wrote: You can't take Pryor and throw him into Cincinnati's offense, that would be a disaster. You can't ask Pryor to throw the ball 40 plus times a game.

To answer the question, I'd take Collaros.
Brian Kelly always gives his QB's a chance to run the ball if they see it is there. Collaros has had huge success doing just that this year.
Nov 29, 2009 8:49pm
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Nov 29, 2009 9:00 PM
Colleros
Nov 29, 2009 9:00pm
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Nov 29, 2009 9:09 PM
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Nov 29, 2009 9:09pm
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Nov 29, 2009 9:10 PM
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Nov 29, 2009 9:10pm
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Nov 29, 2009 9:22 PM
Colleros. The Buckeyes offense became more consistent later in the year when the coaching staff decided to stop making Pryor the focal point of the offense and to lean on the run with Herron and Saine complementing Pryor's fantastic running ability. As a QB Pryor hasn't progressed very much at all, certainly not as much as anyone was expecting or wanting him to.
Nov 29, 2009 9:22pm
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Nov 29, 2009 10:04 PM
Mr. 300 wrote: Collaros just seems to have that "it" factor that Pryor lacks. I'd take Zack everyday of the week.

"it"= team before self...
Nov 29, 2009 10:04pm
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Nov 29, 2009 10:07 PM
pooter wrote:
Mr. 300 wrote: Collaros just seems to have that "it" factor that Pryor lacks. I'd take Zack everyday of the week.

"it"= team before self...
Explain how Pryor isn't team before self, if that's what you believe.
Nov 29, 2009 10:07pm
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Nov 29, 2009 10:12 PM
^^^^ Pryor puts way to much on his shoulders.... trying to do way to much.... Zack seems to have faith in the players around him...
Nov 29, 2009 10:12pm
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Nov 29, 2009 10:13 PM
Louisville
Syracuse
Connecticut
West Virginia

Those are the 4 teams Collaros actually played against...I'll wait til he actually plays a defense to compare the two QBs.
Nov 29, 2009 10:13pm
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Nov 30, 2009 12:16 AM
september63 wrote: Both will be entering their 3rd year. Please enter honest opinions as to which QB you would want on otherwise evenly matched teams.
Collaros will be entering his 4th season, and Pryor his 3rd.
Nov 30, 2009 12:16am
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Nov 30, 2009 12:27 AM
Give me Collaros any day of the week twice on Saturday.
Nov 30, 2009 12:27am
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Nov 30, 2009 11:38 AM
Pryor got to play a typical team on Cincinnati's schedule. It was New Mexico and he only had to play in the first half. Lets see how Collaros does against USC, Penn St. or Iowa.
Kelley's system lets Pike and Collaros succeed. That and a joke of a schedule.
Nov 30, 2009 11:38am
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Nov 30, 2009 11:55 AM
I would proclaim USC's defense as world beaters. They gave up 55 to Stanford, 47 to Oregon and even Oregon State put up 36 on them (Oregon State only put up 18 on UC by the way).

Other than Iowa and PSU, OSU did not play any better defenses than what UC faced this year. New Mexico is is one of the 10 worst teams in CFB. OSU also played Minnesota, Illinois, Michigan, Toledo, Navy, Purdue Indiana-- all bad defenses and worse than Oregon State, Rutgers, USF, WVU and Pitt.
Nov 30, 2009 11:55am
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Nov 30, 2009 11:56 AM
Pryor--hands down
Nov 30, 2009 11:56am
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Nov 30, 2009 12:00 PM
First off, it's not hands down. It depends on system and opinion.

Secondly, why does everyone think that Cincinnati's schedule is such a joke? Is it only because they play in the Big East?
Nov 30, 2009 12:00pm