Spread All Day;558670 wrote:Ursuline is. Oh and Dover will find out who Mooney is too. If they get there.

In D5, yes, they most certainly are.

Crimson and Gray Hair;557418 wrote:What a great game. So the poll's a bit arrogant, but I'm HAPPY! Certainly no disrespect mean toward Sheridan, IMO you were by far the best team we've seen this year.

by far ...LOL...cmon man.......How bout the teams you lost to .....Bet we would beat Sheridan ..But then we will have to wait till next year ..

Thinthickbigred;559027 wrote:by far ...LOL...cmon man.......How bout the teams you lost to .....Bet we would beat Sheridan ..But then we will have to wait till next year ..

Now ya' know Thin, there's a big difference between weeks 2 and 4 and week 12. I could go back to either loss and show several instances where Dover miscues were so costly as to easily be blamed for those loses. But any of us could do that with just about any game we play and on both sides of the ball. We can look at Dover/Steubenville or Dover/Sheridan, put up a few 'if only's' and make a real good case for either loser to win. Mistakes are just as much a part of the game as good execution. The best teams still work around them and find the way to win.
Both of those Dover loses were very close contests that could easily have ended in a W for Dover, but none the less they didn't.

Maybe Big Red could have beaten Sheridan but we'll never know because you couldn't beat Dover and get the chance to find out. Maybe Dover could have beaten Steubenville three times in a row this year but we'll never know cuz' that's not how it works either. You get your one shot in the playouts and if you can't 'do it' you go home and wash your uniforms! On those givens nights seeds 2 and 3 couldn't 'do it' seed 7 could!

Yeap...you can wait until next year; you can bask in the glory of past years. And you know what, that has nothing to do with this year as does anything our past teams have done(or not done). Steubenville and Sheridan both brought their games to the table against Dover and we won both. That's what happened THIS YEAR!

So now Dover moves on to week 13 to face Marlington and the rest of you stay behind. That's how it works, that's how your team did THIS YEAR!
Now these Dover boys get to play in the Region 11 championship and they deserve EVERY DAMN PLAY!!!

Thinthickbigred;559027 wrote:by far ...LOL...cmon man.......How bout the teams you lost to .....Bet we would beat Sheridan ..But then we will have to wait till next year ..

You couldn't make it out of the first round how are you going to beat anyone ?
Just keep think about next year because that all you got!!
ONE AND DONE!!!!!!!!!!

Spread All Day;558670 wrote:Ursuline is. Oh and Dover will find out who Mooney is too. If they get there.

I don't think finding out "who Mooney/Ursuline is" is the question....I think the question is where are they from?

fish82;559018 wrote:In D5, yes, they most certainly are.

Ursuline would win any division in the state. Besides MAYBE D1

Cmon Crimson I know that was a slight against us when you said that was the best team by far you beat....Be real..... just be real

Mr. Football;559344 wrote:You couldn't make it out of the first round how are you going to beat anyone ?
Just keep think about next year because that all you got!!
ONE AND DONE!!!!!!!!!!

cant win it every year but atleast we have memories of winning it ....It hurts doesnt it ...LOL.......We will be back ..We are already talking football ..In a few weeks you will go onto basketball or womans volleyball and guess what we will be thinking football.... We lost but next time we wont ..

Ashland Arrows!

Thinthickbigred;559844 wrote:cant win it every year but atleast we have memories of winning it ....It hurts doesnt it ...LOL.......We will be back ..We are already talking football ..In a few weeks you will go onto basketball or womans volleyball and guess what we will be thinking football.... We lost but next time we wont ..

Yeah... We probably will after football season because our basketball team is good as well!

Seems there's a big difference in perspective here and that's OK - we're both getting what we want.

Some relish the record and realize great pride in how many wins their team can accumulate over the years.
Some seek their satisfaction from what the youth of their community can achieve be it football, basketball or, yes, women's volleyball.

You are absolutely right Thin - I'm into football until we've played our last game of the season and then I'll put it away until next season because it's not about the game, it's about the kids! Afterward, I'll be at nearly every boy's basketball game (no doubt as we pursue another ECOL title and a satisfying tourney run), I'll probably take in a couple women's BB games and then watch some baseball.

And you know - I wouldn't have it any other way.
I know a lot of these kids and their families and I'll not spend a second wondering who we might get to transfer in to play football for us next year - THEY"RE ALREADY HERE!

Crimson and Gray Hair;560058 wrote:Seems there's a big difference in perspective here and that's OK - we're both getting what we want.

Some relish the record and realize great pride in how many wins their team can accumulate over the years.
Some seek their satisfaction from what the youth of their community can achieve be it football, basketball or, yes, women's volleyball.

You are absolutely right Thin - I'm into football until we've played our last game of the season and then I'll put it away until next season because it's not about the game, it's about the kids! Afterward, I'll be at nearly every boy's basketball game (no doubt as we pursue another ECOL title and a satisfying tourney run), I'll probably take in a couple women's BB games and then watch some baseball.

And you know - I wouldn't have it any other way.
I know a lot of these kids and their families and I'll not spend a second wondering who we might get to transfer in to play football for us next year - THEY"RE ALREADY HERE!

WELL SAID!

Spread All Day;559678 wrote:Ursuline would win any division in the state. Besides MAYBE D1

SO WHAT!

That statement carries as much relevance to high school sport as Ohio State boasting they can beat Heidelberg.

Ursuline isn't a high school football program in any capacity of what high school sports is, or should be, about. Like Mooney and similar cohorts, Ursuline is more like a 'professional' amalgam of talented high school age athletes from a large geographic area assembled to win games and raise money for the program - and nothing more. Had they any capacity for introspection, even the jaded Irish faithful could see actuality.

The Yankees win baseball titles year over year only because they have the means to buy the best players. You do the same thing, just using a different currency! Yeah, I know, it's legal within the rules set by OHSAA but it's outside the spirit of high school sport.

Let Dover cherry-pick the cream from the top football talent in Tuscarawas and surrounding counties and we'd beat everyone in the state as well - SO WHAT! Nothing but hollow victories. We've all heard the rhetoric; "stop living in the past", "live with it, this is what HS football is about today", "everyone does it" - kinda like the neighbor's dog that craps in your yard; you may have to live with it, but everyone knows where the stink comes from. You think everyone envies your success? Think again.

The day Dover's coaching staff, AD and administration decide it's time to import players so they can win more games is the day I cancel my season tickets (and I like my seats!).

skank;557449 wrote:I believe you'll find that out next saturday night.

Avatar bet?

Spread All Day;559678 wrote:Ursuline would win any division in the state. Besides MAYBE D1

Sure thing, dude. :rolleyes:

Marlington.

fish82;562367 wrote:Sure thing, dude. :rolleyes:

Fish have you seen the Irish play this year?


and for what its worth Drew P and his top 50 have Ursuline at #2

If this thread had any real steam it would give a multitude of choices ...such as Lakewood StEds and several others even Marlington ..I know this guy was just happy and wanted to toot but may I suggest you open a poll question that has ten playoff contenders and lets see what the voters think ..Just saying

fish82;562367 wrote:Sure thing, dude. :rolleyes:

I would put them against anyone in the state

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bases_loaded;563359 wrote:I would put them against anyone in the state

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I've already said they could probably hold their own against a lot of teams in a one-off game. My response was to the suggestion that they'd "win any division in the state," including possibly D1. D2 would be a 50/50 shot at best, and there's no way they'd run a 5-game gauntlet and win a D1 title. I'd go as far as to say that their only remote shot at a D1 regional title would be in Region 2.

thereddragin;563099 wrote:Fish have you seen the Irish play this year?

Yes. I watched the SVSM game and have seen tape on Mooney and St. Chuck.

See this thread needs to be restarted ....It could be a good topic ,if not for the heading..

Thinthickbigred;563555 wrote:See this thread needs to be restarted ....It could be a good topic ,if not for the heading..

Looks like a point of clarification is needed.

The poll at the top of this thread is a decoration, a mere splash of bling if you like. It seemed obvious to me it was not intended to elicit any serious discussion as to who is, or is not, the ‘real deal’! The only serious motivation for me in starting the thread was in response to a few posters who adamantly contended Dover had no chance against Sheridan because, in their estimation, Sheridan was “the real deal”. If anything, a Big Red fan should have been incensed by those comments as they implied that Steubenville was not the ‘real deal’. I may add I don’t think these posters were even Sheridan fans, but more likely just Dover ‘haters’ if I may borrow that much over used cliché.

It seems to me that none of the polls on bulletin boards such as OC should be taken as anything more than an interesting diversion. We get a cut little button we can press to express our approval, disapproval, satisfaction, or whatever but the results don’t really mean anything. We’re a captive and very opinionated audience and most of what’s said is based on much emotion and little fact.

If anyone seriously took umbrage with the title you have my most sincere apologies.

Perhaps it is a good thread in spite of the title!

Nice work on the word cliche. My phone wont put the lil hat on mine. Great thread btw but I've come to expect greatness when Dover is involved

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