Cleveland Buck
Posts: 5,126
Nov 7, 2010 9:20pm
ptown_trojans_1;549500 wrote:Wrong, Going unbeaten is so hard these days, and with a win of ACC possible champ VT, Boise would be more deserving.
Going unbeaten isn't hard when you play Boise State's schedule. I know Ohio State would be undefeated if they played Virginia Tech, Oregon State, and 10 mid majors.
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Nov 7, 2010 9:30pm
Cleveland Buck;549505 wrote:Going unbeaten isn't hard when you play Boise State's schedule. I know Ohio State would be undefeated if they played Virginia Tech, Oregon State, and 10 mid majors.
You don't know that. OSU could have easily lost to VT here in DC at the start of the year.
Going unbeaten is the hardest thing to do, which is why only a few (3-4 at the most) schools accomplish it every year. Doing that, is more than OSU can say. Besides, what is OSU's biggest victory? Miami? I'd say VT is more impressive. And the rest of OSU's schedule has been a joke this year.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Nov 7, 2010 9:32pm
ptown_trojans_1;549521 wrote:You don't know that. OSU could have easily lost to VT here in DC at the start of the year.
Going unbeaten is the hardest thing to do, which is why only a few (3-4 at the most) schools accomplish it every year. Doing that, is more than OSU can say. Besides, what is OSU's biggest victory? Miami? I'd say VT is more impressive. And the rest of OSU's schedule has been a joke this year.
If a team losses to a 1-AA team, you can not consider it a good win. It doesn't matter what that team does the rest of the year. They lost to a 1-AA team.
Not saying that the Miami win is all that great anymore.
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Nov 7, 2010 9:34pm
ptown_trojans_1;549521 wrote:You don't know that. OSU could have easily lost to VT here in DC at the start of the year.
Going unbeaten is the hardest thing to do, which is why only a few (3-4 at the most) schools accomplish it every year. Doing that, is more than OSU can say. Besides, what is OSU's biggest victory? Miami? I'd say VT is more impressive. And the rest of OSU's schedule has been a joke this year.
The argument isn't really about going undefeated as much as it is about depth/quality of opponents players faced. You can't really compare the MWC/WAC to any of the AQ's. That's just my thought, but I realize you don't agree.
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ZombieKiller
Posts: 817
Nov 7, 2010 9:39pm
Ohio State doesn't deserve to be in a BCS bowl game over Stanford or Boise State. Ohio State hasn't beat one good team all season. Boise State has a win over probably ACC Champ Virginia Tech.
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Nov 7, 2010 9:45pm
ZombieKiller;549542 wrote:Ohio State doesn't deserve to be in a BCS bowl game over Stanford or Boise State. Ohio State hasn't beat one good team all season. Boise State has a win over probably ACC Champ Virginia Tech.
Ohio State is what's at the end of every rainbow, a pot-o-gold.
Too fucking bad for you.
End of Line
Posts: 6,867
Nov 7, 2010 9:46pm
If Ohio State wins out, they will be in a BCS bowl for one reason (and Yes, I'm a Buckeyes fan) it will be, because of the amount of money Ohio State can generate.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Nov 7, 2010 9:47pm
I still think Ohio State is the best team in the country. With that said, if both Oregon and Auburn lose, Ohio State should make the title game, and if I were the other team, I probably wouldn't even bother showing up.
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ZombieKiller
Posts: 817
Nov 7, 2010 9:51pm
sleeper;549563 wrote:I still think Ohio State is the best team in the country. With that said, if both Oregon and Auburn lose, Ohio State should make the title game, and if I were the other team, I probably wouldn't even bother showing up.
the best team in the country? that's a joke.
Ty Webb
Posts: 2,798
Nov 7, 2010 9:52pm
You know...I've tried to avoid sleeper as much as I can,but sleeper....
You can't be this fucking stupid can you?
You can't be this fucking stupid can you?
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Nov 7, 2010 9:55pm
Bish Fight!
darbypitcher22
Posts: 8,000
Nov 7, 2010 10:12pm
Its not a matter of who's deserving, at that point its who's fan base is going to travel the best and bring in the most $$$ to the economy during the time of the game.... therefore...
OSU > Boise
OSU > Boise
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Al Bundy
Posts: 4,180
Nov 7, 2010 10:22pm
ytownfootball;549497 wrote:Oh if they both win out Wiscy is Rose bowl bound by virtue of hth, but OSU might sneak in as an at large...well they will, too much money not to bring them in.
Actually, there's been much speculation that Boise will be left out.
If OSU, Wisc, and MSU all win out, head to head doesn't apply since they didn't all play each other. The second tiebreaker is overall record (they would all be the same). The third tiebreaker would be BCS rankings.
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Al Bundy
Posts: 4,180
Nov 7, 2010 10:25pm
Ty Webb;549574 wrote:You know...I've tried to avoid sleeper as much as I can,but sleeper....
You can't be this fucking stupid can you?
Pot meet kettle.
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ZombieKiller
Posts: 817
Nov 7, 2010 10:34pm
darbypitcher22;549615 wrote:Its not a matter of who's deserving, at that point its who's fan base is going to travel the best and bring in the most $$$ to the economy during the time of the game.... therefore...
OSU > Boise
talent wise
Boise > OSU
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Nov 7, 2010 10:39pm
ZombieKiller;549661 wrote:talent wise
Boise > OSU
Depth wise...
OSU>>>>>>>>>Boise
That's the point
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ZombieKiller
Posts: 817
Nov 7, 2010 10:40pm
ytownfootball;549670 wrote:Depth wise...
OSU>>>>>>>>>Boise
That's the point
better shot at a national title
Boise State >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ohio State
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Nov 7, 2010 10:43pm
ZombieKiller;549673 wrote:better shot at being left out of the BCS entirely
Boise State >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ohio State
Fixed.
Cleveland Buck
Posts: 5,126
Nov 7, 2010 11:36pm
For those of you who need help understanding the difference between the WAC and big boy football.
Nonconference Records
vs. FBS AQ Conferences
Big Ten 7-5, .583
WAC 4-9, .308
vs. FBS Non AQ Conferences
Big Ten 19-2, .905
WAC 9-8, .529
If you want to size up the quality of Boise's conference competition, you can take out their wins from the above records and see the rest of the conference has gone 2-9 this season against AQ teams, and 7-8 against the other non AQ FBS conferences.
Nonconference Records
vs. FBS AQ Conferences
Big Ten 7-5, .583
WAC 4-9, .308
vs. FBS Non AQ Conferences
Big Ten 19-2, .905
WAC 9-8, .529
If you want to size up the quality of Boise's conference competition, you can take out their wins from the above records and see the rest of the conference has gone 2-9 this season against AQ teams, and 7-8 against the other non AQ FBS conferences.
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cats gone wild
Posts: 2,651
Nov 7, 2010 11:54pm
No they wouldnt. Undefeated team who won a BCS game last year who brings back the whole team is WAY more deserving then a one loss team who might end up with one win over a team who finishes ranked.Cleveland Buck;549496 wrote:An 11-1 Ohio State would be more deserving than an undefeated Boise State.
I thought OSU basically plays 10 mid-majors?Cleveland Buck;549505 wrote: I know Ohio State would be undefeated if they played Virginia Tech, Oregon State, and 10 mid majors.
Cleveland Buck
Posts: 5,126
Nov 7, 2010 11:56pm
You would think that, and we all know how bright you are.cats gone wild;549746 wrote: I thought OSU basically plays 10 mid-majors?
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Nov 8, 2010 12:19am
It's starting to look more and more like Boise or TCU will play for the title. The 1-loss teams are starting to become weaker and weaker...but who knows.
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Nov 8, 2010 12:29am
just has fail all over it...cats gone wild;549746 wrote:No they wouldnt. Undefeated team who won a BCS game last year who brings back the whole team is WAY more deserving then a one loss team who might end up with one win over a team who finishes ranked.
I thought OSU basically plays 10 mid-majors?
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cats gone wild
Posts: 2,651
Nov 8, 2010 12:40am
ytownfootball;549759 wrote:just has fail all over it...
Oh really? Hmmm, I think you might want to check your sources. Boise was undefeated last year and beat TCU and brought back 21 out of 22 starters.
Nice FAIL by you.
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cats gone wild
Posts: 2,651
Nov 8, 2010 12:42am
Quote Originally Posted by cats gone wild View Post
No they wouldnt. Undefeated team who won a BCS game last year who brings back the whole team is WAY more deserving then a one loss team who might end up with one win over a team who finishes ranked.
Nice FAIL by you.
No they wouldnt. Undefeated team who won a BCS game last year who brings back the whole team is WAY more deserving then a one loss team who might end up with one win over a team who finishes ranked.
Oh really? Hmmm, I think you might want to check your sources. Boise was undefeated last year and beat TCU and brought back 21 out of 22 starters.ytownfootball;549759 wrote:just has fail all over it...
Nice FAIL by you.