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Mar 4, 2011 10:37 AM
I haven't read this whole page, so not sure if this has been talked about. But if you're the heat and your up 20 in the third quarter, why didn't they let Howard get his or foul him instead of doubling him and giving up wide open 3's. Because once Orlando gets going from behind the arc, no lead is safe.
Mar 4, 2011 10:37am
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Mar 4, 2011 10:42 AM
Heat versus top 4 of each conference are 4-9 this year:
@ Boston L 88-80
vs Boston L 112-107
@ Boston L 85-82

vs Orlando W 96-70
@ Orlando L 104-95
@ Orlando W 104-100
vs Orlando L 99-96

@ Chicago L 99-96
@ Chicago L 93-89

vs Dallas L 98-96
@ Dallas L 106-95

@ LA Lakers W 96-80

@ OKC W 108-103

In their next seven games they play San Antonio twice, Chicago, the Lakers, and Oklahoma City once. Will be interesting to see how they come out of that stretch.
Mar 4, 2011 10:42am
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Mar 4, 2011 11:08 AM
thedynasty1998;699216 wrote:Wow. You really don't understand basketball do you? Maybe it will be simpler for you to understand if you just start of thinking of Lebron as the PG and Bibby as the SG. Guess that's the easiest way to explain it to you.

lol at you for trying to call someone out for not knowing basketball.
Mar 4, 2011 11:08am
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Mar 4, 2011 11:55 AM
cant blame d-wade on this one, atleast he scored in the 4th

Mar 4, 2011 11:55am
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Mar 4, 2011 11:57 AM
Mar 4, 2011 11:57am
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Mar 4, 2011 12:17 PM
Bron had a nice 4th quarter, gotta give the guy credit

Cavs have more wins vs the top 6 teams in the league than the Heat
Mar 4, 2011 12:17pm
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Mar 4, 2011 12:24 PM
osu45804;699342 wrote:


haha good one but who is the 1/2 man?
Mar 4, 2011 12:24pm
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Mar 4, 2011 12:29 PM
Skyhook79;699372 wrote:haha good one but who is the 1/2 man?

No shit. It could be any one of them with Bosh's performance, Wade pussying out and letting Lebron take over HIS team or Lebron for settling for jumpers instead of playing to his strength.
Mar 4, 2011 12:29pm
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Mar 4, 2011 12:37 PM
KR1245;699358 wrote: Cavs have more wins vs the top 6 teams in the league than the Heat

No shit? Thats a helluva stat. I just happened to watch the second half, it was shocking. What a comeback.
Mar 4, 2011 12:37pm
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Mar 4, 2011 1:08 PM
I told people this would be lbj's team. I have a feeling wade misses the feeling of carry people on his back. Lets see if he becomes the alpha make in clutch time.
Mar 4, 2011 1:08pm
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BR1986FB

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Mar 4, 2011 1:11 PM
jpake1;699450 wrote:I told people this would be lbj's team. I have a feeling wade misses the feeling of carry people on his back.

And this is a major part of their issue, IMO. Wade was a leader with a fire in his belly. Lebron couldn't lead a fart out of his own asshole. He proved that in Cleveland.
Mar 4, 2011 1:11pm
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Mar 4, 2011 1:14 PM
So you are comparing Cleveland to Lebron's asshole and the Cavs to a fart?? Interesting thought.
Mar 4, 2011 1:14pm
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Mar 4, 2011 1:18 PM
BR1986FB;699455 wrote:And this is a major part of their issue, IMO. Wade was a leader with a fire in his belly. Lebron couldn't lead a fart out of his own asshole. He proved that in Cleveland.

Complete ignorance. Lebron led, what has proved to be a very poor team, to the best record in the NBA, and a NBA Finals. Quit acting like he's accomplished absolutely nothing in his career.
Mar 4, 2011 1:18pm
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BR1986FB

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Mar 4, 2011 1:18 PM
karen lotz;699461 wrote:So you are comparing Cleveland to Lebron's asshole and the Cavs to a fart?? Interesting thought.

No. I'm saying Lebron's not a leader. PERIOD. A "leader" doesn't have to leave a city to join forces with other stars to chase a ring. Kobe & Magic never left LA (and before ANYONE says ANYTHING about Kobe, I think we ALL know his intentions were to never leave LA). Bird stayed in Boston. Same with Jordan in Chi-Town. Pretty obvious that Lebron's a follower and doesn't like to have the weight of the world on his shoulders. Some thrive on that. He doesn't.
Mar 4, 2011 1:18pm
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Mar 4, 2011 1:20 PM
Yes all those stars stayed put.


And played along side numerous HOF'ers
Mar 4, 2011 1:20pm
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Mar 4, 2011 1:21 PM
thedynasty1998;699470 wrote:Complete ignorance. Lebron led, what has proved to be a very poor team, to the best record in the NBA, and a NBA Finals. Quit acting like he's accomplished absolutely nothing in his career.

There's a difference between being a "mega talented player", which Lebron IS, and a "leader." Lebron James is NOT a leader. You can try to say he "lead by example with his play" which I'd agree with but as far as being a VERBAL, BOISTEROUS LEADER? No chance in Hell.

And BTW...FUCK YOU PASSIVE AGGRESSIVE TROLL BITCH!
Mar 4, 2011 1:21pm
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Mar 4, 2011 1:23 PM
BR1986FB;699471 wrote:No. I'm saying Lebron's not a leader. PERIOD. A "leader" doesn't have to leave a city to join forces with other stars to chase a ring. Kobe & Magic never left LA (and before ANYONE says ANYTHING about Kobe, I think we ALL know his intentions were to never leave LA). Bird stayed in Boston. Same with Jordan in Chi-Town. Pretty obvious that Lebron's a follower and doesn't like to have the weight of the world on his shoulders. Some thrive on that. He doesn't.

Good to know you know how Lebron thinks. We get it, you don't like him. But quit diminishing what he's accomplished. He is absolutely a leader. Maybe he's not clutch, and that is debatable, but whether he's a leader is not up for debate.

Kobe, Magic, Jordan and Bird didn't have to leave their cities, because they all played with other hall of famers. But yea, keep reaching.
Mar 4, 2011 1:23pm
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Mar 4, 2011 1:25 PM
BR1986FB;699476 wrote:And BTW...FUCK YOU PASSIVE AGGRESSIVE TROLL BITCH!

Stay classy! We have a nice debate going on in this thread and you resort to this? Good to know you handle debates at the level of an 8th grader.
Mar 4, 2011 1:25pm
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Mar 4, 2011 1:26 PM
thedynasty1998;699479 wrote:Good to know you know how Lebron thinks. We get it, you don't like him. But quit diminishing what he's accomplished. He is absolutely a leader. Maybe he's not clutch, and that is debatable, but whether he's a leader is not up for debate.

Kobe, Magic, Jordan and Bird didn't have to leave their cities, because they all played with other hall of famers. But yea, keep reaching.


well...according to sq_crazies Lebron was playing with 2 HOF'ers in Cleveland. :)
Mar 4, 2011 1:26pm
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BR1986FB

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Mar 4, 2011 1:27 PM
thedynasty1998;699479 wrote:Good to know you know how Lebron thinks. We get it, you don't like him. But quit diminishing what he's accomplished. He is absolutely a leader. Maybe he's not clutch, and that is debatable, but whether he's a leader is not up for debate.

Kobe, Magic, Jordan and Bird didn't have to leave their cities, because they all played with other hall of famers. But yea, keep reaching.

Not diminishing his athletic talent but I'm certainly not gonna suck his dick like you will. He's NOT a leader. He's a follower. He followed Bosh to South Beach.

Big difference with Magic, Jordan & Bird. Their teams DRAFTED most of those HOF players. They didn't team up/collude to "take their skills" to another city.
Mar 4, 2011 1:27pm
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BR1986FB

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Mar 4, 2011 1:29 PM
thedynasty1998;699482 wrote:Stay classy! We have a nice debate going on in this thread and you resort to this? Good to know you handle debates at the level of an 8th grader.


"A nice debate?" You're gonna call me "ignorant", being the troll bitch that you are, and not expect it to come back to you BOTH barrels? It's the SECOND time you've tried your passive aggressive shit on me today. You might grab your ankles for others but I don't.
Mar 4, 2011 1:29pm
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Mar 4, 2011 1:31 PM
BR1986FB;699485 wrote:Not diminishing his athletic talent but I'm certainly not gonna suck his dick like you will. He's NOT a leader. He's a follower. He followed Bosh to South Beach.

Big difference with Magic, Jordan & Bird. Their teams DRAFTED most of those HOF players. They didn't team up/collude to "take their skills" to another city.

There definitely is a difference. When Bird was drafted by Boston they sucked worse than the Cavs did. When Magic went to the Lakers they couldn't do jack in the Playoffs.
The Bulls before Jordan? anyone remember any players (without the aid of google) besides maybe Norm Van Lier?
Mar 4, 2011 1:31pm
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Mar 4, 2011 1:43 PM
Skyhook79;699493 wrote:There definitely is a difference. When Bird was drafted by Boston they sucked worse than the Cavs did. When Magic went to the Lakers they couldn't do jack in the Playoffs.
The Bulls before Jordan? anyone remember any players (without the aid of google) besides maybe Norm Van Lier?


How good were the Cavs before they drafted LeBron? I don't think they were a playoff team considering they had the number one overall pick.
Mar 4, 2011 1:43pm
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Mar 4, 2011 1:45 PM
BR1986FB;699485 wrote:Not diminishing his athletic talent but I'm certainly not gonna suck his dick like you will. He's NOT a leader. He's a follower. He followed Bosh to South Beach.

Big difference with Magic, Jordan & Bird. Their teams DRAFTED most of those HOF players. They didn't team up/collude to "take their skills" to another city.
And the Cavs couldn't draft those HOF players because they were drafting towards the end of the first round most of the time LeBron was there. Look at who they drafted. I understand you hate LeBron, but still try to be realistic about your thoughts. LeBron had to go to another city because there was no chance anyone was going to join him in Cleveland. I'm sorry you can't understand that.
Mar 4, 2011 1:45pm