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Oct 21, 2010 3:21 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5711336

Division One (South?):
UCLA
Southern California
Arizona
Arizona State
Utah
Colorado

Division Two (North?):
Stanford
California
Oregon
Oregon State
Washington
Washington State

Pretty good competitive balance, I'd say.
Oct 21, 2010 3:21pm
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Oct 21, 2010 3:37 PM
Why do you say USC won't be happy?? They will play they other 2 California schools each year.
Oct 21, 2010 3:37pm
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Oct 21, 2010 3:39 PM
karen lotz;527615 wrote:Why do you say USC won't be happy?? They will play they other 2 California schools each year.

Where did you see this? The article linked doesn't say anything about them keeping their annual games with Cal and Stanford.

Edit: Nevermind: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/huskies/2013221073_pacnews22.html
Oct 21, 2010 3:39pm
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Oct 21, 2010 3:39 PM
Another interesting thing is the conference championship game will be hosted by the team with the better conference record. If there is a tie, they would go to who has higher BCS ranking. As of now this is only for the inaugural championship game but could be the plan moving forward as well.
Oct 21, 2010 3:39pm
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Oct 21, 2010 3:40 PM
gorocks99;527620 wrote:Where did you see this? The article linked doesn't say anything about them keeping their annual games with Cal and Stanford.


ah, its all over twitter. I will find one and quote it.
Oct 21, 2010 3:40pm
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Oct 21, 2010 3:53 PM
karen lotz;527622 wrote:Another interesting thing is the conference championship game will be hosted by the team with the better conference record. If there is a tie, they would go to who has higher BCS ranking. As of now this is only for the inaugural championship game but could be the plan moving forward as well.

That is interesting, but when you think about it, what neutral site could they use? There really is no neutral site out there. The most logical place would be the Rose Bowl, but that's UCLA's home stadium. Then you have the LA Coliseum, but that's also USC's home stadium. I guess you could do someplace like San Diego or San Francisco, but those aren't great stadiums. University of Phoenix stadium in Arizona seems like the best neutral site. The biggest problem for the Pac-12 doing a neutral site game is that the teams are so far spread out. In the Big Ten, SEC, and Big XII the teams are close enough together that a neutral site in the middle allows fans from anywhere to drive there. This means people don't have to make plans weeks in advance, which they can't since you usually won't clinch your division until the final game or the week before. If Washington won the west division the final game of the season and then had to play in Arizona it's be nearly impossible for most Washington fans to go. Doing it at the better team's home stadium will sell more tickets.
Oct 21, 2010 3:53pm
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Oct 21, 2010 3:57 PM
For sure the reason they are doing it that way is to be sure the stadium is filled. I don't think they want to have championship games with attendance similar to the ACC. One site that has been discussed is Las Vegas. They need to upgrade facilities or build a new stadium, but it would seem like a logical place for it.
Oct 21, 2010 3:57pm
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Oct 21, 2010 4:05 PM
karen lotz;527641 wrote:For sure the reason they are doing it that way is to be sure the stadium is filled. I don't think they want to have championship games with attendance similar to the ACC. One site that has been discussed is Las Vegas. They need to upgrade facilities or build a new stadium, but it would seem like a logical place for it.

I assume that the only football stadium in Vegas is UNLV's? It seems to me that since Vegas will never get an NFL team and since UNLV is unlikely to fill a bigger stadium that there's no chance of the game ever being there. Although Vegas is pretty central to these teams. Outside of Vegas I guess that San Francisco is probably the most central location with a stadium that's big enough.
Oct 21, 2010 4:05pm
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Oct 21, 2010 4:19 PM
Pac 10 Title sites:

Arizona Cardinals Stadium
Seattle Seahawks Stadium
San Fransisco Stadium
San Diego Stadium
Oakland Stadium...

I would say those are better choices then playing it at one of the team home field.
Oct 21, 2010 4:19pm
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Oct 23, 2010 10:52 PM
Tiger, even with playing at non-collegiate stadium, one of the teams could still have a distinct home-city advantage - and the league would have to shell out the rental fee for the facility. If the "visiting" team still is going to get the green weenie, they might as well keep the game on campus and just give the visitors 50% of the school allocation.
Oct 23, 2010 10:52pm