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Should steroids be allowed and even encouraged in professional sports?

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ernest_t_bass

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Oct 12, 2010 8:50 AM
No, not steraroids, and not just the MILB. Yes, I got this from VaGayGay.


http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5656825

Should steroids be allowed in professional sports? According to Brent Musberger, steroids work and have no negative effects under proper supervision. Wouldn't this just open the door more to steroids in high school and college??
Oct 12, 2010 8:50am
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derek bomar

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Oct 12, 2010 12:05 PM
If they are street legal I see no reason they should be banned from athletes
Oct 12, 2010 12:05pm
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bo shemmy3337

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Oct 12, 2010 12:29 PM
Because it is cheating and bad for you. Also these men are supposed to be role models. that comes with making tons of money.
Oct 12, 2010 12:29pm
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Oct 12, 2010 12:34 PM
bo shemmy3337;517313 wrote:Because it is cheating and bad for you. Also these men are supposed to be role models. that comes with making tons of money.

Making "tons of money" does not come with being a role model. GTFO!
Oct 12, 2010 12:34pm
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Oct 12, 2010 1:10 PM
-Society-;517319 wrote:Making "tons of money" does not come with being a role model. GTFO!

Agreed. If it did, wouldn't a guy like Warren Buffet be every kids role model?
Oct 12, 2010 1:10pm
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Oct 12, 2010 1:28 PM
justincredible;517356 wrote:Agreed. If it did, wouldn't a guy like Warren Buffet be every kids role model?
Dude has always been one of my role models.

But no, steroids should not be allowed and encouraged. It then turns all sports into F1 racing duels of who has the most money to throw at research.
Oct 12, 2010 1:28pm
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bo shemmy3337

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Oct 12, 2010 4:28 PM
-Society-;517319 wrote:Making "tons of money" does not come with being a role model. GTFO!

I agree but to make tons of money in sports, it is expected of you to be a good role model. (dress codes and personal conduct policies)
Oct 12, 2010 4:28pm
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Oct 12, 2010 4:47 PM
bo shemmy3337;517605 wrote:I agree but to make tons of money in sports, it is expected of you to be a good role model. (dress codes and personal conduct policies)

You either agree or you don't. Which is it? Or is it just those in sports? Oh, those dress codes and personal conduct policies? What are you trying to say?
Oct 12, 2010 4:47pm
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MontyBrunswick

Oct 12, 2010 5:18 PM
Steroids are perfectly fine for you if you do them in moderation with the guidance of a doctor.

I read somewhere that a good portion of steroid users are pharmacists/doctors.

Granted, that may be because they have easier access to it...but they probably know what they're doing too.
Oct 12, 2010 5:18pm
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Oct 12, 2010 6:28 PM
dlazz;517647 wrote:Steroids are perfectly fine for you if you do them in moderation with the guidance of a doctor.

I read somewhere that a good portion of steroid users are pharmacists/doctors.

Granted, that may be because they have easier access to it...but they probably know what they're doing too.

Oct 12, 2010 6:28pm
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Oct 12, 2010 8:06 PM
Steroids are for megadouches only.
Oct 12, 2010 8:06pm
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mella

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Oct 12, 2010 8:19 PM
Steroids and HGH should be allowed in professional sports at medicinal levels. Now what are medicinal levels? I have no idea. These players are given pain shots and intervenous liquids so they can perform better so I have no problem with the professional leagues determining "safe" levels of steroids and HGH so the athletes can recover faster and better from the abuse their bodies take. I am not saying go juice up in the back of the gym with Canseco. A doctor should oversee the injections under very controlled and supervised guidelines.
Oct 12, 2010 8:19pm
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Oct 12, 2010 8:23 PM
It still would result in an uneven playing field as people would still abuse the steroids beyond the guidelines for an advantage and it'd be much harder to identify those cheaters.

As I said before it also removes the level playing field away from those who cannot afford a specialized doctor and expensive steroids.

There is no room for steroids in legitimate athletic sports. Work harder in the gym or on your technique, not on finding a better injection.
Oct 12, 2010 8:23pm
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mella

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Oct 12, 2010 8:37 PM
My thought was that the professional teams would be supplying the "juice" and the HGH so the playing field would be level. I think there might be some room in professional sports for a "safe" level of steroids and HGH, especially in injury rehab and postseason recovery. Vitamins, creatine, and other supplements allow athletes to work out longer and harder so why not a little "juice". I am sure they could monitor "appropriate" levels of testosterone just like they do now. They just have to decide on what that level is.
Oct 12, 2010 8:37pm
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Oct 12, 2010 8:44 PM
-Society-;517319 wrote:Making "tons of money" does not come with being a role model. GTFO!

Whether they like it or not, superstar athletes are role models to many kids. I don't see how you could dispute that.
Oct 12, 2010 8:44pm
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Oct 12, 2010 9:25 PM
se-alum;517814 wrote:Whether they like it or not, superstar athletes are role models to many kids. I don't see how you could dispute that.

That says more about parents and other family members than athletes. Pretty sad.
Oct 12, 2010 9:25pm
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Oct 12, 2010 9:43 PM
ernest needs to stop making threads for the rest of his life
Oct 12, 2010 9:43pm
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ernest_t_bass

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Oct 12, 2010 9:51 PM
DeyDurkie5;517876 wrote:ernest needs to stop making threads for the rest of his life

Lul catz
Oct 12, 2010 9:51pm
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Oct 12, 2010 10:13 PM
tk421;517862 wrote:That says more about parents and other family members than athletes. Pretty sad.
I don't disagree, but it doesn't change the fact that they are role models.
Oct 12, 2010 10:13pm
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Oct 13, 2010 12:06 AM
tk421;517862 wrote:That says more about parents and other family members than athletes. Pretty sad.
Having an athlete as a role model isn't bad. I mean, they shouldn't necessarily be your only or primary role model but there are plenty of athletes who work their asses off and also help out a lot of people through various charities, etc.
Oct 13, 2010 12:06am
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Oct 13, 2010 2:24 AM
We'll all benefit down the road from ahtletes treating their bodies like test tubes.

I do believe the steroids and other stuff today are much safer than a few decades before. But not enough time has passed to make that call, especially with new things constantly coming on the market. Any time you start messing with body chemistry like that it's bad news.

Also bad news on the HS level because if it's legal in pros, then more college athletes will start using and sooner. Would become a major problem in HS with kids with the financial resources having a large advantage. I don't think a parent wants their son playing football against 300-lb juicers.
Oct 13, 2010 2:24am
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Oct 13, 2010 8:19 AM
ccrunner609;517804 wrote:the day that we can buy HGH like a vitamin, I am the first in line.

Amen brother. With all of these restoration clinics popping up, with medical monitoring, you see 60-something's walking around with 6-8 pack abs. Stallone is a perfect example.

As we grow older, HGH & testosterone (as males) decreases at a significant rate. These clinics monitor your health and give you doses to restore your body to "normal" levels. They aren't designed to get people all jacked up like pro bodybuilders.

When I first got into bodybuilding back in the late 80's I joined my first commercial bodybuilding gym which was owned by a former Mr Eastern USA. Granted, this dude was a roid head but he used to tell us that before HGH was made synthetically that these nutjob bodybuilders would go out into the graveyard to dig up corpses to extract the pituitary gland. Guess the only way to get it was straight from the tap. Now how effective that was, who knows.

By no means am I an "advocate" for the use but they do have benefits. A fine line has to be drawn between "use" and "abuse" though.
Oct 13, 2010 8:19am
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Oct 13, 2010 8:31 PM
dlazz;517647 wrote:Steroids are perfectly fine for you if you do them in moderation with the guidance of a doctor.

I read somewhere that a good portion of steroid users are pharmacists/doctors.

Granted, that may be because they have easier access to it...but they probably know what they're doing too.

Agreed. The big revolt stemmed from the overuse of AAS in the 80's and early 90's. Intelligent/moderate use can be beneficial though long term use is still sketchy
Oct 13, 2010 8:31pm
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Oct 13, 2010 9:10 PM
BR1986FB;518074 wrote:By no means am I an "advocate" for the use but they do have benefits. A fine line has to be drawn between "use" and "abuse" though.

^^^This.

Sadly, it's kind of a self-fulfilling propechy, but if you look at the NFL I think steroids and HgH are becoming a necessity to make it through a season and prolong careers. Plus, if it can improve the quality of living and health into retirement (by helping to prevent as much wear on the body through the years) it's something the NFL needs to seriously consider.

Now where the dilemma comes is more Hgh and 'roids means bigger and stronger bodies colliding which sort of defeats the purpose. And guys are always going to cheat any medically supervised and approved program. If a guy is comfortable with 2 pills a day or whatever now, with 2 pills a day in an approved program a number of them will start taking 4 a day.

The average NFL career is 3-4 years. Most of these guys make league minimum and then they have to find a real job. Granted, that's till @ $1.2-$1.5M over 3 years, but there's an obviously strong incentive to do everything you can to hang on for as long as you can. I'm not sure I'd be worried about long-term effects if I only used for 2-3 years. The marginal clean player is out of the league in 3 years with a gross of $1.5M....The marginal player on 'roids might hang around 6-8 years and pull-in $3-$5M. You think "wanting to be a role model" has any real impact on that decision?
Oct 13, 2010 9:10pm
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Oct 13, 2010 11:58 PM
Colbert put it pretty well on his show tonight. I'll get the clip when I can.
Oct 13, 2010 11:58pm