Glory Days;475601 wrote:well except for that one chick on there who called him a "sexy mother fucker" before letting him have it. i thought that was kinda odd.

I did too. I can't believe that she would actually demean herself by thinking those words, much less type them publicly.
Personally, I don't find his picture sexy at all, and that's trying very hard to not think about his mentality. I can't do it, it's too wrapped up together in my mind.
I'll be kind though in saying that perhaps she's just a nitwit.

CenterBHSFan;475625 wrote:I did too. I can't believe that she would actually demean herself by thinking those words, much less type them publicly.
Personally, I don't find his picture sexy at all, and that's trying very hard to not think about his mentality. I can't do it, it's too wrapped up together in my mind.
I'll be kind though in saying that perhaps she's just a nitwit.

maybe she'll be one of those women who writes to inmates in prison and falls in love with them.

How arrogant....if she didn't want to be with him, she didn't deserve to live.

I've met some wonderfully nice MMA fighters...truly polite and respectful people. This guy was obviously on the other end of that spectrum...and unfortunately, that's the stereotype that MMA'ers get stuck with....as aggressive meatheads who solve their problems with their fists.

Fly4Fun;475425 wrote:I always shake my head when I see these threads either on here or the old huddle. It's this community exercise where everyone groups up and says terrible things that they think are okay because other people agree.

There is no reason to hope that people should rape or kill him... that's a perverted justice system you are wishing for. There is a reason cruel and unusual punishment isn't allowed. Yes, it is terrible what this guy did. But he has certain rights even though he took away the right to life of another person.

I believe in a eye for a eye. This person should feel the same pain as she felt when she died.

Whenever I see stories like this I always wonder what went wrong in his head to make him want to kill her instead of just letting her go? There was a murder suicide in my town a little over a month ago, a husband killed his wife then himself. I knew both people, and they never seemed like the type that would be involved with something like that. Obviously I was wrong, but i wonder what was the straw that broke the camel's back?

I have been pissed off at my wife before but never thought about beating her to death.

THE4RINGZ;475679 wrote:
I have been pissed off at my wife before but never thought about beating her to death.

So you just wanted to beat her?

Well, no.

I can't even beat my dog when I'm pissed at him let alone my girlfriend. How bad do you have to beat someone to kill them? I mean last month we saw the video of the guy be ejected and slide across an interstate at 100 MPH and live!

bases_loaded;475757 wrote:I can't even beat my dog when I'm pissed at him let alone my girlfriend. How bad do you have to beat someone to kill them? I mean last month we saw the video of the guy be ejected and slide across an interstate at 100 MPH and live!

In some instances, as we all know, one "lucky" shot is all it takes. But this is not the case here. He just kept on beating her so much and so bad that her body cannot be shown.

As much as I believe in and advocate going through the proper judicial system, I honestly cannot place blame on or look down on or even argue too much with those who scream for an eye for an eye. Anybody with any sense of empathy could understand it. Doesn't mean I think that's the way to do things, though.

What do we do with dogs when they go bad? Can you rehabilitate a dog? Does a dog have emotional self-control?
No.
So what do we do? We put them down.

In society, there's people out there that are just like dogs. They do not have any emotional self-control, they cannot be rehabilitated. In those instances, I'm for putting them down, too. Through the legal system.

I hope this guy gets what he deserves one way or the other. POS

Is there a murderer who isn't a coward? Just because this is a woman makes it no different or senseless than any other murder that occurs multiple times per day. I'm not being insincere to this young woman's murder, just questioning the reason behind the hate towards this guy. Shouldn't it be directed towards anyone who commits this crime?

SnotBubbles;475848 wrote:Is there a murderer who isn't a coward? Just because this is a woman makes it no different or senseless than any other murder that occurs multiple times per day. I'm not being insincere to this young woman's murder, just questioning the reason behind the hate towards this guy. Shouldn't it be directed towards anyone who commits this crime?

How do you know we don't feel the same way about every murderer?

Hang this fuck in the town square.

SnotBubbles;475848 wrote:Is there a murderer who isn't a coward? Just because this is a woman makes it no different or senseless than any other murder that occurs multiple times per day. I'm not being insincere to this young woman's murder, just questioning the reason behind the hate towards this guy. Shouldn't it be directed towards anyone who commits this crime?

I hate all murderers.

There is a difference between pulling a trigger and killing someone and beating them to death. There is a separation between persons with a weapon. This guy beat the woman he "loved" until he no longer felt her alive and then ran away.

Sick. Twisted. COWARD

Yeah maybe I missed it or whatever, but whatever happened with his friend who agreed to drive him to Cleveland so he could run?

CenterBHSFan;476086 wrote:Yeah maybe I missed it or whatever, but whatever happened with his friend who agreed to drive him to Cleveland so he could run?

What is a payee of social security benefits?
http://www.timesreporter.com/features/x90330443/No-bond-set-in-murder-case-public-defender-to-be-named

bases_loaded;476293 wrote:What is a payee of social security benefits?
http://www.timesreporter.com/features/x90330443/No-bond-set-in-murder-case-public-defender-to-be-named

That is somebody designated to collect benefits for the person who receives them. For instance, if "Clown" was in a vegetative state, or labeled somewhere close to it, his friend would be the person to receive the money and be responsible for taking care of any expenditures in Clowns stead.

IMO, this person is complicit and needs to be charged accordingly.

Also, why is Clown getting social security? If he's fit and smart enough to fight, he's fit enough to get his own money (?)
WTF???

Fly4Fun;475425 wrote:Yes, it is terrible what this guy did. But he has certain rights even though he took away the right to life of another person.

He only has rights until he's convicted of a 1st degree murder. Then he is incarcerated and has NO rights. Therefore, killing him would not be "illegal" in the term that you and I know as in civilian life. And quite frankly, it's a deserved punishment. If you're convicted of a horrible murder and/or rape of someone and there is ample evidence to convict you (i.e. no doubt in the jury's mind because of overwhelming physical evidence) OR one or more eyewitnesses, you should be killed within a month IN THE SAME MANNER you killed someone in . You say that "cruel and unusual punishment" is not allowed...but someone killing him would be no more cruel or unusual than what he did to her. This country needs to take a look at the definition of JUSTICE in the dictionary, as many people seem to have forgotten what it means. Justice is NOT committing one of the worst possible crimes you can commit and getting off by sitting in a jail cell to live out possibly 50-60 or more years of your LIFE. If you TAKE A LIFE, and you are conclusively convicted, YOUR LIFE SHOULD BE TAKEN. That's not cruel OR unusual, that's EVEN and that's the idea of JUSTICE.

*And as an edit, of course I'm speaking about killing someone such as a murder, not something like an automobile accident or some other accidental death.

Red_Skin_Pride;476314 wrote:He only has rights until he's convicted of a 1st degree murder. Then he is incarcerated and has NO rights. Therefore, killing him would not be "illegal" in the term that you and I know as in civilian life. And quite frankly, it's a deserved punishment. If you're convicted of a horrible murder and/or rape of someone and there is ample evidence to convict you (i.e. no doubt in the jury's mind because of overwhelming physical evidence) OR one or more eyewitnesses, you should be killed within a month IN THE SAME MANNER you killed someone in . You say that "cruel and unusual punishment" is not allowed...but someone killing him would be no more cruel or unusual than what he did to her. This country needs to take a look at the definition of JUSTICE in the dictionary, as many people seem to have forgotten what it means. Justice is NOT committing one of the worst possible crimes you can commit and getting off by sitting in a jail cell to live out possibly 50-60 or more years of your LIFE. If you TAKE A LIFE, and you are conclusively convicted, YOUR LIFE SHOULD BE TAKEN. That's not cruel OR unusual, that's EVEN and that's the idea of JUSTICE.

*And as an edit, of course I'm speaking about killing someone such as a murder, not something like an automobile accident or some other accidental death.

Too bad all that garbage you spouted off is incorrect... both legally speaking and morally according to most modern theories of morality... eye for an eye isn't considered modern nor appropriate.

His 9-1-1 call is on the webpage I linked above. He called as he was running away.

Red_Skin_Pride;476314 wrote:He only has rights until he's convicted of a 1st degree murder. Then he is incarcerated and has NO rights. Therefore, killing him would not be "illegal" in the term that you and I know as in civilian life. And quite frankly, it's a deserved punishment. If you're convicted of a horrible murder and/or rape of someone and there is ample evidence to convict you (i.e. no doubt in the jury's mind because of overwhelming physical evidence) OR one or more eyewitnesses, you should be killed within a month IN THE SAME MANNER you killed someone in . You say that "cruel and unusual punishment" is not allowed...but someone killing him would be no more cruel or unusual than what he did to her. This country needs to take a look at the definition of JUSTICE in the dictionary, as many people seem to have forgotten what it means. Justice is NOT committing one of the worst possible crimes you can commit and getting off by sitting in a jail cell to live out possibly 50-60 or more years of your LIFE. If you TAKE A LIFE, and you are conclusively convicted, YOUR LIFE SHOULD BE TAKEN. That's not cruel OR unusual, that's EVEN and that's the idea of JUSTICE.

*And as an edit, of course I'm speaking about killing someone such as a murder, not something like an automobile accident or some other accidental death.

That's absolutelly wrong.

But I guess the people wrongly put to death for crimes they never committed deserved it and that the people who were proved innocent after spending many years in prison should have just been killed within a month.

And you might not be talking about automobile accidents but other people might. What about drunk drivers who cause accidents that result in a death. Should they be smashed with a car?

That line of thinking is very archaic.

Every case can be looked at differently. You can't just say all murderers must die. In this case, a guy who collects social security and then uses it to bar hop and pay for MMA training beat a 100 lbs woman to death with his hands. I can not even begin to imagine what type of person it takes to beat someone to death with your hands.

Sadly, I just saw this link on the right hand side of the page... this is not the first time he beat her.

Beating wasn’t first - New Philadelphia, OH - The Times-Reporter

yikes!

Fucking makes me sick.

This bastard will sit in prison for the rest of his life, on our dime. The legal system that was set up to protect the rights of Americans is a damn joke. If you commit a crime, you have all the rights in the world. If you're the victim, no one talks about you. Bullshit. My family just got ANOTHER appeal in the mail today, so we'll be heading back to court soon. What a joke.

Trueblue23;476607 wrote:Fucking makes me sick.

This bastard will sit in prison for the rest of his life, on our dime. The legal system that was set up to protect the rights of Americans is a damn joke. If you commit a crime, you have all the rights in the world. If you're the victim, no one talks about you. Bullshit. My family just got ANOTHER appeal in the mail today, so we'll be heading back to court soon. What a joke.

Are you saying that when you "commit" a crime you don't deserve the rights granted to you by the Constitution? What about the "victims". Are they granted more rights than others? Are you fucking stupid?