karen lotz;482015 wrote:Yes I understand that but it also depends on what kind of offense you are facing. It isn't a good sign if you safeties are making a lot of tackles if you are facing a traditional running game. RichRod's offense spreads the field horizontally as well as vertically and they didn't really run the ball right up the middle where the line and LB's were waiting. With the amount of double screens and short passes along with Robinson getting to the outside, DB's are going to be needed to make tackles.

Point taken.

DickRod's offense works against undersized, slower, less talented defenses as one would encounter in the Big East and admittedly in about half of the Big Ten. But against well coached, athletic defensive teams his glorified HS trickeration will be exposed and absolutely destroyed. Anyone watching Sat. could see that (if) Crist had played the entire game ND wins by 2 - maybe 3 TDs. Unfortunately that did not happen but everyone please STFU about Ratard Robinson winning the Heisman, he will not even finish the season once scUM starts playing Iowa, Wis, PSU and MSU. Most likely he will not be the QB when scUM shows up in Cols due to injury.

Blah blah blah.

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nice comeback Webfoot. My ex-wife always did the blah-blah-blah thing before I murde...I mean divorced her.

i'd like to note that pat white was only hit a handful of times in his short NFL career and was knocked out with a season ending concussion for one of them. he was tackled in the Big East, but he was rarely hit.

Why are we even discussing this shit on an OSU/Miami thread?

Where is LHS homie!? Stuck in SEC land?

karen lotz;482015 wrote:.... It isn't a good sign if you safeties are making a lot of tackles if you are facing a traditional running game. ...

Generally that's true.

I would, however, remind you that in a 3-4 the safeties have read force responsibilities on running plays.

If an OLB reads an outside step by the end lineman the same side safety has C gap responsibility. If the read is a down block on the end of the line the safety has force responsibility outside.

A C-gap or sweep team may have many tackles made by DB when the defense is properly executed.

OSU's star is more of a LB than a DB.

Get in a pissing match all you want with definitions of other teams, but at OSU both Hines last year and Moeller this year are LB's over DB's.

It's not uncommon for a safety to be a hybrid LB/DB...especially strong safeties.

Con_Alma;482286 wrote:It's not uncommon for a safety to be a hybrid LB/DB...especially strong safeties.

That's fine, but at OSU they are more of a OLB than any other position.

That's even better. Do you think I am disagreeing with you?

Con_Alma;482294 wrote:That's even better. Do you think I am disagreeing with you?

No I don't.

Just noticed that Barnett was hurt. I was at the game and wondering why Johnson was in because Barnett had been playing fairly well with some big hits. Luckily we have a month for him to heal.

We are clearly talking about two different things.

Glad I better understand now. Sorry about the confusion.

The star IS a hybrid position, but they are also the nickelback, which by definition makes them a db. Essentially osu goes into the nickel package with "Troy polamalu"playing the nickelback position. No one has ever called him a lb and his assignments are often quite similar to osu star position.

LJ;482349 wrote:The star IS a hybrid position, but they are also the nickelback, which by definition makes them a db. Essentially osu goes into the nickel package with "Troy polamalu"playing the nickelback position. No one has ever called him a lb and his assignments are often quite similar to osu star position.

This.