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Reds Vs. Giants: Game 1

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Aug 23, 2010 10:51 PM
This guy behind home has been inconsistent from batter to batter.

Regardless, Volquez looked like shit from the first pitch.
Aug 23, 2010 10:51pm
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mhs95_06

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Aug 23, 2010 10:51 PM
The umps failure to call a batter out on a check swing that went too far costs the Reds two outs and two bases! The strike-em-out, throw-em-out double play to end the inning was negated by the 1st base ump's failure to call it.

Do you think the fact that because the home plate ump did not call strike three as he did not call a swing, and therefore the 2nd base ump did not call the runner out when he was tagged, would have made a good argument for SF to neutralize calling it a double play because the runner thought it was ball four, was the reason the first base ump called it no swing? He took the easy way out to avoid a rhubarb with the home team!
Aug 23, 2010 10:51pm
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Aug 23, 2010 10:54 PM
mhs95_06;460093 wrote:The umps failure to call a batter out on a check swing that went too far costs the Reds two outs and two bases! The strike-em-out, throw-em-out double play to end the inning was negated by the 1st base ump's failure to call it.

Do you think the fact that because the home plate ump did not call strike three as he did not call a swing, and therefore the 2nd base ump did not call the runner out when he was tagged, would have made a good argument for SF to neutralize calling it a double play because the runner thought it was ball four, was the reason the first base ump called it no swing? He took the easy way out to avoid a rhubarb with the home team!

First base ump had nothing to do with it, unfortunately. No one, Ramon or Laz(or however you spell it) didn't appeal to 1st. If I'm Ramon I'm screaming and yelling for an appeal on that. He was very obvious on the replay that he went around and I think it would have been called that way by the 1st base ump.
Aug 23, 2010 10:54pm
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mhs95_06

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Aug 23, 2010 10:55 PM
Looks like the Reds' "Dominican Dandies" starting pitchers may not be up to the task of the pressure of the final weeks of the stretch drive to the playoffs.
Aug 23, 2010 10:55pm
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Aug 23, 2010 10:58 PM
Yeah, thats all I need to see. We still are having problems with the guys who have been in these kinda games down the stretch before.
Aug 23, 2010 10:58pm
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Aug 23, 2010 11:19 PM
Aubrey Huff not getting much reward for his defnesive efforts in the 3rd. Reds get a bad break when Votto's drive bounces over the wall with 2 outs taking a certain RBI away as Nix certainly would have scored from first if it weren't for the book rule double.
Aug 23, 2010 11:19pm
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mhs95_06

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Aug 23, 2010 11:21 PM
Cain didn't get Rolen for the key out in the 3rd, and the lead is cut to 5-2!
Aug 23, 2010 11:21pm
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Aug 23, 2010 11:27 PM
That's bad news! Heisey in for Nix straight up with no pitching change to start the bottom of the 3rd! Must have been some kind of baserunning injury for Nix!
Aug 23, 2010 11:27pm
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mhs95_06

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Aug 23, 2010 11:32 PM
And the Giants get the 2 runs right back on another drive to the CF fence, this one by Torres that goes over the fence for a 2 run HR.
Aug 23, 2010 11:32pm
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Aug 23, 2010 11:36 PM
Um....he was safe at first?
Aug 23, 2010 11:36pm
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mhs95_06

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Aug 23, 2010 11:45 PM
wildcats20;460098 wrote:First base ump had nothing to do with it, unfortunately. No one, Ramon or Laz(or however you spell it) didn't appeal to 1st. If I'm Ramon I'm screaming and yelling for an appeal on that. He was very obvious on the replay that he went around and I think it would have been called that way by the 1st base ump.

Maybe they have a rule that expressly prohibits a change in the call on an appeal if it creates a dilemma later in the same play on a situation where no call was needed based on the call that was wanted to be appealed.
Aug 23, 2010 11:45pm
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Aug 23, 2010 11:48 PM
Doubt it.
Aug 23, 2010 11:48pm
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Aug 24, 2010 12:02 AM
wildcats20;460138 wrote:Doubt it.

Maybe it is an unwritten rule that the umpires have a quiet unofficial agreement among themselves that they won't do it.
Aug 24, 2010 12:02am
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Aug 24, 2010 12:09 AM
Regardless, it was a dumb ass decision by Ramon and Laz to no appeal the play. It was clearly a swing and it should have just been called a strike at the plate.
Aug 24, 2010 12:09am
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Aug 24, 2010 12:14 AM
Is that another hamate bone problem, this time for Edmonds? That's two Reds who have left the first game in SF due to injury. Dusty didn't want to bring back Cabrera in SF because he thought SF was prone to injuries, and it looks like he was right! Even thought the weather tonight is unseasonably warm for SF.
Aug 24, 2010 12:14am
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Aug 24, 2010 12:17 AM
Cain has 95 pitches. How good is the Giants bullpen sans Brian "Beach Boy" Wilson?
Aug 24, 2010 12:17am
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Aug 24, 2010 12:22 AM
Edmonds is a strained right oblique. And Nix is a sprained left ankle.
Aug 24, 2010 12:22am
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mhs95_06

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Aug 24, 2010 12:32 AM
Stubbs has had good performance hitting coming in for an injured or ejected hitter with two strikes! He came in for Votto and crushed it for a double the last Reds home game, and tonight came in for Edmonds and crushed it for an out to LF.
Aug 24, 2010 12:32am
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mhs95_06

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Aug 24, 2010 12:34 AM
Did Votto call Bray off that bunt? He then bobbled it and almost didn't even get the out at first.
Aug 24, 2010 12:34am
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Aug 24, 2010 12:35 AM
Is Joe not doing the game tonight on ESPN2??
Aug 24, 2010 12:35am
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mhs95_06

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Aug 24, 2010 12:42 AM
Seems awful strange that the Giants would send Cain out to start the 8th with a 5 run lead after throwing 113 pitches over the first 7 innings.
Aug 24, 2010 12:42am
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Aug 24, 2010 12:44 AM
I was thinking the same thing mhs. But it got through it pretty quickly.
Aug 24, 2010 12:44am
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Aug 24, 2010 12:46 AM
Ugh...I'm done watching this.
Aug 24, 2010 12:46am
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Aug 24, 2010 12:49 AM
wildcats20;460165 wrote:I was thinking the same thing mhs. But it got through it pretty quickly.

Why wear him out any more in the midst of the stretch drive to the playoffs.
Aug 24, 2010 12:49am
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Aug 24, 2010 12:54 AM
So just flipped back to the game and he really missed that call?!?!?

Pablo slid through the base lifted his left arm up, NEVER HIT THE BASE with any part of his body until after Cairo tagged him on the hip. With the ump standing there looking directly at the play and he calls him safe.

I realize the game is probably over, but good God; it wasn't even close.
Aug 24, 2010 12:54am