thedynasty1998;448195 wrote:I think we are confusing depth with loaded. Obviously they are deep. And to respond to my stalker, no one gives a shit how many stars you have once you step onto campus. Will Berry become a star? Maybe, and I surely hope so. But at this point, OSU is loaded with a bunch of average RB's, for OSU's standards.

Last year's stats:
Saine: 145 attempts, 739 yards, 4.8 avg
Herron: 153, 600, 3.9
Hall: 48, 248, 5.2

There were 6 RB's in the Big 10 who rushed for more yardage, and that's just not something that you expect at OSU. You always expect to have a leading rusher. Now I do think that the running game is highly effective part because of Pryor's ability, but the ONE piece I think this team might be missing is that stud RB who will get you 100 yards every single game.

devil1197;448350 wrote:But no RB will get enough carries per game to get 100 yards consistently.

OSU was #3 in the B10 last year in rushing offense, which became dominant the last half of the season.

Let's look at the B10 returning leading rushers. All of those players had 200 carries.
Clay: 287 attempts for 1,517 yards and 18 TD's
Royster: 205 attempts for 1,169 yards and 6 TD's
Bolden: 200 attempts for 935 yards and 9 TD's

Ohio State Buckeyes rushing (correct stats, not the those above):
Saine: 145 attempts 739 yards 5.1 avd 4 TD's
Herron: 153 attempts 600 yards 3.9 avg 7 TD's
Hall: 48 attempts 248 yards 5.2 avg
Pryor: 162 attempts 779 yards 4.8 avg 7 TD's

Now, let's look at Wisconsin, Purdue, and PSU. See how many carries their back up RB's had along with their QB's.

Wisconsin: Ball (98 attempts), Brown (66 attempts), Tolzien (54 attempts mostly sacks for a whopping 8 yards)
Penn State: Green (74 attempts) and Clark (84 attempts)
Purude: Taylor (70 attempts) and Elliott (87 attempts)

So the top three rushers in the B10 have no other players on their team with over 100 attempts. Meanwhile, OSU has THREE guys with well over 100 attempts rushing with two guys pushing close to the 800 yard mark. If OSU focused all the carries on one RB, we would have the 100 ypg consistent runner, but we are deep at RB with very good talent.

I agree that Herron should look out, if Berry doesn't tweak his hammy last year before the USC game he would have got some reps and then who knows.

devil1197;448350 wrote:But no RB will get enough carries per game to get 100 yards consistently.

OSU was #3 in the B10 last year in rushing offense, which became dominant the last half of the season.

Let's look at the B10 returning leading rushers. All of those players had 200 carries.
Clay: 287 attempts for 1,517 yards and 18 TD's
Royster: 205 attempts for 1,169 yards and 6 TD's
Bolden: 200 attempts for 935 yards and 9 TD's

Ohio State Buckeyes rushing (correct stats, not the those above):
Saine: 145 attempts 739 yards 5.1 avd 4 TD's
Herron: 153 attempts 600 yards 3.9 avg 7 TD's
Hall: 48 attempts 248 yards 5.2 avg
Pryor: 162 attempts 779 yards 4.8 avg 7 TD's

Now, let's look at Wisconsin, Purdue, and PSU. See how many carries their back up RB's had along with their QB's.

Wisconsin: Ball (98 attempts), Brown (66 attempts), Tolzien (54 attempts mostly sacks for a whopping 8 yards)
Penn State: Green (74 attempts) and Clark (84 attempts)
Purude: Taylor (70 attempts) and Elliott (87 attempts)

So the top three rushers in the B10 have no other players on their team with over 100 attempts. Meanwhile, OSU has THREE guys with well over 100 attempts rushing with two guys pushing close to the 800 yard mark. If OSU focused all the carries on one RB, we would have the 100 ypg consistent runner, but we are deep at RB with very good talent.

I agree that Herron should look out, if Berry doesn't tweak his hammy last year before the USC game he would have got some reps and then who knows.

thedynasty1998;448358 wrote:Good post. Maybe it is beneficial the way OSU runs the ball, as it keeps teams off balance and makes them prepare for more than just one rusher. I guess I'm just used to Clarett, Pittman, Beanie where you had that #1 guy. And I don't think OSU loses a game because they can't run the ball. They will be successful running the ball regardless of who gets the carries.

I really am just as excited to see Hall get more carries as I am Berry. I definitely think both of these guys push Herron out of the way, but I wonder if either is good enough to cut into Saine's carries?

Commander of Awesome;448362 wrote:I am worried about Saine's health as he seems to always be nicked up. His injuries could mean more PT for Hall and Berry.

devil1197;448366 wrote:Saine will be fine.

He showed us last year how good he can be when healthy. He is our legitimate #1, don't care what anyone else says imo. He is very good dual threat RB, as he has great hands out of the back field.

Right now I would say:
1) Saine
2) Herron/Berry right behind him
3) Hall

thedynasty1998;448323 wrote:This is the last time I will respond to you, but that proves nothing. I never said I wanted to meet to fight you, I just stated another fact.

Stay off my facebook page, and if you talk about my fiance again, I will make threats, and those will be clear.

like_that;448473 wrote:LMAO you call him a stalker, yet you send him threats. Way to get your panties in a bunch over an anonymous poster you don't even know. The funny thing is you are more concerned about him than he is concerned about you. The way you cry like a baby is a joke. If you can't handle anonymous internet posters calling you out for horrible arguments, then you shouldn't be posting here.

Automatik;448608 wrote:Can you children read? Or do you enjoy acting like little bitches?

karen lotz;448614 wrote:Is Pryor wearing a brace on knee he had surgery on? I'm not sure on how invasive/serious the surgery was but could it be a mental thing he has to get over before he feels completely comfortable with it?

like_that;449029 wrote:True Pryor story:

Walks into some party, and the first thing he says when he enters the house is "Who here wants to fuck me?" Some girl approaches him, and they go upstairs to a bedroom.


True story.

Big Gain;449072 wrote:Herron is tough for his size and was asked to do most of his running inside the tackles. For someone 5-10 200 a 3.9 average IS NOT bad.

TheMightyGators;449113 wrote:Correct. It's awful.

Mohican00;449158 wrote:To his credit he did not play in 3 game last year (Indiana, Purdue, Minnesota).

thedynasty1998;449238 wrote:That doesn't affect yards per carry.