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Aug 10, 2010 12:44 PM
lhslep134;447284 wrote:Then you really don't know anything about Tressel.

It took the Rose Bowl (and a knee injury) for Tressel to trust Pryor. Once Pryor earned his trust, the playbook opened up and Pryor deservingly threw the ball a lot.

That's not going to change this year. Pryor has matured, something that's extremely obvious, and I think you're going to see the playbook remain open.

The only time Pryor will not throw more than 10 times is if weather will not permit him too.

Completley agree. Pryor has earned Tressel trust at this point in his career. Tress isn't stupid. He knows thist eam can compete for a national title. And he also knows that to be able to do that, he will have to let Pryor loose this year. I highly doubt we will see a game were there are fewer then 15 pass attempts. If so, it will only be a game or two. If OSU is going to compete with the likes of a team like Bama .....if that times comes at end of season, Pryor will need to have the play book open the entire season to prepare for a game like that. And I fully expect to see this happen, as it did in the Rose Bowl.
Aug 10, 2010 12:44pm
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Aug 10, 2010 12:58 PM
centralbucksfan;447384 wrote:I highly doubt we will see a game were there are fewer then 15 pass attempts. If so, it will only be a game or two.

That's what I was saying. Only maybe a couple games. And if OSU plays in a national championship, it will be as much to do with their defense as Pryor. Look at Alabama last year in the NC. McElroy only threw 11 passes because they built a lead and Saban trusted his defense (but then again OSU doesn't have Ingram).

I fully expect OSU to come out against Marshall with Pryor throwing 25-30 times though.
Aug 10, 2010 12:58pm
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Aug 10, 2010 1:05 PM
thedynasty1998;447395 wrote:That's what I was saying. Only maybe a couple games. And if OSU plays in a national championship, it will be as much to do with their defense as Pryor. Look at Alabama last year in the NC. McElroy only threw 11 passes because they built a lead and Saban trusted his defense (but then again OSU doesn't have Ingram).

I fully expect OSU to come out against Marshall with Pryor throwing 25-30 times though.

Aug 10, 2010 1:05pm
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Aug 10, 2010 1:25 PM
devil1197;447315 wrote:No, our offensive line just got healthy at the tail end of the season and they finally showed how good they could be. There was a reason we continually ran for 200 plus a game once we finally got our OL unit into place.

The healthy OL not only created running lanes but also gave Pryor more time in the pocket.

That, and the fact that we made a commitment to the run game with our running backs. Instead of giving each back 12 carries we really committed to running the ball with them.
Aug 10, 2010 1:25pm
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Aug 10, 2010 2:24 PM
thedynasty1998;447395 wrote:That's what I was saying. Only maybe a couple games. And if OSU plays in a national championship, it will be as much to do with their defense as Pryor. Look at Alabama last year in the NC. McElroy only threw 11 passes because they built a lead and Saban trusted his defense (but then again OSU doesn't have Ingram).

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Bama had and awesome defense to rely on. (although it almost backfired on them in that title game). I think the OSU defense will be good...but not what Bama defense was last year. Hope I am wrong, and they do have a dominant defense. But gotta see some young/new players step up first before I buy into it. And, as mentioned, OSU doesn't have a workhorse like Ingram either. If Pryor isn't throwing, he will be running. If OSU is going to make the title game, and if they want to win it....it will be on Pryor shoulders this year. The OSU offense is going to have to step up. And with what they have returning everywhere, I fully expect them to do so. I'll be highly disappointed if this isn't one of the better offenses OSU has had in some time.
Aug 10, 2010 2:24pm
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Aug 10, 2010 2:31 PM
centralbucksfan;447497 wrote:Bama had and awesome defense to rely on. (although it almost backfired on them in that title game). I think the OSU defense will be good...but not what Bama defense was last year. Hope I am wrong, and they do have a dominant defense. But gotta see some young/new players step up first before I buy into it. And, as mentioned, OSU doesn't have a workhorse like Ingram either. If Pryor isn't throwing, he will be running. If OSU is going to make the title game, and if they want to win it....it will be on Pryor shoulders this year. The OSU offense is going to have to step up. And with what they have returning everywhere, I fully expect them to do so. I'll be highly disappointed if this isn't one of the better offenses OSU has had in some time.

I agree with that. But I also think people are overestimating OSU's schedule.

The tough games OSU will play this year:
Miami - Wisconsin showed how to beat them, and although Wisconsin was effective passing, it was the running game and defense that won it
Wisconsin/Iowa - Basically molds of each other. Neither team scores in bunches. If OSU gets an early lead in these games, they control the game with clock management

So, although Pryor will have to make plays in each of those three games, those are really the only three games they will even need Pryor. OSU could play with Guiton at QB the rest of the schedule and likely run the table.
Aug 10, 2010 2:31pm
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Aug 10, 2010 4:45 PM
I look at Tressell's history and I can see him letting TP throw 30 times in a game, I can also see him throwing 5 times if that is what he thinks he needs to do to win.
Aug 10, 2010 4:45pm
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Aug 10, 2010 9:42 PM
Many of the people on this thread like the progress TP is making, comparing it somewhat to Troy Smith's progress his years at OSU.

Was Troy Smith ready for the NFL after his junior year?

Does Troy Smith still play in the NFL?
Aug 10, 2010 9:42pm
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Aug 10, 2010 10:41 PM
devil1197;447349 wrote:OSU is set up to play any type of football, their loaded at every single position on offense.

I know they have a lot coming back, but weren't they extremely average, last year, offensively?
Aug 10, 2010 10:41pm
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Aug 10, 2010 11:20 PM
No, they are loaded. Just ask any buckeye fan.
Aug 10, 2010 11:20pm
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Aug 10, 2010 11:31 PM
Theyre deep at RB....but i wouldnt call it loaded.
Aug 10, 2010 11:31pm
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Aug 10, 2010 11:32 PM
Hb31187;448028 wrote:Theyre deep at RB....but i wouldnt call it loaded.


LOADED
Aug 10, 2010 11:32pm
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Aug 11, 2010 12:08 AM
Evidently, Carlos Hyde was very impressive in the first day of camp. Rod Smith has not practiced yet, and is guaranteed to redshirt.

It will be interesting to see who is getting the carries come week 8 or so. Hopefully, Tressel plays the best player, regardless of year.
Aug 11, 2010 12:08am
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Aug 11, 2010 2:49 AM
Uhm 5 4* Running backs (Saine, Herron, Hyde, Berry, Smith) and 1 3* back (Hall, who proved to be very solid last year).


Sounds pretty damn loaded to me.
Aug 11, 2010 2:49am
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Aug 11, 2010 4:44 AM
OH.... eh screw it, IO. I'm a one man show.
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Aug 11, 2010 7:22 AM
lhslep134;448084 wrote:Uhm 5 4* Running backs (Saine, Herron, Hyde, Berry, Smith) and 1 3* back (Hall, who proved to be very solid last year).


Sounds pretty damn loaded to me.
Saine had a decent year last year. Herron averaged 3.9 yards per carry last year, which isn't bad, it's flat out awful for a starting NCAA D1 running back. I haven't heard of the other guys. If they are any good, I would think Herron should be nervous.
Aug 11, 2010 7:22am
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Aug 11, 2010 7:46 AM
TheMightyGators;448100 wrote:Saine had a decent year last year. Herron averaged 3.9 yards per carry last year, which isn't bad, it's flat out awful for a starting NCAA D1 running back. I haven't heard of the other guys. If they are any good, I would think Herron should be nervous.

Herron should definitely be nervous. You're right, he was not impressive in the least last year. Two of the guys behind him (Hyde and Berry) are from the '09 class and had Florida offers. Smith will redshirt this year and Hall (a 4* on Rivals) was impressive in limited action last year as a freshman.
Aug 11, 2010 7:46am
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Aug 11, 2010 8:38 AM
TheMightyGators;447986 wrote:I know they have a lot coming back, but weren't they extremely average, last year, offensively?
Talent wise, yes they are loaded. That doesn't mean they will go out and blow the doors off of everyone. It all depends on coaching, execution, and Pryor.
Aug 11, 2010 8:38am
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Aug 11, 2010 8:46 AM
Automatik;448129 wrote:Talent wise, yes they are loaded. That doesn't mean they will go out and blow the doors off of everyone. It all depends on coaching, execution, and Pryor.

I think you're going to see more consistency on offense this year. Hopefully more touchdowns, but definitely a lot more flow to the offense and a lot less 3 and outs on the first possession. IMO I think Pryor has close to full reins of the offense and I personally trust that he's made strides as a quarterback and as a teammate just from what's transpired so far in camp.


I'm very very excited to watch this offense perform this year. Has the potential to be 2006esque in terms of excitement. Maybe not the big names, but definitely the big plays.
Aug 11, 2010 8:46am
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Aug 11, 2010 9:21 AM
OSU is hardly "loaded" in the backfield, at this point. They do have depth, but if you don't have a #1 guy, then I think it's hard to say you are loaded. OSU is used to a certain caliber of RB, one who is usually on NFL draft boards, and I just don't think you can say that about Saine and Herron.

However, I absolutely think they have enough to win every single game. I expect improved offensive line play and a more honest defense this year, which will open up more holes. I really hope one of the younger guys becomes the #2 because I just haven't seen anything from Herron that makes me believe there isn't someone else on the roster who can do more.
Aug 11, 2010 9:21am
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Aug 11, 2010 9:57 AM
thedynasty1998;448151 wrote:OSU is hardly "loaded" in the backfield.

Wrong. Berry (5 star recruit) cant even see the field because of Saine and Herron in front of him.
Aug 11, 2010 9:57am
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Aug 11, 2010 10:23 AM
I think we are confusing depth with loaded. Obviously they are deep. And to respond to my stalker, no one gives a shit how many stars you have once you step onto campus. Will Berry become a star? Maybe, and I surely hope so. But at this point, OSU is loaded with a bunch of average RB's, for OSU's standards.

Last year's stats:
Saine: 145 attempts, 739 yards, 4.8 avg
Herron: 153, 600, 3.9
Hall: 48, 248, 5.2

There were 6 RB's in the Big 10 who rushed for more yardage, and that's just not something that you expect at OSU. You always expect to have a leading rusher. Now I do think that the running game is highly effective part because of Pryor's ability, but the ONE piece I think this team might be missing is that stud RB who will get you 100 yards every single game.
Aug 11, 2010 10:23am
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Aug 11, 2010 10:27 AM
point taken,dynasty--and I also hope Berry pans out like we expect (hope) him to.
Aug 11, 2010 10:27am