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Youngstown Ursuline def. Ridgewood 48-6

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OPSAA

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Nov 30, 2009 1:51 AM
ff- To be the best you must beat the best...I agree. Give me this , can you see how private schools could manipulate the division system to give themselves the advantage of more athletes to choose from.
Nov 29, 2009 8:51pm
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newarkcatholicfan

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Nov 30, 2009 2:41 AM
There are more than a few private schools losing students as fast as some seem to gain them year in and year out.

Or at least gain the star athlete yearly.
Nov 29, 2009 9:41pm
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chs_football

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Nov 30, 2009 2:56 AM
Great year ridgewood... I guess coshocton countys football teams journey was meant to end here
Nov 29, 2009 9:56pm
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Al Bundy

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Nov 30, 2009 4:49 AM
OPSAA wrote: ff- To be the best you must beat the best...I agree. Give me this , can you see how private schools could manipulate the division system to give themselves the advantage of more athletes to choose from.
No private school is going to turn down students because many are struggling economically. All private schools wish they had enough kids to be D1, but they don't. Any school has the option of going to open enrollment if they choose too. Congrats to your team on winning the region, but you lost to a better team. Quit making excuses.
Nov 29, 2009 11:49pm
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Chuck U. Farley

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Nov 30, 2009 1:39 PM
Congrats WOOD! nothin to be ashamed of..best team in history Region 19 Champs! Beat the 3 2 ansd 1 seeds thats not to bad! AND LOST TO A PRIVATE SCHOOL THAT RECRUITS!! Good Season WOOD!!!!!
Nov 30, 2009 8:39am
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gyea36

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Nov 30, 2009 3:24 PM
Al Bundy, you hit the nail on the head. The majority of Catholic schools in the state are struggling big time financially, so they will take all the students they can. The idea of a Catholic school limiting enrollment to play in a certain division in football is absurd.
Nov 30, 2009 10:24am
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James "Boobie" Miles

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Nov 30, 2009 4:40 PM
okay... so tell me how odd it is Ursaline is 2 boys short of D4?? doesn't just happen by accident my friend...your idea is of them not is absurd
Nov 30, 2009 11:40am
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GoChiefs

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Nov 30, 2009 5:00 PM
I'm not going to pretend I know anything about Ursuline..b/c I don't..but the fact that they are only 2 boys short means nothing. Could be a coincidence. They aren't the only school that's on the borderline of changing divisions. You speculate that just b/c they are on the borderline..they are doing it on purpose just so they can be in a specific division? I think that sounds kinda absurd to me.
Nov 30, 2009 12:00pm
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Al Bundy

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Nov 30, 2009 5:40 PM
James "Boobie" Miles wrote: okay... so tell me how odd it is Ursaline is 2 boys short of D4?? doesn't just happen by accident my friend...your idea is of them not is absurd
Mooney is one boy over being D4. Did they just count wrong? You do know that the schools submit the numbers before the state establishes the division cut offs right? Are there any public schools that are 1 or 2 boys away from a higher division? Maybe they flunked 1 or 2 kids in 8th grade so they wouldn't be counted...lol. The idea that Ursuline turned down 2 or more kids at about $5,500 per kid to stay in D5 is insane. All schools (both private and public) are doing all they can to get kids for financial reasons.
Nov 30, 2009 12:40pm
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newarkcatholicfan

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Nov 30, 2009 5:51 PM
I do not think that everyone plays by the rules and I’m sure not everyone on this planet believes all schools are playing by the rules. Loopholes people, loopholes and I could almost think that some of the schools we are going to watch play this weekend is a genius when it comes to finding them and how to use them for a huge advantage.
Nov 30, 2009 12:51pm
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Al Bundy

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Nov 30, 2009 6:15 PM
newarkcatholicfan wrote: I do not think that everyone plays by the rules and I’m sure not everyone on this planet believes all schools are playing by the rules. Loopholes people, loopholes and I could almost think that some of the schools we are going to watch play this weekend is a genius when it comes to finding them and how to use them for a huge advantage.
Given the success of Newark Catholic in the playoffs, I always thought that it was due to hard work and building a program. I now know that they must have found loopholes to win all of those titles.
Nov 30, 2009 1:15pm
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newarkcatholicfan

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Nov 30, 2009 6:24 PM
I do not go there but I do know they are losing kids a lot or what seems to be a lot.
I am sure nc52 can give you info on this being he won a ring there.
Nov 30, 2009 1:24pm
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Al Bundy

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Nov 30, 2009 6:48 PM
newarkcatholicfan wrote: I do not go there but I do know they are losing kids a lot or what seems to be a lot.
I am sure nc52 can give you info on this being he won a ring there.
They have more titles than anyone playing this week, so if you think the teams this week are using loopholes, they must be using even more loopholes. Or maybe the teams that work the hardest all year long are the ones who are left.
Nov 30, 2009 1:48pm
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newarkcatholicfan

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Nov 30, 2009 6:53 PM
I was just throwing it out there.
I'm sure some will see it one way one another.
Makes for some good post.
Nov 30, 2009 1:53pm
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rwoodgen23dad

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Nov 30, 2009 10:45 PM
The Wood got beat no matter how we look at it or how much we don't like it. Truth is nothing can be done about on here. RW played hard all night long no matter what's said. We just need to keep doing what we're doing and in the future who knows what will happen! Congrats to the Wood on a phenominal season....and to Ursuline....Can't wait for next year!
Nov 30, 2009 5:45pm
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roy macavoy

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Dec 1, 2009 12:08 AM
i think everyone understands that coldwater is good, maybe the greatest public school of all time. We also know that you compete against great teams, we know. Why are other states dividing up public and private? Why are there as many private as public left, when there is a huge differential in the number participating?
Nov 30, 2009 7:08pm
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G_Callen

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Dec 2, 2009 2:26 AM
I just hope Notre Dame keeps losing and losing and losing!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dec 1, 2009 9:26pm
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heWASin

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Dec 2, 2009 12:57 PM
Ursuline would not have made the playoffs in Region 19.
Dec 2, 2009 7:57am
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James "Boobie" Miles

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Dec 2, 2009 2:28 PM
They need to start that private school championship and public championship like they do in PA
Dec 2, 2009 9:28am
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OPSAA

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Dec 2, 2009 9:34 PM
Totally agree Boobie, PA. is ahead of the curve. Don't look for Dan Ross to be the kind of leader to correct this issue. (How do you save the hens when the fox is already in the henhouse) . Maybe rubber chicken will have a solution.
Dec 2, 2009 4:34pm
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Jdawg88

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Dec 3, 2009 1:32 AM
heWASin wrote: Ursuline would not have made the playoffs in Region 19.
What have you been smokin?
Dec 2, 2009 8:32pm
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cb_09

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Dec 3, 2009 2:11 AM
Ursuline 17.8283 < Caldwell 17.9000

He's not smoking anything. He's just stating facts.
Dec 2, 2009 9:11pm
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hshoops

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Dec 3, 2009 2:13 AM
I've stated it before and I'll state it again.....the system is fair because the member schools say it is. Is it a level playing field?...............No way and anyone that has the least bit of common sense can't deny that.
Dec 2, 2009 9:13pm
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TDium

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Dec 3, 2009 3:48 AM
I graduated Ursuline in 1987. Am friends with current admin and teaching staff. I've said this at JJH. I'll say it here. Ursuline will take every student they can find -- provided they are academically eligible and will to embrace the expectations of the Ursuline community. I can't speak for any other private school in Ohio, but I can promise you that the growing enrollment is 10x more important than the division Ursuline competes in. That is fact that all this baseless mongering cannot undermine.

Since we never schedule DV teams in the regular season, why should OSHAA division matter so much to us we would turn away students to be DV? If you want to speculate, then at least try to gather fact. Here is fact: enrollment (increasing it) is the absolute priority at Ursuline, for reasons that have nothing to do with athletics. UHS would have been the 6 seed in R13. Honestly, complain about the points in R19, but the Ridgewood game speaks to skills. Ursuline would have done the same with any team in R19.
Dec 2, 2009 10:48pm
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Al Bundy

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Dec 3, 2009 4:17 AM
hshoops wrote: I've stated it before and I'll state it again.....the system is fair because the member schools say it is. Is it a level playing field?...............No way and anyone that has the least bit of common sense can't deny that.
It's so unfair. The teams that work the hardest, go the farthest in the playoffs. If you took the private schools out of the playoffs, do you really think that every public school would win the same number of championships? Some schools just do not put in the effort to build a solid program.
Dec 2, 2009 11:17pm