Former UFC fighter takes out woman beater in street brawl

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RelsonGracieBJJ
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Aug 5, 2010 9:58pm
I doubt it was Roger .. Fab1. Roger would not need a curb stomp to whoop on some coward like that.
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georgemc80
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Aug 5, 2010 9:59pm
The 27-year-old explained, "If that was my mom, if that was my sister, my spouse, anyone … I would’ve wanted someone to step in and do something about it."
Bingo...everything this guy did to this punk...everything and more is justifiable...I don't know how you can read this quote and not feel the same way I do...

Bravo Roger Huerta.
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Steel Valley Football
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Aug 5, 2010 11:10pm
If the black guy threatened Huerta then that changes things. But, if Huerta just went after him for revenge then he deserves to be put in jail for felonious assault. If that is the case, then Huerta broke the law and everyone applauding him for dishing this guy his "justice" are idiots.
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Aug 5, 2010 11:13pm
LIke that Fucking Black guy didn't break the law by hitting a woman? He deserved to be curbed Stomped.
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Steel Valley Football
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Aug 5, 2010 11:14pm
RelsonGracieBJJ;443249 wrote:LIke that Fucking Black guy didn't break the law by hitting a woman? He deserved to be curbed Stomped.
Not in this country he didn't. Take that shit down to Mexico where the other heathens live. You can cut his fuckin head off there if you want.
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Aug 5, 2010 11:16pm
So.. Hitting a woman is not breaking the law? I take it you voted for Obama?
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Steel Valley Football
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Aug 5, 2010 11:22pm
RelsonGracieBJJ;443254 wrote:So.. Hitting a woman is not breaking the law? I take it you voted for Obama?

What are you not getting buddy? Who the fuck says it's ok to lynch a guy on the street whenever you feel like he broke the law? What Heurta did was felonious assault. That's NOT HIS JOB.

No, thank you, I'm a republican and that's what's wrong with this country - nobody follows the rules anymore.
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Aug 5, 2010 11:27pm
Steel Valley Football;443263 wrote:What are you not getting buddy? Who the fuck says it's ok to lynch a guy on the street whenever you feel like he broke the law? What Heurta did was felonious assault. That's NOT HIS JOB.

No, thank you, I'm a republican and that's what's wrong with this country - nobody follows the rules anymore.

Cause that guy wouldve been caught? He wouldnt have gotten his justice. Justice is never served in this country for small shit like this. The guy squared up with Huerta, then the shirt came off and he ran.
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Aug 5, 2010 11:38pm
Laley23;443269 wrote:Cause that guy wouldve been caught? He wouldnt have gotten his justice. Justice is never served in this country for small shit like this. The guy squared up with Huerta, then the shirt came off and he ran.

You, like many here, are letting your emotions and opinions get in the way of the law. Your argument about whether he would be caught is speculation only.

What if another guy (Joe) in that crowd knew the black guy had also raped a teenager last week and escaped prosecution? Would you then support Joe shooting the black guy in the street?
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gut
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Aug 5, 2010 11:50pm
iclfan2;443106 wrote:You can't condone it? So people should just let it happen? Someone needs to stand up to the trash in society, and I for one am glad he did.

Tell me exactly what did Huerta prevent from happening? No, we are not a lawless society dishing out vigilante justice. If the guy had pulled out a gun and unleashed a hail of bullets would you still be applauding Huerta for instigating that?

And no one has mentioned it, but you don't know the whole story either. Probably not likely, but how do you know this guy wasn't protecting his girlfriend that this girl came after or was threatening? I wouldn't and have never hit a women, but we all know some women run their mouths and hit/bite/scratch and deserve a bit of a smackdown.
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Aug 5, 2010 11:57pm
Steel Valley Football;443288 wrote:You, like many here, are letting your emotions and opinions get in the way of the law. Your argument about whether he would be caught is speculation only.

What if another guy (Joe) in that crowd knew the black guy had also raped a teenager last week and escaped prosecution? Would you then support Joe shooting the black guy in the street?

No, but thats not close to the same.

If Joe went up to the guy and confronted him, and the black guy pulled out a gun, I would condone Joe shooting him.

Same thing here, black guy was confronted, and presumably got down to throw down.



...and I wasnt letting my emotions get in the way of anything. I was speaking from what I know, have seen, and have been told over the years. My dad is a lawyer, uncle is a judge, uncle is a lawyer, step uncle is a captain of a police force. This type of shit wouldnt have charges attached. Only reason it may now is because of the notoriety the video has brought.
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Steel Valley Football
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Aug 6, 2010 12:05am
Laley23;443301 wrote:No, but thats not close to the same.

If Joe went up to the guy and confronted him, and the black guy pulled out a gun, I would condone Joe shooting him.

Same thing here, black guy was confronted, and presumably got down to throw down.



...and I wasnt letting my emotions get in the way of anything. I was speaking from what I know, have seen, and have been told over the years. My dad is a lawyer, uncle is a judge, uncle is a lawyer, step uncle is a captain of a police force. This type of shit wouldnt have charges attached. Only reason it may now is because of the notoriety the video has brought.

No, it's EXACTLY the same.

Joe didn't like that black guy broke the law and so he shoots him. Huerta didn't like that black guy broke the law so he pounds him a few and stomps his head. The principle is identical.

But, just as it's not Joe's or Huerta's job to decide on the timing and method of black guy's punishment, it's not up to you to decide which crime deserves street justice and which doesn't. Yet, you clearly have attempted to make that decision.

And, again, your argument about the charges is speculation. Please stop with that.
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Aug 6, 2010 12:13am
Steel Valley Football;443305 wrote:No, it's EXACTLY the same.

Joe didn't like that black guy broke the law and so he shoots him. Huerta didn't like that black guy broke the law so he pounds him a few and stomps his head. The principle is identical.

But, just as it's not Joe's or Huerta's job to decide on the timing and method of black guy's punishment, it's not up to you to decide which crime deserves street justice and which doesn't. Yet, you clearly have attempted to make that decision.

And, again, your argument about the charges is speculation. Please stop with that.

He didnt stomp his head. The most fact we have is that he confronted the guy and the guy provoked him, leading to the beat down.

And it may be speculation, but in my instances with the law, this shit wouldnt any farther than the cops writing shit down.
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Aug 6, 2010 12:16am
Everyone agrees that he'll likely face legal consequences if he in fact attacked him and stomped his head without being threatened. What everyone is saying is, we don't think less of him as a human being for giving some guy who just sucker punched a woman a beating.

The law has to be written and applied a certain way to prevent bias, I'm down with that. But I'm also able to use common sense and say- guy sucker punches woman, Huerta sees said sucker punch, Huerta does what most capable men would do and dishes out a beating to the scumbag.

By the law, Huerta deserves punishment because we can't allow people to dish out vigilante justice. But by my personal standards, Huerta gets a pat on the back.
gut;443297 wrote:but we all know some women run their mouths and hit/bite/scratch and deserve a bit of a smackdown.

This kind of explains a lot. Some people see it as alright to hit women if they're "running their mouths", others not. Personally, I see it just a step above child molesting on the scumbag scale.
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Aug 6, 2010 12:27am
Laley23;443311 wrote:He didnt stomp his head. The most fact we have is that he confronted the guy and the guy provoked him, leading to the beat down.

And it may be speculation, but in my instances with the law, this shit wouldnt any farther than the cops writing shit down.


We don't know who stomped his head but people were supporting that fact when they thought he did. If you read above, you'll see I made clear that if Huerta was provoked that changes the situation.

Again, your speculation, based on past experience or whatever, has nothing to do with what is happening with this in Austin.
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Aug 6, 2010 12:52am
Two things:

1. Dude who hit the girl is a gigantic idiot.

2. Huerta gets no props for this from me. Call the cops and try to keep the guy in the area so justice can actually be served. Huerta is not a police officer or a judge or a jury. Not his place.
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gut
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Aug 6, 2010 2:02am
2kool4skool;443315 wrote: This kind of explains a lot. Some people see it as alright to hit women if they're "running their mouths", others not. Personally, I see it just a step above child molesting on the scumbag scale.
No, I didn't endorse it. I've seen women say some nasty things that hurt a lot more than any physical blows. Certainly respect guys who restrain themselves, but there are certainly women who aren't worthy of that respect because they sure as heck wouldn't say it to another woman or they'd get a stomping. Basically, when they stop acting like a lady I'm unsympathetic if they cease to be treated like one.
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Aug 6, 2010 2:26am
I really don't understand the don't hit a woman mentality. I don't care who it is, man or woman, but if someone comes at me and attacks me, I'm going to hit them back. This bullshit about walking away and not hitting a woman is crap. It's the age of equality, as women are so quick to point out, if they want to attack and hit a guy, they better be ready to get hit back.

*This has nothing to do with the article. I'm just responding to the guys who say it's not ok to ever hit a woman.*
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Aug 6, 2010 7:38am
Roger Huerta did what every American should do step up and defend the rights of other in situation where other find themselves helpless.
What I saw was Roger first trying to talk to the guy what happen after that was off camera.... but whatever did take place Roger took the matter to a lesson level for scumbags women beaters. Well Done Roger
Where can I send a donation to The Roger Huerta Defence Fund Agains Liberal Lawyers, Spineless Judges and Women Beaters.
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Aug 6, 2010 8:02am
Steel Valley Football - what I fail to see in this discussion is you addressing the wrongdoing from the dude who punched the woman. All your anger is aimed at Huerta.
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Aug 6, 2010 8:51am
Ankle Breaker;443391 wrote:Steel Valley Football - what I fail to see in this discussion is you addressing the wrongdoing from the dude who punched the woman. All your anger is aimed at Huerta.

No, this is what you fail to see:

In the USA, it's not Huerta's job, or yours or mine or anyone walking the street, to deal out punishment to someone they feel is breaking the law.

I've never addressed how I feel about that guy hitting a woman. My opinion on that is irrelevant.
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Aug 6, 2010 8:58am
Sorry if I offend some delicate sensibilities, but legal or not, vigilante or not - I think it's awesome.
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Aug 6, 2010 9:01am
Steel Valley Football;443263 wrote:What are you not getting buddy? Who the fuck says it's ok to lynch a guy on the street whenever you feel like he broke the law? What Heurta did was felonious assault. That's NOT HIS JOB.

No, thank you, I'm a republican and that's what's wrong with this country - nobody follows the rules anymore.
On the contrary, I think Huerta followed the rules exactly! I take it you didn't read the yahoo link, here's the important part that justifies Huerta's action:
"I just don’t think that it's right to hit a woman. Period," Huerta told TMZ.
"I approached the man calmly and said, 'Do you know what you just did? You just knocked out this girl.'
But Huerta claims the other guy responded, "[Expletive] you, [expletive] these bitches, I'll knock out any [expletive] bitch that I wanna [expletive] knock out, I’ll knock your [expletive] bitch ass out."

Huerta added, "... and as he's saying this, he's taking off his shirt ... and at that point I was like, alright.' I got the better of him and I left," Huerta said.

The 27-year-old explained, "If that was my mom, if that was my sister, my spouse, anyone … I would’ve wanted someone to step in and do something about it."
What if the guy started whaling on another person, possibly another woman; it would have been fine to just let him do it because, "that's not his job"?
Other reports also state that the guy swung on Huerta first! What was Huerta supposed to do and what about the last portion of his quote; what if it was your mom, sister, or spouse?
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Aug 6, 2010 9:07am
Steel Valley Football;443416 wrote:No, this is what you fail to see:

In the USA, it's not Huerta's job, or yours or mine or anyone walking the street, to deal out punishment to someone they feel is breaking the law.

I've never addressed how I feel about that guy hitting a woman. My opinion on that is irrelevant.

If anyone breaks into my house, I'll make sure to ask them nicely to sit down until the police arrive once I have my gun out.

Or, if like I believe they would, they have a gun and I shoot them.

Sorry SVF, but you can't always sit around and sing Kumbaya until the police arrive, the perp will leave.
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Aug 6, 2010 9:51am
Bigred1995;443423 wrote:On the contrary, I think Huerta followed the rules exactly! I take it you didn't read the yahoo link, here's the important part that justifies Huerta's action:



What if the guy started whaling on another person, possibly another woman; it would have been fine to just let him do it because, "that's not his job"?
Other reports also state that the guy swung on Huerta first! What was Huerta supposed to do and what about the last portion of his quote; what if it was your mom, sister, or spouse?


I posted yesterday:
Steel Valley Football;443242 wrote:If the black guy threatened Huerta then that changes things. But, if Huerta just went after him for revenge then he deserves to be put in jail for felonious assault. If that is the case, then Huerta broke the law and everyone applauding him for dishing this guy his "justice" are idiots.

Nothing has been proven yet, though. If that is the case then it changes things...just as I posted.