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devil1197
Posts: 6,220
Jul 25, 2010 11:13pm
Scarlet_Buckeye;432219 wrote:I agree with all of this. Those expecting a big year from Ohio State are sipping too much OSU koolaid. Yes OSU will be good (they won't lose more than two [regular season] games), but much of their success will ride on the shoulders of Pryor; and quite frankly, I don't think the kid is a very good QB. He is a TREMENDOUS athlete, but quarterback? No. His accuracy is not that of an elite QB.
And yes, he had a superb game against Oregon, but when you really breakdown the film, the OSU coaching staff actually did their job for once and came prepared. They had an impeccable game-plan.
So what you are saying is that when Pryor is used correctly he is a superb QB?
Tiger2003
Posts: 15,421
Jul 25, 2010 11:28pm
TheMightyGators;432380 wrote:I didn't realize football became an individual sport. I guess it makes sense then that Krenzel was the best QB in 2002. "Mr. Realistic" LOL
I guess you don't know football....BC the quarterback is the leader of the team dumbass.....it don't matter if he is a freshman or a Senior....as he goes the offense goes.....
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Jul 25, 2010 11:48pm
Yes you know everything there is to know about football. Clearly this is the case because you are a diehard buckeye fan and honestly believe that you would take Craig Fucking Krenzel over any of the top 5 QB's this year.Tiger2003;432391 wrote:I guess you don't know football....BC the quarterback is the leader of the team dumbass.....it don't matter if he is a freshman or a Senior....as he goes the offense goes.....
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Jul 25, 2010 11:49pm
LOL, and ND bitch trolls cry when buckeye fans get on their threads..please go back to wacking off to Brian Kelly.
ts1227
Posts: 12,319
Jul 26, 2010 12:01am
Pick6;432401 wrote:LOL, and ND bitch trolls cry when buckeye fans get on their threads..please go back to wacking off to Brian Kelly.
What about the couple of OSU fans on the thread that are saying similar things? You'll have to think of an actual substantive argument to come back with on them. :rolleyes:
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rock_knutne
Jul 26, 2010 7:01am
Pick6;432401 wrote:LOL, and ND bitch trolls cry when buckeye fans get on their threads..please go back to wacking off to Brian Kelly.
You're not doing a bad job wacking off to Pryor.
The difference is we aren't trolling. I gave an opinion and supported it with facts, you on the other hand will jump on an ND thread to just bash and flame........understand? No one is saying Pryor sucks or OSU sucks, just giving the facts that he isn't a very good passer. Then again, I wouldn't expect you to understand that, after all, you did compare Vince Young to Brett Favre.......LMAO!
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TheMightyGators
Posts: 438
Jul 26, 2010 7:16am
So, it doesn't have anything to do with talent around him? Doesn't really matter what kind of offensive line he has? Doesn't really matter if the defense causes turnovers, putting the offense in good position or causes a lot of 3 and outs? It doesn't matter if the team has superior talent compared to the opposition? I feel like I'm getting dumber reading your replies, so you should probably stop.Tiger2003;432391 wrote:I guess you don't know football....BC the quarterback is the leader of the team dumbass.....it don't matter if he is a freshman or a Senior....as he goes the offense goes.....
killer_ewok
Posts: 11,379
Jul 26, 2010 7:26am
Pick6;432401 wrote:LOL, and ND bitch trolls cry when buckeye fans get on their threads..please go back to wacking off to Brian Kelly.
You think that ND fans are "trolling" on this thread? Really????
Wow.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Jul 26, 2010 7:29am
If your view is that he is not a very good passer, then nobody on this thread is disagreeing with you. We all know he could use improvement in that area..so move along..
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rock_knutne
Jul 26, 2010 7:49am
Pick6;432468 wrote:If your view is that he is not a very good passer, then nobody on this thread is disagreeing with you. We all know he could use improvement in that area..so move along..
LOL......move along? Maybe you should have done that when you started comparing Vince Young to Brett Favre!
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dat dude
Posts: 1,564
Jul 26, 2010 8:44am
devil1197;432385 wrote:So what you are saying is that when Pryor is used correctly he is a superb QB?
LOL +1
Or "when the coaching staff actually does their job."
Tiger2003
Posts: 15,421
Jul 26, 2010 10:07am
TheMightyGators;432465 wrote:So, it doesn't have anything to do with talent around him? Doesn't really matter what kind of offensive line he has? Doesn't really matter if the defense causes turnovers, putting the offense in good position or causes a lot of 3 and outs? It doesn't matter if the team has superior talent compared to the opposition? I feel like I'm getting dumber reading your replies, so you should probably stop.
Yes you have to have talent around you. But the before the game has ended the quarterback is going to have to make a play. Either with his feet or his arm.
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georgemc80
Posts: 983
Jul 26, 2010 10:38am
So you are supposed to recruit the number 1 prospect in the nation.....NUMBER FREAKING ONE....who happens to be a QB and change his position on day one? That is something that you could have never done. Nobody does that to a #1 QB. This is not EA Sports NCAA football....you can't treat it like a video game. I find your comment very short sighted and impossible.rock_knutne wrote:If he would have played WR from day one, his development would be a lot farther along, that's the point I'm trying to make.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Jul 26, 2010 10:38am
LOL--138 (now 139) posts on whether or not TP is a good QB--the guy's a WINNER,and I'm damn glad he's a Buckeye...GO BUCKS!!!
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Jul 26, 2010 12:57pm
^^ So were David Greene,Pat White and Ken Dorsey lol
Most of the posts arent whether hes a "good" qb, its about whether hes a top 3 QB. Id ask you, but judging from the 100 exclamation points after Bucks in your post ill assume you think so
Most of the posts arent whether hes a "good" qb, its about whether hes a top 3 QB. Id ask you, but judging from the 100 exclamation points after Bucks in your post ill assume you think so
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devil1197
Posts: 6,220
Jul 26, 2010 1:04pm
So in order to be a great college QB, you must pan out in the NFL?
Ok.
Ok.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Jul 26, 2010 1:05pm
Hb31187-to be honest,I don't think he's a top 3 QB,at least according to the criteria set here by some of our OC "experts"...as I said,he wins games-and that's all I care about
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Jul 26, 2010 1:06pm
Nah you're right my bad. Hes top 3, hell hes probably #1. Prolific passer, excellent runner, rarely folds under pressure, legit heisman contender(deja vu when I say that, wonder why?)devil1197;432625 wrote:So in order to be a great college QB, you must pan out in the NFL?
Ok.
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Jul 26, 2010 1:07pm
vball10set;432626 wrote:Hb31187-to be honest,I don't think he's a top 3 QB,at least according to the criteria set here by some of our OC "experts"...as I said,he wins games-and that's all I care about
I agree hes a winner, just not a top 3 QB.
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devil1197
Posts: 6,220
Jul 26, 2010 1:11pm
Hb31187;432627 wrote:Nah you're right my bad. Hes top 3, hell hes probably #1. Prolific passer, excellent runner, rarely folds under pressure, legit heisman contender(deja vu when I say that, wonder why?)
I never said Pryor was a top 3, typical UM fans that cannot read simple posts. But you bring up some pretty damn good college QB's and act like they need to be great in the NFL to be considered great in college.
But last time I did check, Pryor is on the preseason heisman watch list. Like I said, if OSU runs the table and Pryor puts up good (not even great stats) he'll be invited to New York with a good shot of winning. That's how the system works.
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Jul 26, 2010 1:15pm
Nah, but putting up great stats aside from Wins as a QB would help with people labeling you as a great QB. His stats arent exactly mind boggling, theyre a bit above average, aside from his rushing which is above average.
So basically what you're saying is, just because TP plays for a national powerhouse even if he puts up mediocre stats and OSU goes undefeated hell be invited to NY because hell be overrated by the media?
So basically what you're saying is, just because TP plays for a national powerhouse even if he puts up mediocre stats and OSU goes undefeated hell be invited to NY because hell be overrated by the media?
KnightRyder
Posts: 1,428
Jul 26, 2010 1:32pm
georgemc80;432530 wrote:So you are supposed to recruit the number 1 prospect in the nation.....NUMBER FREAKING ONE....who happens to be a QB and change his position on day one? That is something that you could have never done. Nobody does that to a #1 QB. This is not EA Sports NCAA football....you can't treat it like a video game. I find your comment very short sighted and impossible.
Dan Kendra III was the top qb prospect in the nation also the usa today offensive player of the year in high school. FSU eventually moved him to full back
Writerbuckeye
Posts: 4,745
Jul 26, 2010 1:53pm
KnightRyder;432642 wrote:Dan Kendra III was the top qb prospect in the nation also the usa today offensive player of the year in high school. FSU eventually moved him to full back
There's your difference, fishbulb.
You at least give the player a chance at the position they were ranked No. 1 at.
KnightRyder
Posts: 1,428
Jul 26, 2010 2:22pm
Writerbuckeye;432672 wrote:There's your difference, fishbulb.
You at least give the player a chance at the position they were ranked No. 1 at.
yea and that was whopping one start. i guess in tallahassee you have to earn the starting job,regardless of your high school achievements. not like in c-bus where they are just handed to you, dickweed.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Jul 26, 2010 2:30pm
KnightRyder;432703 wrote:not like in c-bus where they are just handed to you, dickweed.
seriously? :rolleyes: