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stlouiedipalma
Posts: 1,797
Oct 15, 2010 11:23pm
Didn't Gingrich and his comrades try to shut down the government back in the 90's? Didn't that just about seal the deal on Clinton's re-election?
And when the R's take over Congress does that mean that everything will suddenly be OK again? Remember, the cycle is a little under 2 years. If they don't turn everything around by then they should be voted out, right?
And when the R's take over Congress does that mean that everything will suddenly be OK again? Remember, the cycle is a little under 2 years. If they don't turn everything around by then they should be voted out, right?
fish82
Posts: 4,111
Oct 16, 2010 10:00am
They actually did shut it down for a few weeks if memory serves. And yes, Clinton successfully demagogued it to it to his advantage for re-election. Ironically, he also caved to about 90% of the Pubs' demands in the end...thus leading to the "balanced" budget circa 1999-2000.stlouiedipalma;521133 wrote:Didn't Gingrich and his comrades try to shut down the government back in the 90's? Didn't that just about seal the deal on Clinton's re-election?
And when the R's take over Congress does that mean that everything will suddenly be OK again? Remember, the cycle is a little under 2 years. If they don't turn everything around by then they should be voted out, right?
And with the current mood of the electorate, it wouldn't surprise me at all to see congress flip back the other way in 2 years if there isn't significant improvement.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Oct 20, 2010 1:33pm
Dem's stooping to new lows ........
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/house-races/124967-pa-democrat-admits-helping-tea-party-candidate
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/house-races/124967-pa-democrat-admits-helping-tea-party-candidate
Ty Webb
Posts: 2,798
Oct 20, 2010 1:55pm
QuakerOats;525995 wrote:Dem's stooping to new lows ........
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/house-races/124967-pa-democrat-admits-helping-tea-party-candidate
You act like Republicans don't do this all the time
And he said the DNC or NDCC had nothing to do with this....he said it was all his campaign
fish82
Posts: 4,111
Oct 20, 2010 2:40pm
Oh. Well, gosh, that makes it all better, doesn't it?Ty Webb;526016 wrote:You act like Republicans don't do this all the time
And he said the DNC or NDCC had nothing to do with this....he said it was all his campaign
If pubs do this "all the time," you should be able to google several examples over the past 6 months. Ready? Go.
jhay78
Posts: 1,917
Oct 20, 2010 4:13pm
How about Harry Reid- encouraging "3rd Party" candidates, who would cause votes to be split among Republicans/Tea Party/ Independents.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/03/09/facing-dismal-poll-numbers-reid-welcomes-party-candidates-senate-race/
This clown in PA wasn't the first, and won't be the last, Democrat to resort to this type of stuff.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/03/09/facing-dismal-poll-numbers-reid-welcomes-party-candidates-senate-race/
This clown in PA wasn't the first, and won't be the last, Democrat to resort to this type of stuff.
Thread Bomber
Posts: 1,851
Oct 20, 2010 4:16pm
Independant and 3rd parties have a history of effin up the election process. But I have never known of a candidate "encouraging" a third part to run.
Ty Webb
Posts: 2,798
Oct 23, 2010 2:31pm
Poll Shows Surge in Democratic Enthusiasm
Contrary to nearly every other recent poll, a new Newsweek survey shows Democrats leading Republicans in the generic congressional ballot, 48% to 42%, among registered voters. Among those who have already voted, Democrats lead by 10 points, 52% to 42%.
The poll also shows President Obama's approval ratings have jumped substantially to 54%, while the portion of respondents who disapprove of the president dropped to 40%.
Said pollster Larry Hugick: "The idea that the Democrats are just going to sit this one out doesn't seem very likely. While there's no question that Republicans are going to pick up seats, the question is how many."
http://politicalwire.com/archives/2010/10/23/poll_shows_surge_in_democratic_enthusiasm.html
Contrary to nearly every other recent poll, a new Newsweek survey shows Democrats leading Republicans in the generic congressional ballot, 48% to 42%, among registered voters. Among those who have already voted, Democrats lead by 10 points, 52% to 42%.
The poll also shows President Obama's approval ratings have jumped substantially to 54%, while the portion of respondents who disapprove of the president dropped to 40%.
Said pollster Larry Hugick: "The idea that the Democrats are just going to sit this one out doesn't seem very likely. While there's no question that Republicans are going to pick up seats, the question is how many."
http://politicalwire.com/archives/2010/10/23/poll_shows_surge_in_democratic_enthusiasm.html
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Oct 23, 2010 3:56pm
Ty Webb;529713 wrote:Poll Shows Surge in Democratic Enthusiasm
Contrary to nearly every other recent poll, a new Newsweek survey shows Democrats leading Republicans in the generic congressional ballot, 48% to 42%, among registered voters. Among those who have already voted, Democrats lead by 10 points, 52% to 42%.
The poll also shows President Obama's approval ratings have jumped substantially to 54%, while the portion of respondents who disapprove of the president dropped to 40%.
Said pollster Larry Hugick: "The idea that the Democrats are just going to sit this one out doesn't seem very likely. While there's no question that Republicans are going to pick up seats, the question is how many."
http://politicalwire.com/archives/2010/10/23/poll_shows_surge_in_democratic_enthusiasm.html
Sorry, Newsweek is not a reliable source.
Yes, the D's will probably come out a little more than anticipated. But, it won't matter.
fish82
Posts: 4,111
Oct 23, 2010 5:33pm
House - 62 seats.
Senate - 8 seats.
Mark it down.
Senate - 8 seats.
Mark it down.
Ty Webb
Posts: 2,798
Oct 23, 2010 5:57pm
ptown_trojans_1;529870 wrote:Sorry, Newsweek is not a reliable source.
Yes, the D's will probably come out a little more than anticipated. But, it won't matter.
Why,because Democrats are starting to look a little better ptown?
Ty Webb
Posts: 2,798
Oct 23, 2010 5:58pm
No wayfish82;529982 wrote:House - 62 seats.
Senate - 8 seats.
Mark it down.
BGFalcons82
Posts: 2,173
Oct 23, 2010 11:26pm
Originally Posted by fish82
House - 62 seats.
Senate - 8 seats.
Mark it down.
No way
Way.
House - 62 seats.
Senate - 8 seats.
Mark it down.
No way
Way.
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Oct 24, 2010 12:30am
Ty Webb;529998 wrote:Why,because Democrats are starting to look a little better ptown?
No, because Newsweek is a joke around the town for 1. (they are broke) and 2. they are too left leaning to give them any credibility.
Ty Webb
Posts: 2,798
Oct 24, 2010 5:24pm
But FOX has credibility right??
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Oct 24, 2010 5:26pm
Ty Webb;531099 wrote:But FOX has credibility right??
Hell no. Neither does CNN, or MSNBC.
Ty Webb
Posts: 2,798
Oct 24, 2010 5:30pm
Your ignorant if you think CNN had no credibility
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Oct 24, 2010 7:17pm
Ty Webb;531114 wrote:Your ignorant if you think CNN had no credibility
Had as in past tense-yes. Now, not really. None of the cable news outlets have any credibility to me. Fox plays to the right, MSNBC to the left and CNN doesn't play to anyone, but still is all over the map and brings nothing to any conversation.
Back to the topic, I can see moderate gains by the R's. I see them taking the House, but not the Senate.
Ty Webb
Posts: 2,798
Oct 28, 2010 3:56pm
jhay78
Posts: 1,917
Oct 28, 2010 4:17pm
Unfortunately, Gibby, "Generic" is not on the ballot for Senator, Governor, or US Representative in any state or district in the entire US.
Ty Webb
Posts: 2,798
Oct 28, 2010 4:23pm
Response I thought Republicans would give
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Oct 28, 2010 4:25pm
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2010/house/2010_elections_house_map.html
Now there's some ........................ change we can believe in ............
Now there's some ........................ change we can believe in ............
Ty Webb
Posts: 2,798
Oct 28, 2010 4:27pm
QuakerOats;536352 wrote:http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2010/house/2010_elections_house_map.html
Now there's some ........................ change we can believe in ............
Why don't you post the Senate map Quaker...I seem to remember you say "the Republicans will end up with between 55-60 seats"
BGFalcons82
Posts: 2,173
Oct 28, 2010 4:30pm
Rasmussen has generic R over generic D by 9 - http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/generic_congressional_ballot
Real Clear Politics has generic R up by 6 - http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/generic_congressional_vote-901.html Interestingly, if you go to this website, you'll find the Marist/McClatchey poll you tried to tell us about. In the RCP numbers, M/M has it +6 for the generic R, not even as you suggest. RCP is updated as of 10-25.
Ty Webb
Posts: 2,798
Oct 28, 2010 4:33pm
BGFalcons82;536360 wrote:Rasmussen has generic R over generic D by 9 - http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/generic_congressional_ballot
Real Clear Politics has generic R up by 6 - http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/generic_congressional_vote-901.html Interestingly, if you go to this website, you'll find the Marist/McClatchey poll you tried to tell us about. In the RCP numbers, M/M has it +6 for the generic R, not even as you suggest. RCP is updated as of 10-25.
http://maristpoll.marist.edu/1028-turnout-key-for-midterm-elections/