I'd consult another lawyer. Most offer free consults nowdays. If the 2nd lawyer says the same thing, take the plea.

Seriously. You can do without booze for a year and it will go quicker than you think.

BTW was talking to a friend the other day and her brother got his 3rd DUI which was dropped down to what they call Physical Control. His other 2 DUI's were dropped down to reckless ops.
So, he ended up paying out about $4,000 including court/lawyer fee's, did 4 days in DIP and had work driving priveleges all along.

Definitely consult another lawyer.

Oh excuse me.

"I was <.08, and if I was six months older I'd have been completely legal."

You show me someone who thinks <.08 is drunk and I'll show you someone who is beyond ignorant when it comes to BAC and alcohol consumption. I was ignorant to that fact. I was absolutely fine. ("OHHHH THEY ALL SAY THAT!!!") Yeah, maybe; I don't know. All I know is that "are you good to drive?" used to be the test, and now I'll buy a breathalyzer and let people know even when you're sober you're still pretty close to the limit.

But your assumption that I was a danger to anyone that night is wrong. And I was only speeding as much as the officer was, funny how that works.

i would get another lawyer. with these types of cases, what you really need is a local attorney that deals with this judge a lot.

Are you kidding me?

I'm not trying to sound judgmental, but you wrote, "I'm an honors student, Eagle Scout, religious leader, etc."

1. Honor students should have more brains then to get themselves into a situation like this.

2. What does being an Eagle Scout have to do with this?

3. Religious Leader? Um, seriously, don't use that line in court. A Religious leader at age 20? What, you mean you help the priest sip the wine after communion? That's the problem with religious people, they neglect that "relationship with God" thing which would help develop your character into someone who wouldn't have put themselves in this situation at all.

Regardless, best wishes to you and I hope this doesn't define your future.

areyoukiddingme;425285 wrote:Are you kidding me?

I'm not trying to sound judgmental, but you wrote, "I'm an honors student, Eagle Scout, religious leader, etc."

1. Honor students should have more brains then to get themselves into a situation like this.

2. What does being an Eagle Scout have to do with this?

3. Religious Leader? Um, seriously, don't use that line in court. A Religious leader at age 20? What, you mean you help the priest sip the wine after communion? That's the problem with religious people, they neglect that "relationship with God" thing which would help develop your character into someone who wouldn't have put themselves in this situation at all.

Regardless, best wishes to you and I hope this doesn't define your future.

Well now there you have it!
:rolleyes:

areyoukiddingme;425285 wrote:Are you kidding me?

I'm not trying to sound judgmental, but

Then you failed miserably.

sjmvsfscs08;425283 wrote: But your assumption that I was a danger to anyone that night is wrong.

As far as the State of Ohio is concerned, you are wrong.

queencitybuckeye,

Again, I honestly wasn't trying to be judgmental, but those things were so blatantly obvious to me when I read his post that it sounds like someone just looking for an excuse to have a little fun.

If, he wanted to have fun and disregard his religious leadership abilities and honor student mind-set, then do it, but then own up to the punishment and realize you made a mistake and let it go.

I like the idea of talking to a 2nd lawyer. If they both say take the deal, then I would take it. I think DUI (even if you would have been legal had you been 21) is a much bigger deal than underage consumption and they might try to make an example out of you.

areyoukiddingme;425306 wrote:queencitybuckeye,

Again, I honestly wasn't trying to be judgmental, but those things were so blatantly obvious to me when I read his post that it sounds like someone just looking for an excuse to have a little fun.

If, he wanted to have fun and disregard his religious leadership abilities and honor student mind-set, then do it, but then own up to the punishment and realize you made a mistake and let it go.

Just having some fun with ya'. I'm having a hard time taking this thread too seriously, as it boils down to "is this fair"? The answer is, of course not. Fair is where you go to see the butter celebrity and to win a ribbon for best jelly.

sjmvsfscs08;425272 wrote:DRUNK? Get real dude. I was under the legal limit. and the legal limit is a joke anyway. Three beers and your drunk, what are you 90lbs soaking wet?

You're under age so the limit is technically .02 for you I think which is why you were over the limit.

areyoukiddingme;425306 wrote:queencitybuckeye,

Again, I honestly wasn't trying to be judgmental, but those things were so blatantly obvious to me when I read his post that it sounds like someone just looking for an excuse to have a little fun.

If, he wanted to have fun and disregard his religious leadership abilities and honor student mind-set, then do it, but then own up to the punishment and realize you made a mistake and let it go.

Just because the cops or the law says something is inconceivably wrong doesn't necessarily make it so.

If the OP's story is true then he was acting pretty responsibly that night apart from letting his friend drive to the BK.

I Wear Pants;425374 wrote:Just because the cops or the law says something is inconceivably wrong doesn't necessarily make it so.

Yes it does.

dlazz;425414 wrote:Yes it does.

Wait you're not that pig cop from the other threads are you?!

areyoukiddingme;425285 wrote:Are you kidding me?

I'm not trying to sound judgmental, but you wrote, "I'm an honors student, Eagle Scout, religious leader, etc."

1. Honor students should have more brains then to get themselves into a situation like this.

2. What does being an Eagle Scout have to do with this?

3. Religious Leader? Um, seriously, don't use that line in court. A Religious leader at age 20? What, you mean you help the priest sip the wine after communion? That's the problem with religious people, they neglect that "relationship with God" thing which would help develop your character into someone who wouldn't have put themselves in this situation at all.

Regardless, best wishes to you and I hope this doesn't define your future.

Well hey it was just the lawyer's play. In his experience they treat good people better than repeating offenders. Want to know why they didn't just give me community service like everyone else? I do too much of it. To graduate from HS we had to do a meager 20 hours, in my senior year alone I did over 400. While I don't have free summers and time in college, I still get out there every now and then. In my opinion and my lawyer's opinion they are giving me the parole because they know I don't have monetary issues and community service wouldn't teach me a lesson because I do it anyway. As for the religious leader, I lead a annual retreat called Kairos every fall with my former high school. Luckily, my license will be renewed November 5th, so I can make the November 10-12 dates this year haha

But just to make a point again, I know I was absolutely in the wrong. I was, and am, a drinking novice and figured three beers would be like a .03. No, actually .07. I also understand what typically happens with an underage and am fine with it. Like I said before I'm not looking to get off free. I simply wanted to vent, collect a few "cool story bros" (nice job ccrunner) and see if people agreed I'm getting a raw deal in comparison to their experiences. And obviously, I am.

Soooo....you need to quit being a bitch and man up.

We will pray for you, you religious leader.

sjmvsfscs08;425427 wrote:Wait you're not that pig cop from the other thread are you?!

No, I am not.

But seriously, grow up and take responsibility for your actions. You aren't special because you're a "religious leader" or a "Eagle scout". The rest of society (not the idiot above me, actual society) doesn't care, and neither will the judge.

I Wear Pants;425374 wrote:Just because the cops or the law says something is inconceivably wrong doesn't necessarily make it so.

dlazz;425414 wrote:Yes it does.

Meh. Just because something is illegal doesn't mean it's always wrong and just because it's legal doesn't mean it's always right.

To echo everyone else I'd get that 2nd opinion. That said, whether you like the laws as stated or not, you broke them. I think its a little harsh and I don't see why the Prosecutor gave you the big bad cop speel because its not up to the cop as to your suggested punishment, its up to the DA and your prior record/character references should have been enough for a simple ticket/court costs/alcohol involved crime 1 year probation. However it is what it is and you're going to have to face the music.

Or you could have mama "donate" to the judge's reelection campaign with some of those millions

dlazz;425434 wrote:But seriously, grow up and take responsibility for your actions. You aren't special because you're a "religious leader" or a "Eagle scout". The rest of society (not the idiot above me, actual society) doesn't care, and neither will the judge.

I will bet any amount of money that is false. If you think judges don't take into account what type of person someone is or if their a habitual offender, you're an idiot. A family friend of mine is a magistrate in Toledo and the first thing she said was that presenting them a picture of who you are and that it was an egregious accident is the best thing you can do.

I don't mean to sound like a bitch or to think I'm special. These "religious leader" comments are a bit much, but society is a prick so it is what it is.

In maybe the most ironic situation of my life, I have to go to work now....in which I will be serving numerous people alcohol. Strange how that works isn't it? hahaha

Quote of the day:

"Life is tough, but it's tougher when you're stupid." --John Wayne


Ironic, isn't it?

I stopped reading all the posts so excuse me if someone has made these remarks already, but it doesn't matter if you had one beer, you are still over the limit to drive. Lesson learned here is don't fuck with the law. Come on man, you were lucky to get off the first time. With that in the back of your head, why would you even try to put yourself at risk?

Truth be told I would have left when the douche accused me of causing the flood. Actually I'd have probably tried to piss on his bed, then left.

My philosophy at a party "drink until I pass out" would have worked out very well for you in this situation

The Equalizer;425459 wrote:Truth be told I would have left when the douche accused me of causing the flood. Actually I'd have probably tried to piss on his bed, then left.

No shit right? If I thought somebody put 60 gallons of water in my room, that son of a bitch wouldn't be hanging out for damn sure. And if I was that guy, I sure as shit wasn't going to stand around waiting for the guy to get more drunk. smh