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Jul 8, 2010 10:29 AM
Non;415535 wrote:They were in the NBA Finals once.

They were tied 2-2 at home against Boston in that pivotal playoff game last year.

To say that the situation in Cleveland is hopeless is not accurate.

They developed one of the best fan bases in the league. Fun atmosphere. The team has continued to get better year after year. LeBron probably had his best season just last year so he still can be better in the playoffs than he was this past year. Maybe the injury played a role.

If he's looking at it like I did all that I could but we're not going to do it, that's a crock. It's just difficult. A challenge. You don't have to run from challenges. That's a basic principle. There have been a lot of teams that have made the playoffs and fallen short but they came back and went all the way.
This.
Jul 8, 2010 10:29am
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Jul 8, 2010 10:55 AM
thedynasty1998;415462 wrote:How else should he let the people of Cleveland know? Just hop on a plane and head to Miami and sign his contract? People would hate him even more. He's not ripping anyone's heart out by announcing it on TV, he's ripping hearts out by leaving Cleveland.

And yes, he is of a stature that probably no one else in the world can relate to. He's a global icon. People talk about every single move he makes. I personally don't see any other way for him to announce it. The media has made this whole process bigger than what it is.

Let me paint a picture that might be a bit more personal to you. Him kicking us in nuts on national TV might be somewhat comparable to, let's say you're married, your wife telling you you are getting a divorce and she's screwing your best friend on Facebook. Very impersonal and unnecessary.
Jul 8, 2010 10:55am
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Jul 8, 2010 10:56 AM
^^^pretty good analogy--ouch!!!
Jul 8, 2010 10:56am
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Jul 8, 2010 10:59 AM
^^^interesting analogy--ouch...

Jul 8, 2010 10:59am
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Jul 8, 2010 10:59 AM
BR1986FB;415584 wrote:Let me paint a picture that might be a bit more personal to you. Him kicking us in nuts on national TV might be somewhat comparable to, let's say you're married, your wife telling you you are getting a divorce and she's screwing your best friend on Facebook. Very impersonal and unnecessary.

Perfect metaphor!
Jul 8, 2010 10:59am
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Jul 8, 2010 11:02 AM
I guess I'm in the minority. I just don't see it that way.

I don't think he owes the city of Cleveland anything more than they owe him.
Jul 8, 2010 11:02am
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Jul 8, 2010 12:09 PM
Its shocking to see this thread or any thread relating to James leaving when for so long over 90% of the so-called James and Cavs fans guaranteed he was not leaving.
Jul 8, 2010 12:09pm
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Jul 8, 2010 12:18 PM
I didn't think he'd leave because I thought the organization would bring in the right pieces to surround him. However I also believe that could have been done with a commitment from James himself. He put Cleve in a bad situation having to wait on him. Without knowing he is staying players are not going to commit to the Cavs. He handcuffed them!
Jul 8, 2010 12:18pm
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Jul 8, 2010 12:45 PM
I think Bill Simmons summed things up pretty well IF he were to leave and announce it on TV in his most recent column.
I can't wait to watch for the same reasons I couldn't turn away from O.J.'s Bronco chase or the Artest melee: it's Car Wreck Television. If LeBron picks anyone other than the Cavaliers, it will be the cruelest television moment since David Chase ended "The Sopranos" by making everyone think they lost power. Cleveland fans will never forgive LeBron, nor should they. He knows better than anyone what kind of sports anguish they have suffered over the years. Losing LeBron on a contrived one-hour show would be worse than Byner's fumble, Jose Mesa, the Game 5 meltdown against Boston, The Drive, The Shot and everything else. At least those stomach-punch moments weren't preordained, unless you believe God hates Cleveland (entirely possible, by the way). This stomach-punch moment? Calculated. By a local kid they loved, defended and revered.

It would be unforgivable. Repeat: unforgivable. I don't have a dog in this race -- as a Celtics fan, I wanted to see him go anywhere but Chicago -- but LeBron doing this show after what happened in the 2010 playoffs actually turned me against him. No small feat. I was one of his biggest defenders. Not anymore.

And here's where I really worry, because I don't think LeBron James has anyone in his life with enough juice to hurl his or her body in front of the concept of "I'm going to announce during a one-hour live show that I'm playing somewhere other than Cleveland." It's the best and worst thing about him -- he has remained fiercely loyal to his high school friends, but at the same time, he's surrounded by people his own age who don't stand up to him and don't know any better. Picking anyone other than Cleveland on this show would be the meanest thing any athlete has ever done to a city. But he might. Assuming he's not malicious, and that he's just a self-absorbed kid who apparently lost all perspective, that doesn't make him much different than most child stars who became famous before they could legally drink -- or, for that matter, Tiger Woods. That's just the way this stuff works. Too much, too fast, too soon. You don't lose your way all at once; just a little at a time. Then one day you look up and there's a TMZ photo spread with 15 of your mistresses, or you're agreeing to stab an entire city in the heart on a one-hour television show.
Jul 8, 2010 12:45pm
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Jul 8, 2010 12:51 PM
It's interesting that through your life, the way you were raised, the influences, all could have an impact on one major decision like this.
Jul 8, 2010 12:51pm
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Jul 8, 2010 12:56 PM
I don't understand how it is hard for several of you Cavalier "fans" to comprehend that Chris Bosh didn't want to come to Cleveland.
Jul 8, 2010 12:56pm
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Jul 8, 2010 12:58 PM
Early Cuyler;415772 wrote:I don't understand how it is hard for several of you Cavalier "fans" to comprehend that Chris Bosh didn't want to come to Cleveland.

Agreed. South Beach or Lake Erie?
Jul 8, 2010 12:58pm
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Jul 8, 2010 3:45 PM
so it appears the lebron announcement thread disappeared. likely gibby reported BR for the slurs.

ummmmmm...

dingleberries?

edit:

It got stickied.

(thats what she said)
Jul 8, 2010 3:45pm
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Jul 8, 2010 4:56 PM
BR1986FB;415354 wrote:With the nutjobs in Cleveland, he might be well served to avoid the Q. After seeing Bottlegate if he kicks this city in the nuts with the TOTALLY CLASSLESS gesture of announcing he's leaving on national TV, it wouldn't suprise me if some kook tried to go John Lennon on his ass when he returns.
If I were LBJ, I would refrain from throwing chalk dust into the air. Especially if I'm in attendance.
Jul 8, 2010 4:56pm
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Jul 8, 2010 5:06 PM
Footwedge;416261 wrote:If I were LBJ, I would refrain from throwing chalk dust into the air. Especially if I'm in attendance.

He'll probably pull a Boozer and fake injury for a few years...
Jul 8, 2010 5:06pm
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Jul 8, 2010 5:43 PM
Footwedge;416261 wrote:If I were LBJ, I would refrain from throwing chalk dust into the air. Especially if I'm in attendance.


I'm sure he'll think twice about it now. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jul 8, 2010 5:43pm
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Jul 8, 2010 5:45 PM
Heretic;415747 wrote:I think Bill Simmons summed things up pretty well IF he were to leave and announce it on TV in his most recent column.
Agree!
Jul 8, 2010 5:45pm
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Jul 8, 2010 7:07 PM
krazie45;416274 wrote:He'll probably pull a Boozer and fake injury for a few years...

I was talking to one of my friends and we both agreed that Lebron would not play at all when they come to Cleveland. You don't know what a crazy, spurned Cavalier fan will do. Just play it safe, the Cavaliers are going to be brutal next year without James (20 wins or so) let him stay in Miami and let Wade and Bosh handle things
Jul 8, 2010 7:07pm
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Jul 8, 2010 7:32 PM
jordo212000;415778 wrote:Agreed. South Beach or Lake Erie?

South Beach.

Sorry Cavalier "fans," but I think he is good as gone. I don't see the point of why he has been dragging this out for as long as he has if he was planning on returning to Cleveland (other than the fact that he is an attention whore.) For those throwing the "he won't be the man in Miami" argument, I don't think he gives two shits. They can find two other scrubs to round up a decent starting five in Miami with LeBron, Wade, and Bosh in comparison to what he has working for him in Cleveland. I believe if Cleveland would have traded for Amare instead of Jamison things would be different, but God forbid you guys give up J.J. Hickson for him.
Jul 8, 2010 7:32pm
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Jul 8, 2010 7:39 PM
newarkcatholicfan;415672 wrote:Its shocking to see this thread or any thread relating to James leaving when for so long over 90% of the so-called James and Cavs fans guaranteed he was not leaving.


YOU, a bandwagon jumper, calling someone a "so called fan" is actually pretty hilarious. Thank you.
Jul 8, 2010 7:39pm
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Jul 8, 2010 8:15 PM
fuck all of you haters.
Jul 8, 2010 8:15pm