OQB
Posts: 6,679
Oct 19, 2010 11:39pm
Didn't know it was splitting up....that's good for Dover. Their non league games already are very good with Canfield and Ashland. I wish they would bring Dover back to the Orrville schedule, that was always a great game, and the winner always got tons of computer points.
maybe Dover could get Big Red on the schedule as a non-league game too.
maybe Dover could get Big Red on the schedule as a non-league game too.
LocoEngineer66
Posts: 790
Oct 20, 2010 11:22am
I don't see Minerva dropping to 7 but I do like that they are the second fav to win the region.Dover;525646 wrote:Drews projections after week 8
Projected Seeds
1) Marlington (Alliance)
2) Steubenville
3) Sheridan (Thornville)
4) East Liverpool
5) Licking Valley (Newark)
6) Salem
7) Minerva
8) Dover
Region Championship Odds
Marlington (Alliance) 4:5
Minerva 8:1
Sheridan (Thornville) 10:1
Steubenville 10:1
Licking Valley (Newark) 18:1
Dover 18:1
Salem 25:1
East Liverpool 80:1
more info at this link:
http://www.fantastic50.net/index.php?pr=Ohio_Region_11
d.woods50fan.
Posts: 451
Oct 20, 2010 1:53pm
Dover;525646 wrote:Drews projections after week 8
Projected Seeds
1) Marlington (Alliance)
2) Steubenville
3) Sheridan (Thornville)
4) East Liverpool
5) Licking Valley (Newark)
6) Salem
7) Minerva
8) Dover
Region Championship Odds
Marlington (Alliance) 4:5
Minerva 8:1
Sheridan (Thornville) 10:1
Steubenville 10:1
Licking Valley (Newark) 18:1
Dover 18:1
Salem 25:1
East Liverpool 80:1
more info at this link:
http://www.fantastic50.net/index.php?pr=Ohio_Region_11
This is great !!! Be the projected #2 seed and be and underdog !!! LMAO
fish82
Posts: 4,111
Oct 20, 2010 4:07pm
Interesting odds. I'll take Steuby at 10:1 all day long, and retire comfortably to a tropical island.Dover;525646 wrote:Drews projections after week 8
Projected Seeds
1) Marlington (Alliance)
2) Steubenville
3) Sheridan (Thornville)
4) East Liverpool
5) Licking Valley (Newark)
6) Salem
7) Minerva
8) Dover
Region Championship Odds
Marlington (Alliance) 4:5
Minerva 8:1
Sheridan (Thornville) 10:1
Steubenville 10:1
Licking Valley (Newark) 18:1
Dover 18:1
Salem 25:1
East Liverpool 80:1
more info at this link:
http://www.fantastic50.net/index.php?pr=Ohio_Region_11
Caturdayz
Posts: 95
Oct 20, 2010 4:27pm
It's hard to know really how good Steubenville actually is.
Mooney and Ursuline are both excellent, so losing to them doesn't mean much, and it is hard to judge based only on the West Virginia teams because they are such an unknown quantity.
That being said, 10:1 seems extreme. And while Marlington are in a great position to win this, 4:5 isn't giving Steubenville much credit.
Mooney and Ursuline are both excellent, so losing to them doesn't mean much, and it is hard to judge based only on the West Virginia teams because they are such an unknown quantity.
That being said, 10:1 seems extreme. And while Marlington are in a great position to win this, 4:5 isn't giving Steubenville much credit.
d.woods50fan.
Posts: 451
Oct 20, 2010 4:51pm
Caturdayz;526224 wrote:It's hard to know really how good Steubenville actually is.
Mooney and Ursuline are both excellent, so losing to them doesn't mean much, and it is hard to judge based only on the West Virginia teams because they are such an unknown quantity.
That being said, 10:1 seems extreme. And while Marlington are in a great position to win this, 4:5 isn't giving Steubenville much credit.
But the thing is we lost to Massillon and Ursuline. I'm a gambler so where do I place my bet !
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HeathAlum21
Posts: 363
Oct 20, 2010 5:57pm
If Licking Valley can put points on the board, then watch out for the Panthers. Their D is the real deal and they certainly know how to win. Go Panthers.
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holdingout
Posts: 585
Oct 20, 2010 6:33pm
Dover;525646 wrote:Drews projections after week 8
Projected Seeds
1) Marlington (Alliance)
2) Steubenville
3) Sheridan (Thornville)
4) East Liverpool
5) Licking Valley (Newark)
6) Salem
7) Minerva
8) Dover
Region Championship Odds
Marlington (Alliance) 4:5
Minerva 8:1
Sheridan (Thornville) 10:1
Steubenville 10:1
Licking Valley (Newark) 18:1
Dover 18:1
Salem 25:1
East Liverpool 80:1
more info at this link:
http://www.fantastic50.net/index.php?pr=Ohio_Region_11
Question...If Dover and Edison win out, does Dover still get in? Going to be a wild final 2 weeks.
Caturdayz
Posts: 95
Oct 20, 2010 7:11pm
holdingout;526394 wrote:Question...If Dover and Edison win out, does Dover still get in? Going to be a wild final 2 weeks.
Only if someone else dropped out, Which could potentially happen to Minerva or Salem
MinervaGrad10
Posts: 60
Oct 20, 2010 9:02pm
Caturdayz;526443 wrote:Only if someone else dropped out, Which could potentially happen to Minerva or Salem
wow no one is giving Minerva even a chance.. everyone saying they will drop out or just get the 7th or 8th seed? they have only lost one game which was to the number 1 team in the state in division 3 now and they had there chance to win that... I think Minerva wins this week and could lock up a playoff berth and i honestly think to we can beat Louisville which should get us to prob 4th and a home game
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Oct 20, 2010 10:02pm
OrrvilleQB;525683 wrote:
maybe Dover could get Big Red on the schedule as a non-league game too.
LocoEngineer66
Posts: 790
Oct 20, 2010 10:45pm
Caturdayz;526443 wrote:Only if someone else dropped out, Which could potentially happen to Minerva or Salem
Region Championship Odds
Marlington (Alliance) 4:5
Minerva 8:1
Sheridan (Thornville) 10:1
Steubenville 10:1
Licking Valley (Newark) 18:1
Dover 18:1
Salem 25:1
East Liverpool 80:1
Ya think Minerva is going to drop out ... no way ... they are NOT the second favorite to win the region because they suck.
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crimsondave
Posts: 5
Oct 21, 2010 1:35pm
I don't think Minerva sucks but they have beaten only one team with a winning record. I just don't understand when these teams that have never won before. get all this hype and i'm talking about all the teams in the region who are newcomers to the playoffs not just Minerva.
Caturdayz
Posts: 95
Oct 21, 2010 3:13pm
I'm not saying Minerva sucks, I'm just saying if they lose to Louisville they COULD fall out.
And Minerva gets fourth if...
1. They beat Louisville
2. Salem loses to Lakeview
3. East Liverpool loses to Salem AND John Marshall
And Minerva gets fourth if...
1. They beat Louisville
2. Salem loses to Lakeview
3. East Liverpool loses to Salem AND John Marshall
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Thinthickbigred
Posts: 4,148
Oct 21, 2010 5:14pm
We have had alot of bad luck this year with injuries ,alot moreso than most years . We played two good WVA teams in Brooke and Morgantown and we played a very strong McKeesport team .. Also Inkster as an opener wasnt an easy game at the time so we thought . Confidence is a really big thing also with HS teams so we have to get somewhat healthy by the end of the year come playoff timeCaturdayz;526224 wrote:It's hard to know really how good Steubenville actually is.
Mooney and Ursuline are both excellent, so losing to them doesn't mean much, and it is hard to judge based only on the West Virginia teams because they are such an unknown quantity.
That being said, 10:1 seems extreme. And while Marlington are in a great position to win this, 4:5 isn't giving Steubenville much credit.
Crimson and Gray Hair
Posts: 384
Oct 21, 2010 7:42pm
Injuries are an ugly part of football. Most teams are compromised to one degree or another at some time through the season. Good coaches and good teams move on and don't dwell on it.
Good fans can do the same.
Good fans can do the same.
J-Dover
Posts: 234
Oct 21, 2010 8:11pm
East Liverpool gets beat by Carrollton 47-19, who Dover beat 63-14, and yet EL is at the number 3 seat and Dover is the 9th? What? Dover's two losses come from 6-2 Division II teams. EL one loss is to the DIII (4-4) team that Dover smoked! How's that work?
LET'S GO DOVER!!!!
LET'S GO DOVER!!!!
MinervaGrad10
Posts: 60
Oct 21, 2010 8:12pm
Caturdayz;527573 wrote:I'm not saying Minerva sucks, I'm just saying if they lose to Louisville they COULD fall out.
And Minerva gets fourth if...
1. They beat Louisville
2. Salem loses to Lakeview
3. East Liverpool loses to Salem AND John Marshall
East Liverpool would have to lose twice? we wont get enough for beating Louisville?? just a question now
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SUPER787
Posts: 319
Oct 21, 2010 8:35pm
Crimson and Gray Hair;527892 wrote:Injuries are an ugly part of football. Most teams are compromised to one degree or another at some time through the season. Good coaches and good teams move on and don't dwell on it.
Good fans can do the same.
That might be good philosophy but in the real world of the lower divisions, coaching staffs are forced to dwell on injuries. The numbers come into play. For the most part, lower division teams need their first teams healthy as there are no plug and play substitute numbers to work with. Coaches are forced to dwell on the situation at hand to try to find combinations that provide the timing and the best players to carry on.
Now if you are referring to using injuries as a crutch or excuse, that's another story.
Cheers.
Crimson and Gray Hair
Posts: 384
Oct 21, 2010 8:47pm
Yes...yes it is. (My post was not directed toward any comments I'd heard COACHES make!)SUPER787;527984 wrote: Now if you are referring to using injuries as a crutch or excuse, that's another story.
J-Dover
Posts: 234
Oct 21, 2010 8:54pm
Here's how i would like to see it play out:
1. marlington 10-0
2. Stueby 8-2
3. Sheridan 10-0
4. East Liverpool 9-1
5. Licking Valley 8-2
6. Edison 9-1
7. Minerva 8-2
8. Dover 8-2
Why you might ask?
Week 1: Dover has a good chance to beat Marlington. HOW? Marlington's D is weak against the pass, Dover's D is strong against the run. We all know Marlington's O is running all over the place and Dover's O will throw the ball up and down the field.
Week 2: Dover vs. East Liverpool match up would play in our favor too. We smashed Carrollton at home, and Carrollton smashed EL at EL's house. We should win again.
Week 3: Anything is possible!!!
GO DOVER GO!!!!
1. marlington 10-0
2. Stueby 8-2
3. Sheridan 10-0
4. East Liverpool 9-1
5. Licking Valley 8-2
6. Edison 9-1
7. Minerva 8-2
8. Dover 8-2
Why you might ask?
Week 1: Dover has a good chance to beat Marlington. HOW? Marlington's D is weak against the pass, Dover's D is strong against the run. We all know Marlington's O is running all over the place and Dover's O will throw the ball up and down the field.
Week 2: Dover vs. East Liverpool match up would play in our favor too. We smashed Carrollton at home, and Carrollton smashed EL at EL's house. We should win again.
Week 3: Anything is possible!!!
GO DOVER GO!!!!
Crimson and Gray Hair
Posts: 384
Oct 21, 2010 8:59pm
The combined win/loss record of the teams EL has beaten is 26/29, for Dover it's 15/33. Our Level 2 points(or lack of them) is really hurting us.J-Dover;527939 wrote:East Liverpool gets beat by Carrollton 47-19, who Dover beat 63-14, and yet EL is at the number 3 seat and Dover is the 9th? What? Dover's two losses come from 6-2 Division II teams. EL one loss is to the DIII (4-4) team that Dover smoked! How's that work?
LET'S GO DOVER!!!!
The ECOL is so weak this year we don't have opportunity for many Level 2 points.
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Dover
Posts: 466
Oct 21, 2010 9:08pm
J-Dover;528014 wrote:Here's how i would like to see it play out:
1. marlington 10-0
2. Stueby 8-2
3. Sheridan 10-0
4. East Liverpool 9-1
5. Licking Valley 8-2
6. Edison 9-1
7. Minerva 8-2
8. Dover 8-2
Why you might ask?
Week 1: Dover has a good chance to beat Marlington. HOW? Marlington's D is weak against the pass, Dover's D is strong against the run. We all know Marlington's O is running all over the place and Dover's O will throw the ball up and down the field.
Week 2: Dover vs. East Liverpool match up would play in our favor too. We smashed Carrollton at home, and Carrollton smashed EL at EL's house. We should win again.
Week 3: Anything is possible!!!
GO DOVER GO!!!!
Kinda my thinking too, but have been trying to keep quiet. Its gonna be exciting.
Crimson and Gray Hair
Posts: 384
Oct 21, 2010 9:33pm
I too am expecting to see a Dover-Marlington first round, and that suits me fine.
I'd like to see Marlington play and we might as well tackle the best right up front(pun intended). As good as their running is supposed to be they must have a very good offensive line and that's where Dover will be put to the test!
I'd like to see Marlington play and we might as well tackle the best right up front(pun intended). As good as their running is supposed to be they must have a very good offensive line and that's where Dover will be put to the test!
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Vinqtin
Posts: 13
Oct 21, 2010 11:02pm
J-Dover;528014 wrote:Here's how i would like to see it play out:
... Carrollton smashed EL at EL's house. !
The game was at Carrollton not EL.