Disgusted With Obama Administration.

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jmog
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Aug 26, 2011 10:59am
Bigdogg;874182 wrote:Just not the response you wanted to hear. Speaking of taking words out of context. It happens on both sides.

http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2010/mar/15/republican-party-texas/texas-gop-says-speaker-nancy-pelosi-said-people-wi/
I did not read the whole article so maybe it was a different quote "taken out of context" but Speaker Peloci actually DID say that they have to pass the bill so people can find out what's in it.
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Bigdogg
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Aug 26, 2011 11:29am
jmog;874203 wrote:I did not read the whole article so maybe it was a different quote "taken out of context" but Speaker Peloci actually DID say that they have to pass the bill so people can find out what's in it.
"But we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of the controversy."
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fish82
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Aug 26, 2011 12:01pm
Bigdogg;874241 wrote:"But we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of the controversy."
That's no less stupid.
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Bigdogg
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Aug 26, 2011 1:05pm
fish82;874274 wrote:That's no less stupid.
You mean like the death panel rumor and all the other assine shit that was supposedly in it that Palin, FOX and others falsely claimed was in it?
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fish82
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Aug 26, 2011 1:09pm
Bigdogg;874323 wrote:You mean like the death panel rumor and all the other assine **** that was supposedly in it that Palin, FOX and others falsely claimed was in it?
There isn't any context you can dream up that makes the phrase "pass it to find out what's in it" anything less than idiotic. Sorry.
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Writerbuckeye
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Aug 26, 2011 1:44pm
Bigdogg;874241 wrote:"But we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of the controversy."
Do you honestly believe this quote supports your position? That qualifier at the beginning of the quote clearly says it has to be passed first.
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Bigdogg
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Aug 26, 2011 3:55pm
Writerbuckeye;874366 wrote:Do you honestly believe this quote supports your position? That qualifier at the beginning of the quote clearly says it has to be passed first.
So you voters can find out what is in it. But go ahead and think what you want.
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Bigdogg
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Aug 26, 2011 3:58pm
fish82;874326 wrote:There isn't any context you can dream up that makes the phrase "pass it to find out what's in it" anything less than idiotic. Sorry.
Your an idiot if you think Nancy did not know what she was voting for. Be realistic and stop watch Fox, its making you more stupid. You do not rise and get to be Speaker of the House if your not somewhat intelligent. And by the way, I never liked her and disagree with the majority of things she thinks.
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jhay78
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Aug 26, 2011 4:17pm
Bigdogg;874531 wrote:Your an idiot if you think Nancy did not know what she was voting for. Be realistic and stop watch Fox, its making you more stupid. You do not rise and get to be Speaker of the House if your not somewhat intelligent. And by the way, I never liked her and disagree with the majority of things she thinks.



Have you ever had that feeling that try as you might you just seem to be digging a bigger hole for yourself?
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jmog
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Aug 26, 2011 9:08pm
Bigdogg;874323 wrote:You mean like the death panel rumor and all the other assine **** that was supposedly in it that Palin, FOX and others falsely claimed was in it?
Problem is the "death panel" exists to a point and obviosly the "death panel" was ab over statement. However you can not deny that obamacare sets up a board that will decide on if cerain treatments are economically feasible based on age, health, suvivability, etc.
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Altor
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Aug 26, 2011 10:45pm
Bigdogg;874524 wrote:So you voters can find out what is in it. But go ahead and think what you want.
Even then, the best possible way to comprehend the statement is "I'm not listening to the voters. They don't know what they want. The debate is over. Would you like some water to help digest this legislation while I shove it down your throat?"

Scratch that last sentence. She'd probably prefer to shove it in the other end. Without lube.
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Bigdogg
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Aug 27, 2011 4:23pm
I am sure you all are well versed on all the legislation that comes out of Washington and Columbus.
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Writerbuckeye
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Aug 29, 2011 11:48am
Bigdogg;875241 wrote:I am sure you all are well versed on all the legislation that comes out of Washington and Columbus.
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Well-versed enough to know you don't have to PASS legislation to give the public a chance to know what's in it -- all you have to do is publish it and give some time for people to read it.

Something this president said he was going to do, but then ignored when it came down to major legislation like the health care bill and the porkulus bill. Then all of a sudden it was just too urgent to wait before passing the bills.
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QuakerOats
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Aug 29, 2011 4:23pm
Even the dem's want to dump obama in '12.

http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/one-four-democrats-wants-dump-obama
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BoatShoes
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Aug 29, 2011 5:34pm
That's because BHO is not the liberal you claim he is.
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Writerbuckeye
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Aug 29, 2011 8:43pm
BoatShoes;876669 wrote:That's because BHO is not the liberal you claim he is.
He's a liberal. He may not be enough of a loon to make those who are looniest among the libs want to pull up their skirts for him -- but he's a liberal.
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believer
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Aug 30, 2011 4:31am
Writerbuckeye;876890 wrote:He's a liberal. He may not be enough of a loon to make those who are looniest among the libs want to pull up their skirts for him -- but he's a liberal.
Yes he is. BHO is in way over his head, he's at least a smart enough politician to realize that he cannot cater to his loony left fringe and have any hope of getting re-elected.
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BoatShoes
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Aug 30, 2011 8:14am
Writerbuckeye;876890 wrote:He's a liberal. He may not be enough of a loon to make those who are looniest among the libs want to pull up their skirts for him -- but he's a liberal.
Sure he's a liberal...but I said "not the liberal you think he is." Oats clearly thinks that BHO is a radical, hardcore, anti-capitalist marxist in disguise and that is not true if we are to give any regard to his actual manifested actions and not ruminate about what the man secretly believes behind the curtain.
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QuakerOats
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Aug 30, 2011 9:19am
BoatShoes;876669 wrote:That's because BHO is not the liberal you claim he is.
No, not at all; it is because he is losing - big time. And why is that? Because he is a radical liberal.
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QuakerOats
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Aug 30, 2011 9:20am
But he does have one bastion of support ---- Muslims ..... go figure.

http://in.reuters.com/article/2011/08/30/idINIndia-59043020110830
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Writerbuckeye
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Aug 30, 2011 11:30am
I believe he's the most anti-business president we've had...in my lifetime, anyway. Perhaps in two lifetimes.

The true damage he's inflicted hasn't been legislative -- although ObamaKare is certainly doing its part. I think the true damage is being done at the agency level, where his appointees, who reflect his radical anti-business beliefs, are busy putting together regulation changes that are making economic recovery much more difficult.

Judging how radical he is by his own actions isn't the best way to figure the man out. The people he has appointed to key government posts is probably a better reflection of his ideology. And we all know some of the out and out loons he has put in place during his first three years.
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Bigdogg
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Aug 30, 2011 11:37am
Writerbuckeye;876404 wrote:Well-versed enough to know you don't have to PASS legislation to give the public a chance to know what's in it -- all you have to do is publish it and give some time for people to read it.

Something this president said he was going to do, but then ignored when it came down to major legislation like the health care bill and the porkulus bill. Then all of a sudden it was just too urgent to wait before passing the bills.
Sure you do;) You do know we have a Representative democracy right? You know what that means I assume? We elect people to represent our collective voices. That's just what they did. Get over it.
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Writerbuckeye
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Aug 30, 2011 12:21pm
Bigdogg;877367 wrote:Sure you do;) You do know we have a Representative democracy right? You know what that means I assume? We elect people to represent our collective voices. That's just what they did. Get over it.
He lied. Just like he's lied about so many other things. In fact, the man can hardly open his mouth without telling a lie; it seems to be his nature.

Don't worry, I understand elections have consequences...and I'm very hopeful that his own words come back and bite him in the ass a little over one year from now.
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QuakerOats
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Aug 30, 2011 1:25pm
obamaKare also at an all-time low. Can this guy just resign now ?!?!

http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/poll-obamacare-support-all-time-low
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BGFalcons82
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Aug 30, 2011 2:05pm
QuakerOats;877499 wrote:obamaKare also at an all-time low. Can this guy just resign now ?!?!

http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/poll-obamacare-support-all-time-low
That would be awesome, because Biden could be declared incompetent within hours because...well...ummm...he is. Then Boehner would be POTUS.