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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Aug 21, 2011 5:21pm
QuakerOats;865104 wrote:Record debt, record unemployment/underemployment, record food stamps .............. hey, whaddya say we go on vacation again.........
http://nation.foxnews.com/donald-trump/2011/08/16/trump-obama-takes-more-vacations-any-human-being-ive-ever-seen
Change we can believe in ......
If only W could have served a third term....none of this shit wouldda happened.
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Aug 21, 2011 5:22pm
Man I sure miss W. Never took the law into his own hands...such a law abiding servant he was.tk421;868837 wrote:Yes, I was unaware that the President can pick and choose which laws he wants to enforce.
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Aug 21, 2011 5:24pm
Immigration policy has been horrible since the nineties. You can thank NAFTA for a good part of that.jhay78;868829 wrote:Gov. Jan Brewer always has a little something nice to say whenever the subject of Obama's disastrous immigration policy comes up:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/08/20/facebook-apologizes-for-deleting-arizona-governors-photo-criticizing-obama/
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Aug 21, 2011 5:27pm
At least when Barry lied....nobody died.Writerbuckeye;868297 wrote:You knew it was only a matter of time before his true colors on immigration became more obvious. He blatantly lied about healthcare reform not covering illegal aliens, and a certain S. Carolina Rep. got his ass chewed out publicly for shouting, "You lie" when he said it. Now we know the truth -- Obama did lie.
That and now refusing to deport illegals are just more examples that he's deliberately ignoring the things he swore to do when he took the oath of office.
believer
Posts: 8,153
Aug 21, 2011 6:25pm
Barry's only perpetuating the original lie, allowing more to die, and lied about getting us out. In fact he's added Libya to the perpetual lie.Footwedge;869333 wrote:At least when Barry lied....nobody died.
jhay78
Posts: 1,917
Aug 21, 2011 10:25pm
Footwedge;869331 wrote:Immigration policy has been horrible since the nineties. You can thank NAFTA for a good part of that.
And it was encouraged by certain members of the 111th Congress standing and applauding a foreign leader lecturing us about our policies, horrible or otherwise.
A wise man once said, "If the majority of illegal aliens crossing the Mexican border were potential Republican voters, you can be certain the Mexican border would look like the Great Wall of China". Although both parties have been horrible with illegal immigration, one party has an incentive to flood the southern border with future devotees of their political ideology. It's why states like Nevada, Colorado, Arizona, etc., which used to be solidly Republican, are now either run by Democrats or are swing states.
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Aug 21, 2011 11:23pm
It's funny that W had no problem at all with illegal immigrants, don't you think? And to think he got re-elected. I am personally dead against the pouring over our southern borders by illegal people. Dead against it. But there are piles and piles of these people who vote Republican. Those that think otherwise listen to people like Limbaugh a tad too much.jhay78;869603 wrote:And it was encouraged by certain members of the 111th Congress standing and applauding a foreign leader lecturing us about our policies, horrible or otherwise.
A wise man once said, "If the majority of illegal aliens crossing the Mexican border were potential Republican voters, you can be certain the Mexican border would look like the Great Wall of China". Although both parties have been horrible with illegal immigration, one party has an incentive to flood the southern border with future devotees of their political ideology. It's why states like Nevada, Colorado, Arizona, etc., which used to be solidly Republican, are now either run by Democrats or are swing states.
http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/11/4/203450.shtml
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Aug 21, 2011 11:30pm
I stand corrected. Barry lied...and plenty have died. You're right.believer;869387 wrote:Barry's only perpetuating the original lie, allowing more to die, and lied about getting us out. In fact he's added Libya to the perpetual lie.
jhay78
Posts: 1,917
Aug 21, 2011 11:31pm
Footwedge;869677 wrote:It's funny that W had no problem at all with illegal immigrants, don't you think? And to think he got re-elected. I am personally dead against the pouring over our southern borders by illegal people. Dead against it. But there are piles and piles of these people who vote Republican. Those that think otherwise listen to people like Limbaugh a tad too much.
W had no problem with amnesty for current illegals, but I think he was a little more serious about the border than the current administration. But not serious enough, in my opinion.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Aug 22, 2011 1:17am
jhay78;869688 wrote:W had no problem with amnesty for current illegals, but I think he was a little more serious about the border than the current administration. But not serious enough, in my opinion.
Is anything other than amnesty truly practical? Just do it and be done with it. THEN crack down on the border and make sure those who got amnesty are paying their taxes, and that their employers are playing fair, as well.
Without the illegals, not only will there be nobody to make my hamburger, there'll be no one to pick the tomato that goes on it
believer
Posts: 8,153
Aug 22, 2011 4:16pm
Sounds good but that's like telling the Feds it's OK to raise taxes now for the possibility of implementing real spending cuts later.gut;869772 wrote:Is anything other than amnesty truly practical? Just do it and be done with it. THEN crack down on the border and make sure those who got amnesty are paying their taxes, and that their employers are playing fair, as well.
jhay78
Posts: 1,917
Aug 22, 2011 4:21pm
Deportation is very practical.
Writerbuckeye
Posts: 4,745
Aug 22, 2011 5:04pm
jhay78;870389 wrote:Deportation is very practical.
Yep. If Obama wants some basic stimulus: pay about a million unemployed Americans to drive trucks filled with illegals after they've been rounded up by Immigration. Pay them a good wage round trip from wherever they start in the US -- to Mexico -- and back.
Then secure the damn border, even if you have to use returning troops (or troops brought home from shrinking the US presence in Europe) to man it. Use some well positioned drones in areas known to be used by the drug cartels...
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Aug 23, 2011 9:26am
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2011/08/obama-national-debt.html
The greatest debt-creator in the history of the planet -- what a legacy.
The greatest debt-creator in the history of the planet -- what a legacy.
BGFalcons82
Posts: 2,173
Aug 23, 2011 1:32pm
Remember the call to civility by Barry during his Arizona speech after the Giffords' shooting? I notice he's not saying too much when his buddies use words like Frederica - http://www.theblaze.com/stories/rep-frederica-wilson-the-real-enemy-is-the-tea-party/
Or when Maxine tells the Tea Party to go to hell - http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/maxine-waters-to-tea-party-go-to-hell/2011/08/22/gIQAjgEeWJ_story.html
Or when the Tea Party is called terrorists by our Vice President of all people - http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2011/08/joe-biden-china-terrorists-politico.html
Rick Perry says Bernacke is near treasonous for wanting to flood the economy with money during a presidential year and he's raked, scolded, berated, disdained, impugned, and derided by Barry and his Agitators - http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/aug/16/rick-perry-ben-bernanke-treasonous
I'm all for being virtuous, but it has to go in all directions. Otherwise, it's just political hacking and the next time Barry lectures anyone about offensive political discourse, he will have zero credibility as he approves it with silence when people on his side resort to it.
Or when Maxine tells the Tea Party to go to hell - http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/maxine-waters-to-tea-party-go-to-hell/2011/08/22/gIQAjgEeWJ_story.html
Or when the Tea Party is called terrorists by our Vice President of all people - http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2011/08/joe-biden-china-terrorists-politico.html
Rick Perry says Bernacke is near treasonous for wanting to flood the economy with money during a presidential year and he's raked, scolded, berated, disdained, impugned, and derided by Barry and his Agitators - http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/aug/16/rick-perry-ben-bernanke-treasonous
I'm all for being virtuous, but it has to go in all directions. Otherwise, it's just political hacking and the next time Barry lectures anyone about offensive political discourse, he will have zero credibility as he approves it with silence when people on his side resort to it.
fish82
Posts: 4,111
Aug 23, 2011 1:37pm
I say let 'em spew...they're getting their asses kicked in the debate, and he meltdown is fun to watch.BGFalcons82;871221 wrote:Remember the call to civility by Barry during his Arizona speech after the Giffords' shooting? I notice he's not saying too much when his buddies use words like Frederica - http://www.theblaze.com/stories/rep-frederica-wilson-the-real-enemy-is-the-tea-party/
Or when Maxine tells the Tea Party to go to hell - http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/maxine-waters-to-tea-party-go-to-hell/2011/08/22/gIQAjgEeWJ_story.html
Or when the Tea Party is called terrorists by our Vice President of all people - http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2011/08/joe-biden-china-terrorists-politico.html
Rick Perry says Bernacke is near treasonous for wanting to flood the economy with money during a presidential year and he's raked, scolded, berated, disdained, impugned, and derided by Barry and his Agitators - http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/aug/16/rick-perry-ben-bernanke-treasonous
I'm all for being virtuous, but it has to go in all directions. Otherwise, it's just political hacking and the next time Barry lectures anyone about offensive political discourse, he will have zero credibility as he approves it with silence when people on his side resort to it.
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Altor
Posts: 62
Aug 23, 2011 3:59pm
BGFalcons82;871221 wrote:Or when Maxine tells the Tea Party to go to hell - http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/maxine-waters-to-tea-party-go-to-hell/2011/08/22/gIQAjgEeWJ_story.html
They missed the worst part of the quote by Ms. Waters. After telling the TP to go to hell, she then threatened "And I intend to help them get there."
Sounds like a death threat to me.
Writerbuckeye
Posts: 4,745
Aug 23, 2011 4:09pm
Waters is a crazy, evil bitch. She played a key role in ruining the lives of millions of people with the lack of oversight on Freddie and Fannie, and continuing to push for mortgage lending to people who basically don't qualify.
BGFalcons82
Posts: 2,173
Aug 23, 2011 4:12pm
Writerbuckeye;871453 wrote:Waters is a crazy, evil bitch. She played a key role in ruining the lives of millions of people with the lack of oversight on Freddie and Fannie, and continuing to push for mortgage lending to people who basically don't qualify.
What choo talkin bout, Willis? I thought Bachmann was the crazy evil bitch. :rolleyes:
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Aug 24, 2011 12:09pm
BGFalcons82;871455 wrote:What choo talkin bout, Willis? I thought Bachmann was the crazy evil bitch. :rolleyes:
She is, just 'ax' Maxine ........
jhay78
Posts: 1,917
Aug 24, 2011 12:25pm
BGFalcons82;871221 wrote:Remember the call to civility by Barry during his Arizona speech after the Giffords' shooting? I notice he's not saying too much when his buddies use words like Frederica - http://www.theblaze.com/stories/rep-frederica-wilson-the-real-enemy-is-the-tea-party/
Or when Maxine tells the Tea Party to go to hell - http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/maxine-waters-to-tea-party-go-to-hell/2011/08/22/gIQAjgEeWJ_story.html
Or when the Tea Party is called terrorists by our Vice President of all people - http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2011/08/joe-biden-china-terrorists-politico.html
Rick Perry says Bernacke is near treasonous for wanting to flood the economy with money during a presidential year and he's raked, scolded, berated, disdained, impugned, and derided by Barry and his Agitators - http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/aug/16/rick-perry-ben-bernanke-treasonous
I'm all for being virtuous, but it has to go in all directions. Otherwise, it's just political hacking and the next time Barry lectures anyone about offensive political discourse, he will have zero credibility as he approves it with silence when people on his side resort to it.
Maxine also said she "intends to help them get there". That can mean only 2 things:
1) veiled death threat, or
2) she intends to assist in the election of Democrats everywhere
I'm guessing she meant #2, but can you imagine Paul Ryan, Eric Cantor, or any House Republican of any significance saying anything like that about their political opponents, say, union leaders, or Hollywood, or academia? The media's silence about Maxine furthers the assertion that they are all hypocrites.
jhay78
Posts: 1,917
Aug 24, 2011 12:31pm
This probably deserve its own thread, but it fits nicely with a thread involving "disgust" and "Obama administration".
Joe Biden "understands" China's one-child policy, which of course involves forced abortions, sterilizations, and a myriad of other repulsive human-rights abuses. Now his main point was to argue against the policy by pointing out its unsustainability, but once again Biden shows off his inner doofus and decides to open his mouth:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/08/24/bidens-office-disputes-assertion-hes-ok-with-chinas-one-child-policy-speech/
Joe Biden "understands" China's one-child policy, which of course involves forced abortions, sterilizations, and a myriad of other repulsive human-rights abuses. Now his main point was to argue against the policy by pointing out its unsustainability, but once again Biden shows off his inner doofus and decides to open his mouth:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/08/24/bidens-office-disputes-assertion-hes-ok-with-chinas-one-child-policy-speech/
Why would the bolded words even come close to coming out of your mouth if you really believe "such practices are repugnant", as Biden's office claimed?"You have no safety net. Your policy has been one which I fully understand -- I'm not second-guessing -- of one child per family," Biden said, according to the official transcript of the event. "The result being that you're in a position where one wage earner will be taking care of four retired people. Not sustainable."
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Manhattan Buckeye
Posts: 7,566
Aug 24, 2011 12:36pm
jhay, that's Joe Biden being Joe Biden, he's a gaffe-a-minute. the comment came after a Q&A where Biden mentioned human rights yet said nothing about the one-child rule, yet paints himself in a corner when he turns a question about the U.S. economy into the Chinese economy into a ridiculous statement.
Again, that's just Joe Biden being Joe Biden, that cheeky scoundrel.
Again, that's just Joe Biden being Joe Biden, that cheeky scoundrel.
jhay78
Posts: 1,917
Aug 24, 2011 4:05pm
Manhattan Buckeye;872358 wrote:jhay, that's Joe Biden being Joe Biden, he's a gaffe-a-minute. the comment came after a Q&A where Biden mentioned human rights yet said nothing about the one-child rule, yet paints himself in a corner when he turns a question about the U.S. economy into the Chinese economy into a ridiculous statement.
Again, that's just Joe Biden being Joe Biden, that cheeky scoundrel.
You're right- how that guy is allowed within 10 feet of a microphone I'll never understand.
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wkfan
Posts: 1,641
Aug 24, 2011 4:16pm
And yet....you never hear about these gaffe's from the MSM.......Manhattan Buckeye;872358 wrote:jhay, that's Joe Biden being Joe Biden, he's a gaffe-a-minute. the comment came after a Q&A where Biden mentioned human rights yet said nothing about the one-child rule, yet paints himself in a corner when he turns a question about the U.S. economy into the Chinese economy into a ridiculous statement.
Again, that's just Joe Biden being Joe Biden, that cheeky scoundrel.