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Jun 22, 2010 2:50 PM
See Obama in America we have a court system …and it works
Please send BP an apology for your Unconstitutional Action and Unlawful Behavior…what goes around comes around.
You may have thought you …. tar and feather (kick ass) BP …. But in the end yours will be the trial of true failure

Looks like another trend beginning in the UPSO Administration losing decisions first this one and next Az. ….. can we all spell UPSO FAILURE

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/06/22/federal-judge-blocks-obamas-offshore-drilling-moratorium-gulf-mexico/#content
Jun 22, 2010 2:50pm
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Jun 22, 2010 3:03 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_gulf_oil_spill

This could get interesting. I think it's important to keep those jobs in the Gulf! They have suffered enough-the Administration is doing more harm than good with this ban!
Jun 22, 2010 3:03pm
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Jun 22, 2010 3:26 PM
Doing what is right by this ruling......not bowing to a fringe political group.
Jun 22, 2010 3:26pm
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Jun 22, 2010 3:34 PM
activist judges!!!!

activist judges!!!!

activist judges!!!!
Jun 22, 2010 3:34pm
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Jun 22, 2010 4:16 PM
This will get overturned in a higher court...but this judge and any other judge that upholds this ruling will get to share the blame if something like this happens again
Jun 22, 2010 4:16pm
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Jun 22, 2010 4:55 PM
gibby08;397500 wrote:This will get overturned in a higher court...
Doubtful. BHO was wrong and he and this judge know it.
Jun 22, 2010 4:55pm
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Jun 22, 2010 5:03 PM
gibby08;397500 wrote:This will get overturned in a higher court...but this judge and any other judge that upholds this ruling will get to share the blame if something like this happens again

I'll take some of that action. Put me down for $20.
Jun 22, 2010 5:03pm
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Jun 22, 2010 5:27 PM
gibby08;397500 wrote:This will get overturned in a higher court...but this judge and any other judge that upholds this ruling will get to share the blame if something like this happens again

Not sure, and if it does, could go all the way to the top.
Think about it for a second, the executive branch pretty much passed a law saying companies can't do x. Since this is not a national security issue, where the executive branch is given a lot of leeway, this provides for some judicial review.

Thinking about it a little more, what the WH should have done is set a 30-45 day ban on all offshore drilling. Then, ask for Congress to pass a law to either extend or modify that. Just saying, the WH bans it for no defined time is a stretch of executive power.
Jun 22, 2010 5:27pm
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Jun 22, 2010 5:31 PM
ptown_trojans_1;397595 wrote:Just saying, the WH bans it for no defined time is a stretch of executive power.
Precisely.
Jun 22, 2010 5:31pm
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Jun 22, 2010 6:04 PM
nice to see "checks and balances" work every now and then.
Jun 22, 2010 6:04pm
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Jun 22, 2010 7:18 PM
This will get overturned in a higher court
Worst case it has to go all the way to the Supreme Court, and they are bought and paid for every bit as much as our politicians are. Right now it has a reliable conservative lean, in the past it has been a liberal lean for long stretches. They serve their corporate masters just like the slime running our government, and if you don't realize that by now then there is little we can do to help you.
Jun 22, 2010 7:18pm
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Jun 22, 2010 7:31 PM
UPSO failure ....
Acronym Finder: UPSO stands for Under-Pressure Shut Off (gas supply valve)
Jun 22, 2010 7:31pm
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Jun 22, 2010 10:06 PM
salazar is going to implement a new moratorium rendering this verdict useless.
Jun 22, 2010 10:06pm
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Jun 22, 2010 10:36 PM
Liberals have been irate about the initial ruling all day because Feldman is a Reagan appointee and owns stock in 8 different energy companies according to his last disclosure form. They are screaming conflict of interest, right wing oil schill and all the rest of their litany of attacks.

Salazar is a buffoon, and they will keep playing this game because they are determined not to waste this crisis. John Kerry is supposedly driving the senate crazy with his tone deaf desperation to pass cap and tax climate change legislation, and basically liberals are in a state of disarray. They can't stop the leak, can't get energy legislation, and the courts thwarted their first attempt at stopping drilling. Now there is a mutiny in the military to deal with. It is like a greatest hits of futility for BHO with each passing day.
Jun 22, 2010 10:36pm
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Jun 22, 2010 11:56 PM
Ken Salazar ....... http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37841204/ns/disaster_in_the_gulf

This is how Obama helps America and the American public ......Obama and his Administration are fucking worthless, incompetent, socialist asshole......... killing America and Americans

America ever fucking Socialist Democrat should be kicked out of office and this Undocumented Public Servant Obama impeached ……….
Jun 22, 2010 11:56pm
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Jun 23, 2010 12:21 AM
Belly35;398035 wrote:Ken Salazar ....... http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37841204/ns/disaster_in_the_gulf

This is how Obama helps America and the American public ......Obama and his Administration are fucking worthless, incompetent, socialist asshole......... killing America and Americans

America ever fucking Socialist Democrat should be kicked out of office and this Undocumented Public Servant Obama impeached ……….

The Community Organizer is starting to make Bush look competent as everything he touches has gone to hell recently from the Gulf, to the mutiny happening among his generals, to persistent high unemployment to his openly telling a U.S Senator he is willing to hold the border hostage in order to secure amnesty for 12+ million illegals. It truly is stunning at the lack of outrage being expressed by the electorate as a whole when you consider how big a clusterfuck things are in this country right now. People should be in the streets with pitchforks but BHO is still largely getting a free pass. It is amazing.
Jun 23, 2010 12:21am
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Jun 23, 2010 3:54 AM
IggyPride00;398059 wrote:The Community Organizer is starting to make Bush look competent as everything he touches has gone to hell recently from the Gulf, to the mutiny happening among his generals, to persistent high unemployment to his openly telling a U.S Senator he is willing to hold the border hostage in order to secure amnesty for 12+ million illegals. It truly is stunning at the lack of outrage being expressed by the electorate as a whole when you consider how big a clusterfuck things are in this country right now. People should be in the streets with pitchforks but BHO is still largely getting a free pass. It is amazing.
The press is certainly giving BHO a free pass but even they won't be able to keep their mouths shut much longer. At least one of his military commanders isn't.

November can't get here soon enough.
Jun 23, 2010 3:54am
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Jun 23, 2010 8:59 AM
And of course now we find out this judge has oil and gas investments.
Jun 23, 2010 8:59am
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Jun 23, 2010 9:37 AM
WebFire;398164 wrote:And of course now we find out this judge has oil and gas investments.
Hells bells everyone has oil and gas investment... just to name a few ...Car and Home
Jun 23, 2010 9:37am
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Jun 23, 2010 11:30 AM
WebFire;398164 wrote:And of course now we find out this judge has oil and gas investments.

This has to be THE most lame argument against this judge's decision I've seen.

If you own a 401 K of any kind, chances are almost 100 percent YOU own stock in some type of oil and gas business. That's just the way it is.

Those libs screaming and pounding their fists on tables over this are wasting their time.

The ruling was SOUND and based on LAW.
Jun 23, 2010 11:30am
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Jun 23, 2010 12:02 PM
Writerbuckeye;398412 wrote:This has to be THE most lame argument against this judge's decision I've seen.

If you own a 401 K of any kind, chances are almost 100 percent YOU own stock in some type of oil and gas business. That's just the way it is.

Those libs screaming and pounding their fists on tables over this are wasting their time.

The ruling was SOUND and based on LAW.

Uh, I'm not against it. Just stating that fact. I 100% support the judge's decision.
Jun 23, 2010 12:02pm
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Jun 23, 2010 12:30 PM
WebFire;398520 wrote:Uh, I'm not against it. Just stating that fact. I 100% support the judge's decision.

You just had that Michigan avatar- made Writer overreact a little . . .

But of course we were going to find out what this judge invests in- I'm surprised we haven't heard from the liberal media about a swear word he uttered in 9th grade.

From above article:
White House press secretary Robert Gibbs countered that "continuing to drill at these depths without knowing what happened does not make any sense and ... potentially puts the safety of those on the rigs and the safety of the environment in the Gulf at a danger that the president does not believe we can afford right now."
Gibbs knows that the ban was for all rigs drilling as low as 500 ft., hardly the "dangerous depths" of the Deepwater Horizon rig. That's equivalent of banning the airline industry and all air travel after the first airplane crash in 50 years.
Jun 23, 2010 12:30pm
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Jun 23, 2010 3:44 PM
jhay78;398581 wrote:You just had that Michigan avatar- made Writer overreact a little . . .

But of course we were going to find out what this judge invests in- I'm surprised we haven't heard from the liberal media about a swear word he uttered in 9th grade.

From above article:



Gibbs knows that the ban was for all rigs drilling as low as 500 ft., hardly the "dangerous depths" of the Deepwater Horizon rig. That's equivalent of banning the airline industry and all air travel after the first airplane crash in 50 years.

More like it made me go blind for a few seconds...before I puked in the trash can beside my desk.

Otherwise, everything was fine. :)
Jun 23, 2010 3:44pm
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Jun 23, 2010 3:57 PM
Judge Feldman holds stock in Ocean Energy, Quicksilver Resources (KWK), Prospect Energy, Peabody Energy (BTU), Halliburton (HAL), Pengrowth Energy Trust (PGH), Atlas Energy Resources (ATN) and Parker Drilling (PKD). Are you really trying to suggest that he is no different then anybody elese with a 401K? Other judges with similar holding have recused themselves from ruling on matters involving the oil and gas industries. This is defiantly a conflict of interest.
Jun 23, 2010 3:57pm
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Jun 23, 2010 4:11 PM
jhay78;398581 wrote:You just had that Michigan avatar- made Writer overreact a little . . .

But of course we were going to find out what this judge invests in- I'm surprised we haven't heard from the liberal media about a swear word he uttered in 9th grade.

From above article:



Gibbs knows that the ban was for all rigs drilling as low as 500 ft., hardly the "dangerous depths" of the Deepwater Horizon rig. That's equivalent of banning the airline industry and all air travel after the first airplane crash in 50 years.

Wow, you are comparing an airplane crash to the worst environmental accident in history? You must be joking. The depth of the well complicates the problem, but the real issue is this is the first time the oil companies have had this type of well with methane hydrates. Also of importance is the fact that the safety equipment and plans are at best inadequate, at worst ineffective. We should not be drilling at any depth until we understand what happened and how do we reduce the odds of this happening again.
Jun 23, 2010 4:11pm