I see what you are saying dwccrew but as married to a woman that typically spends $200-$250 a trip to her stylist, it isn't quite the same thing. She goes more infrequently, maybe 4 times a year. Compare that to a guy that goes to his barber every 4-6 weeks. There is also a difference in the expertise and time involved. I walk in, get my hair cut and am out in 20 minutes. On the rare occasions I am unhappy with the cut I can always cover it up with gel. Most women can't do that. Many women spend around 2-3 hours for a full dye, cut and styling - and women's styling changes often. There is more product and overhead involved than simply a clipper, sprayer and scissors, and at least in my wife's relationship with her guy if she's unhappy with her dye, she'll go back and they'll do it again for free.

Do you tip the girl who cuts your hair if she's also the owner of the salon? I used to tip her, but the last time she raised her prices I quit. I'm paying about as much as I want to for a hair cut now. (When she charged $20 I gave her a $5 tip. She raised it to $22 or $23 and I still only paid $25. Right now I pay $25 for a hair cut and don't tip.) Should I quit being a cheap bastard or look for a new place to get a hair cut?

dwccrew;395984 wrote:I do think tipping when just getting a cut is an appreciative gesture, but when some women are paying over $100 for their hair being done, I don't think a tip should be involved. Set your prices accordingly and tips would not be needed. IMO, any job that requires being tipped I just look at as kind of a lower scale job. I'm not saying being a hairdresser is, but I view it as waitresses and bartenders need tips, someone that is charging 100-200 bucks to do a woman's hair should not need a tip.

If you have the money to pay 100+ for a haircut(and whatever goes with it) i would think youd have the money for some kind of tip. AMIRITE?

My mom cuts my hair. Only other people who have cut my hair is my sister and cousin(who's a hair person).

The only time a few hundred bucks for a hair cut is acceptable is your own wedding.

pnhasbeen;395995 wrote:My mom cuts my hair. Only other people who have cut my hair is my sister and cousin(who's a hair person).

I'd hate to see how you tip them.

ernest_t_bass;396013 wrote:I'd hate to see how you tip them.

I tip them with the privilege of making me a sammich.

gerb131;396011 wrote:The only time a few hundred bucks for a hair cut is acceptable is your own wedding.

Or when your job depends on it. How much $$$ goes into a female news network anchor's hair or someone else that has to present themselves publicly on a daily basis....a lot more than a few hundred bucks.

Manhattan Buckeye;396017 wrote:Or when your job depends on it. How much $$$ goes into a female news network anchor's hair or someone else that has to present themselves publicly on a daily basis....a lot more than a few hundred bucks.

Point taken I could see that. But most on TV have hair and make-up artists to hooks them up.

pnhasbeen;396016 wrote:I tip them with the privilege of making me a sammich.

Was afraid you'd say that you tip them with something sexual.

ernest_t_bass;396019 wrote:Was afraid you'd say that you tip them with something sexual.

That's only for pubic hair styling. I'm a fan of the Abe Lincoln.

Anyone stating that a hairdresser makes minimum or below minimum wage is just not living in reality. I personally know 3 hairdressers and they all make close to $80,000.00 annually.

GOOGLE: how much do hairdressers make a year

You will see site after site that states "hairdressers make very good money"; "$100,000.00 a year or more"; "near $100,000.00", etc.

Tipping in this country has gotten way out of hand. Next vogue thing will be tipping your surgeon when you have surgery or your dentist when you have a root canal.

Manhattan Buckeye;395989 wrote:I see what you are saying dwccrew but as married to a woman that typically spends $200-$250 a trip to her stylist, it isn't quite the same thing. She goes more infrequently, maybe 4 times a year. Compare that to a guy that goes to his barber every 4-6 weeks. There is also a difference in the expertise and time involved. I walk in, get my hair cut and am out in 20 minutes. On the rare occasions I am unhappy with the cut I can always cover it up with gel. Most women can't do that. Many women spend around 2-3 hours for a full dye, cut and styling - and women's styling changes often. There is more product and overhead involved than simply a clipper, sprayer and scissors, and at least in my wife's relationship with her guy if she's unhappy with her dye, she'll go back and they'll do it again for free.

I understand this but even with the infrequency, it is still, over the course of a year, 10x as much as I spend on my haircuts. And even at 2-3 hours and charging 200-250, that's close to 100 an hour. I don't feel a tip should be given in these situations. With all the time and overhead involved, 200-250 should reflect all the stylists expenses IMO.

Rotinaj;395991 wrote:If you have the money to pay 100+ for a haircut(and whatever goes with it) i would think youd have the money for some kind of tip. AMIRITE?

How is this relevent? Just because someone has the money to pay for the $100 haircut means they should have to tip?

So when I go to the mechanic and he fixes my car and provides expert service, I should tip him? Or how about when I buy a house, should I tip the realtor? You can see where I am going with this?

There are jobs that make their money off the tips IE waitresses and bartenders. But when you are charging a pretty hefty price for a service, I don't think a tip should be considered. Just reflect what you think the value of your service is worth in the price.

Scarlet_Buckeye;396037 wrote:Anyway stating that a hairdresser makes minimum or below minimum wage is just not living in reality. I personally know 3 hairdressers are they all make close to $80,000.00 annually.

GOOGLE: how much do hairdressers make a year

You will see site after site that states "hairdressers make very good money"; "$100,000.00 a year or more"; "near $100,000.00", etc.

Tipping hairdressers is simply not justified.

You are in the 0.0000000000001% group that believes that. Hairdresses 100% deserve a tip, I am baffled that you don't tip the guy who cuts your hair.

I want to make clear that I am not saying to tip, just that it shouldn't be expected. I know a lot of hairdressers that make comfortable livings without their tips factored in (at least that is what they have told me). If a patron wants to tip the hairdresser, no problem. But it shouldn't be expected is all I am saying when you are charging $100+ for the haircut.

Now when you're paying $10-$20, I think it is appropriate to tip everytime, which is what I do.

About twice a year I take my niece and myself and we spend all day at a local spa in Wheeling. We do the all day package and are there literally all day getting our hair done, facials, massage, etc. When making our reservation I ask for the same people all the time for many reasons, mainly trust and comfort level.

Ease the stress with a new look

Now, this place is only a "treat" day for us, this is not where we get regular trims or styles. So I think alot of what you tip for depends on where you go; run of the mill vs. high-end. This just goes to show what you ultimately are willing to pay for.

For the run of the mill trim and such, I probably will tip around 15-20%. For the treats, I tip much higher.

dwccrew;396041 wrote:There are jobs that make their money off the tips IE waitresses and bartenders. But when you are charging a pretty hefty price for a service, I don't think a tip should be considered. Just reflect what you think the value of your service is worth in the price.

I agree with your logic that just because you can afford a service doesn't mean you have to tip. I'm not sure who decides which services deserve tips and which services don't. But I also don't think the $250 (or whatever) that people pay for a haircut goes to the stylist. It goes to the salon which pays the stylist a fraction of that.

My haircut is $15 and I usually tip $3.

BigAppleBuckeye;396042 wrote:You are in the 0.0000000000001% group that believes that. Hairdresses 100% deserve a tip, I am baffled that you don't tip the guy who cuts your hair.

Count me in that 0.0000000000001%. I tip for tip-wage earners. That's it. It's funny, dwccrew makes reference to tipping a mechanic, which no one does. But I bet his hairdresser makes more money.

How did it ever get determined who gets tipped and who doesn't?

"How did it ever get determined who gets tipped and who doesn't? "

That is the million dollar question, you ask 1,000 people you will get 1,000 different answers, I try to break it down into three groups:

1) True services

2) Professional services

3) Expected services

1 gets tips, 2 and 3 don't. In a nutshell, a true service is something we can do but have others do it for us (i.e. waitstaff, valet parking), 2 is a professional service is someone that puts overhead into their charge, no one tips a doctor for removing a mole, or a lawyer for drafting a will, or an accountant for handling one's taxes. 3 is an expected service that involves something our taxes pay for, I don't tip our congressman, or our trash collector, or even our mailman...they get our money through taxes and a better pension than the majority of Americans will ever begin to contemplate.

A hairdresser is a 1 and 2 hybrid, many people will see it as a profession, on the other hand many people will see it as a true service. I lean toward the latter, ad 999 of 1,000 will disagree with something about this opinion.

Scarlet_Buckeye;396037 wrote:Anyone stating that a hairdresser makes minimum or below minimum wage is just not living in reality. I personally know 3 hairdressers and they all make close to $80,000.00 annually.

GOOGLE: how much do hairdressers make a year

You will see site after site that states "hairdressers make very good money"; "$100,000.00 a year or more"; "near $100,000.00", etc.

Tipping in this country has gotten way out of hand. Next vogue thing will be tipping your surgeon when you have surgery or your dentist when you have a root canal.

I know with absolute certainty that the girl who cuts my hair doesn't make close to $80-100k. Some might make that much, but a vast majority don't.

I know those who don't tip hairdresses already have throwin etiquette out the window, but here is the general etiquette:

Barbers, salons, spas
Barber - $2-3
Hair Stylist or Color Specialist - 10-20%. $3-5 extra for last-minute service.
Hair extensions - 10-20%, regardless of the cost of the service.
Shampoo or other assistant - $2-5 for each person. Hand the tip directly to the person providing the service.
Manicure or Facial- 15%
Massage therapist - No tip if at doctor's office. 10-15% otherwise. If they come to your home or hotel room, find out in advance whether a tip is included in the price.
Electrologist, laser hair removal - Nothing.
Salon or spa package - Determine in advance whether a service charge is included. If none is included, then 15-20% split among the service providers. You can ask for it to be divided, pay each person at the time of service, or leave it in envelopes available at the front desk.
If the salon messed up your service, and you return for a re-do, do not tip again.
Owner who provides any of the above services - Follow the rules above.
The location of the service provider is irrelevant in determining the tip. It doesn't matter if they work in a salon, rent their space, or work out of their home.
http://www.findalink.net/tippingetiquette.php

My haircut costs $45 and I tip $10, sometimes $15 if she does something different that I really like. My husband shaves his head therefore he never has to pay anyone to cut his hair, so his haircut budget has been added to mine.

Scarlet_Buckeye;396037 wrote:Anyone stating that a hairdresser makes minimum or below minimum wage is just not living in reality. I personally know 3 hairdressers and they all make close to $80,000.00 annually.

GOOGLE: how much do hairdressers make a year

You will see site after site that states "hairdressers make very good money"; "$100,000.00 a year or more"; "near $100,000.00", etc.

Tipping in this country has gotten way out of hand. Next vogue thing will be tipping your surgeon when you have surgery or your dentist when you have a root canal.

Not living in reality, huh? I share a bank account with a stylist...and if she is making "near $100,000" without tips then she is funneling some serious jack into a bank account somewhere that I don't know about!

I cut my own hair so...