I
I drain 3's
Posts: 574
Jul 9, 2010 12:23pm
I can understand people saying the Cavs needed to make moves to try and keep Lebron and all this, but it's not that simple. It takes two sides to complete a trade. None of us know what really goes down inside that organization. For all we know, they might have just sat there and done nothing, or they could have been trying like hell to get guys like Bosh or CP3 or whoever to come here. If the other team doesn't wanna do it, there isn't a damn thing the Cavs can do about it. It's not that easy to get star players to come to Cleveland.
The Equalizer
Posts: 1,003
Jul 9, 2010 12:27pm
The other team or the other player. Toronto wanted to trade Bosh, Bosh said no. If other rumors are true, CP3 was the 4th of the olympians who wanted to play together so in a year or so, don't be surprised if he replaces chalmers as their PG because the 4 of them are all buddies.
KR1245
Posts: 4,317
Jul 9, 2010 12:38pm
thedynasty1998;417975 wrote:I'm not saying you aren't a true fan, but let's see how many people are in the stands the last game of the season when the games don't mean anything.
And based on history, the Cavs will make a dumbass move and just bury themselves worse.
Might be true. If I still lived in NE, Ohio I would get to plenty of games. Theres always going to be bandwagon fans. Hell, I'd be willing to bet that the Cavs attendance last year with Bron will be better than the Heats next year with 3 stars.
You claim to be somewhat of a Cavs fan and make comments like "make some dumbass move and bury themselves worse"...........just leave it alone man
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Jul 9, 2010 1:51pm
KR1245;418005 wrote:You claim to be somewhat of a Cavs fan and make comments like "make some dumbass move and bury themselves worse"...........just leave it alone man
That doesn't make any sense. I can't be a fan and criticize at the same time?
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Jul 9, 2010 2:01pm
Literally speaking, no, you can't. Look up the definition of a "fan" and what the root is...you don't qualify.
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Jul 9, 2010 2:04pm
Noun 1. sports fan - an enthusiastic devotee of sports
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Jul 9, 2010 2:07pm
The root of the word?
fanatical-Possessed with or motivated by excessive, irrational zeal.
you do not qualify
sorry
as usual you couldn't follow directions
fanatical-Possessed with or motivated by excessive, irrational zeal.
you do not qualify
sorry
as usual you couldn't follow directions
F
friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
Jul 9, 2010 2:07pm
I've had ESPN on for about an hour, and in that span they've discussed where the Knicks go from here, and also interviewed Wilson Chandler on what it's like to tank for so long and not get Lebron in the end. Who fucking cares? The Knicks will continue to lose games like they have done so forever. What about Cleveland? They're the ones who just went from top team in the east to probably not making the playoffs. At least New York has Amare, which doesn't guarantee anything, but he'll probably still give you 20-25 points a night. Who's going to score 25 points for the Cavs???
Fab4Runner
Posts: 6,196
Jul 9, 2010 2:07pm
thedynasty1998;417977 wrote:That's what I've been saying, but Gilbert is so loyal and has family values, so he can't fire him.
This is getting old. You didn't even think of this point until someone else brought it up and now you're beating it to death.
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Jul 9, 2010 2:10pm
Fab4Runner;418147 wrote:This is getting old. You didn't even think of this point until someone else brought it up and now you're beating it to death.
Nice try, first thing I put on my facebook this morning was how can Gilbert ever go and fire anyone now.
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Jul 9, 2010 2:11pm
and your facebook status is relevant how?
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Jul 9, 2010 2:16pm
How about cutting the player that fucked your stars mom? Or doing something, anything.Grant: "Looking back at what we've done, I wouldn't do anything differently"
Really? The Heat don't care if you are willing to do a sign and trade now that they got rid of Beasley.Chris Grant is not ruling out a sign and trade with Lebron and the Heat
And this is the GM?Grant doesn't have a clear answer on rebuild vs. what moves to compete now
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Jul 9, 2010 2:16pm
ytownfootball;418152 wrote:and your facebook status is relevant how?
Because chic said that I got my point from someone else.
Fab4Runner
Posts: 6,196
Jul 9, 2010 2:19pm
Originally Posted by enigmaax
Yeah, I still never saw a response from CLE fans about the fact that Gilbert fired his head coach and GM. He shitcanned the guy who put together the team and the guy who coached the team to unprecedented heights. They weren't part of the "family"? LeBron leaves on his own and its a cowardly betrayal? The owner just looks like a whiny, hypocritical assface really.
Originally Posted by thedynasty1998
GREAT POINT!
Yeah, I still never saw a response from CLE fans about the fact that Gilbert fired his head coach and GM. He shitcanned the guy who put together the team and the guy who coached the team to unprecedented heights. They weren't part of the "family"? LeBron leaves on his own and its a cowardly betrayal? The owner just looks like a whiny, hypocritical assface really.
Originally Posted by thedynasty1998
GREAT POINT!
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Jul 9, 2010 2:22pm
Posted at 9:11:Fab4Runner;418161 wrote:Originally Posted by enigmaax
Yeah, I still never saw a response from CLE fans about the fact that Gilbert fired his head coach and GM. He shitcanned the guy who put together the team and the guy who coached the team to unprecedented heights. They weren't part of the "family"? LeBron leaves on his own and its a cowardly betrayal? The owner just looks like a whiny, hypocritical assface really.
Originally Posted by thedynasty1998
GREAT POINT!
thedynasty1998;417595 wrote:Exactly! I can't get over Gilbert's comments. Like Gilbert never cut or traded someone without them knowing. Gilbert should have done his job better and he wouldn't have lost $150 million last night.
And no one can deny what Lebron did for Cleveland.
Again, nice try.
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Jul 9, 2010 2:23pm
Fab4Runner;418161 wrote:Originally Posted by enigmaax
Yeah, I still never saw a response from CLE fans about the fact that Gilbert fired his head coach and GM. He shitcanned the guy who put together the team and the guy who coached the team to unprecedented heights. They weren't part of the "family"? LeBron leaves on his own and its a cowardly betrayal? The owner just looks like a whiny, hypocritical assface really.
Originally Posted by thedynasty1998
GREAT POINT!
Go back further
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Jul 9, 2010 2:33pm
Hear this this morning and thought it kind of odd.
Does anyone else think it is a major coincidence that Windy last year happened to buy a house in south Florida only roughly 80 miles from American Airlines Arena in Miami? I wonder if he will be relocating to a paper down there now to be a team reporter given his relationship with LBJ through the years? Some people over on the RCF board seem to think he is.
Does anyone else think it is a major coincidence that Windy last year happened to buy a house in south Florida only roughly 80 miles from American Airlines Arena in Miami? I wonder if he will be relocating to a paper down there now to be a team reporter given his relationship with LBJ through the years? Some people over on the RCF board seem to think he is.
O
OhioStatePride2003
Posts: 686
Jul 9, 2010 3:44pm
thedynasty1998;418158 wrote:How about cutting the player that fucked your stars mom? Or doing something, anything.
Really? The Heat don't care if you are willing to do a sign and trade now that they got rid of Beasley.
And this is the GM?
Actually, Miami is pushing for a sign and trade - not Cleveland. They're trying to convince Cleveland to do it, not vice versa. Moron.
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Jul 9, 2010 3:47pm
OhioStatePride2003;418263 wrote:Actually, Miami is pushing for a sign and trade - not Cleveland. They're trying to convince Cleveland to do it, not vice versa. Moron.
For what purpose?
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Jul 9, 2010 3:48pm
Yeah, Miami is trying to get it done....not going to happen....Gilbert is fuckin pissed...lol
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Jul 9, 2010 3:49pm
thedynasty1998;418268 wrote:For what purpose?
I would say maybe the extra year....and to get rid of some more salaries...who knows.
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Jul 9, 2010 3:56pm
What can the Heat offer? Mario Chalmers? Two 2nd round draft picks? Or a trade exception that is useless when your team is under the cap?
O
OhioStatePride2003
Posts: 686
Jul 9, 2010 3:58pm
thedynasty1998;418268 wrote:For what purpose?
It's not going to happen, but it's been confirmed that Cleveand will not do a sign and trade. Not that the Heat won't do it.
http://twitter.com/PDcavsinsider
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/06/cleveland-will-not-do-a-sign-and-trade-to-send-lebron-away-duh.php
http://www.waitingfornextyear.com/?p=30423 - Explains why it would and wouldn't be good for Cleveland.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Jul 9, 2010 4:02pm
bases_loaded;418281 wrote:What can the Heat offer? Mario Chalmers? Two 2nd round draft picks? Or a trade exception that is useless when your team is under the cap?
I am hearing that they want to trade the Cavs Wade and Bosh for Delonte and Lebron.
Ender Wiggin
Posts: 1,124
Jul 9, 2010 4:04pm
The only reason Gilbert fired Brown and Ferry was directly from LeBron, just like every other decision made in the past few years. At least thats what the rumors are. And not so unbelievable. Ive met Gilbert several times, he wouldnt go off like this unless he was TRULY pissed. I dont blame him, we catered to LeBrons every whim.
And I dont care that he left, who wouldnt? What upsets me is that he waited until the very end with this unneeded spectacle and now all the players we couldve gotten are now gone, thus limiting us in the future of getting people here.
And I dont care that he left, who wouldnt? What upsets me is that he waited until the very end with this unneeded spectacle and now all the players we couldve gotten are now gone, thus limiting us in the future of getting people here.