SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jun 22, 2010 10:07am
Rotinaj;397013 wrote:Those guys VS Sam Cassell could make one hell of an Alien VS Predator movie.
You can add Charlie Villanueva to the alien list
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jun 22, 2010 10:19am
Villanueva looks like that dude from the original "The Hills Have Eyes" and the Motley Crue videos from the late 80's/early 90's.
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Jun 22, 2010 10:24am
Michael Berryman, I believe.
jpake1
Posts: 2,389
Jun 22, 2010 12:59pm
Cavs fans, what would you package together for Miami's 18th pick in the draft? Miami is looking into possibly trading it and the Cavs are looking to buy into the first round. It could be a possibility.
jpake1
Posts: 2,389
Jun 22, 2010 1:01pm
I also just noticed the Cavs changed their logo just a bit. Didn't see anybody else talk about it on the threads I've looked at.
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Jun 22, 2010 1:13pm
jpake1;397218 wrote:I also just noticed the Cavs changed their logo just a bit. Didn't see anybody else talk about it on the threads I've looked at.
I've heard they are getting new uniforms this year too.
The new logo is just the old one with brighter colors. I'll go ahead and post it...
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miller45452003
Posts: 673
Jun 22, 2010 1:19pm
Doesn't matter if we get into this spot or not. We'll take a guy and send him overseas to play. Waste of time and money. Unless they're then in return looking to trade that pick as part of a package deal to get a PG? Could be a possibility.
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Jun 22, 2010 1:40pm
jpake1;397214 wrote:Cavs fans, what would you package together for Miami's 18th pick in the draft? Miami is looking into possibly trading it and the Cavs are looking to buy into the first round. It could be a possibility.
I think Hickson is the only way the Cavs get that pick.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jun 22, 2010 1:45pm
Realistically we are more likely to get collison and okafor for west/williams/hickson than Bosh or a CP3. I would take that trade.
KR1245
Posts: 4,317
Jun 22, 2010 1:56pm
thedynasty1998;397274 wrote:I think Hickson is the only way the Cavs get that pick.
I would hope that the Cavs wouldnt use JJ Hickson to get the 18th pick. I think they would be able to buy into the draft around that position without having to give anything up. I know that Minnesota and Memphis both have multiple 1st round picks. Grizz have 3 and the T-Wolves have 2.
KR1245
Posts: 4,317
Jun 22, 2010 2:02pm
Commander of Awesome;397283 wrote:Realistically we are more likely to get collison and okafor for west/williams/hickson than Bosh or a CP3. I would take that trade.
I agree. I LOVE the idea of Bosh or Paul but I dont see it happening. I'd be happy with trying to throw together a package to bring in Okafor and Collison as well as buying a first round pick. I've heard some experts say that after the first 5 picks there isnt much seperation with the rest of this draft class. I'd like to go after a bigman like Whiteside or Orton if they are there in the late teens or early 20s.
j_crazy
Posts: 8,372
Jun 22, 2010 2:17pm
i'd move West and Hickson for Collison and Okafor. then Trade Jamison and Mo for Bosh. buy an early-mid 2nd rounder and take a back up PG. Try to sign a flexible big who can match up at PF and C. Pray like madness that LBJ stays but know that if not you've got a good team base built.
Starting 5 would look like this
PG: Collison
SG: Parker (though it's not unheard of to upgrade here through FA or some other deal)
SF: LBJ (or Moon, if he's gone)
PF: Bosh
C: Okafor
Bench:
Green
Gibson
Rookie PG
Moon
Powe
Andy
Telfair
Starting 5 would look like this
PG: Collison
SG: Parker (though it's not unheard of to upgrade here through FA or some other deal)
SF: LBJ (or Moon, if he's gone)
PF: Bosh
C: Okafor
Bench:
Green
Gibson
Rookie PG
Moon
Powe
Andy
Telfair
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jun 22, 2010 2:25pm
j_crazy;397322 wrote: then Trade Jamison and Mo for Bosh.
If Toronto's GM takes on that albatross (Jamison's contract), I have a sweet ass piece of land in the Everglades and a stretch of a bridge in Brooklyn I'd like to sell him.
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Jun 22, 2010 2:27pm
This is a joke right?j_crazy;397322 wrote:i'd move West and Hickson for Collison and Okafor. then Trade Jamison and Mo for Bosh. buy an early-mid 2nd rounder and take a back up PG. Try to sign a flexible big who can match up at PF and C. Pray like madness that LBJ stays but know that if not you've got a good team base built.
Starting 5 would look like this
PG: Collison
SG: Parker (though it's not unheard of to upgrade here through FA or some other deal)
SF: LBJ (or Moon, if he's gone)
PF: Bosh
C: Okafor
Bench:
Green
Gibson
Rookie PG
Moon
Powe
Andy
Telfair
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Jun 22, 2010 2:28pm
KR1245;397299 wrote:I would hope that the Cavs wouldnt use JJ Hickson to get the 18th pick. I think they would be able to buy into the draft around that position without having to give anything up. I know that Minnesota and Memphis both have multiple 1st round picks. Grizz have 3 and the T-Wolves have 2.
We'll find out by Thursday if it's as easy to buy into the first round of the NBA draft as some seem to think.
gibby08
Posts: 1,581
Jun 22, 2010 2:29pm
If you think either of those deals would ever happen...I fell sad for youj_crazy;397322 wrote:i'd move West and Hickson for Collison and Okafor. then Trade Jamison and Mo for Bosh. buy an early-mid 2nd rounder and take a back up PG. Try to sign a flexible big who can match up at PF and C. Pray like madness that LBJ stays but know that if not you've got a good team base built.
Starting 5 would look like this
PG: Collison
SG: Parker (though it's not unheard of to upgrade here through FA or some other deal)
SF: LBJ (or Moon, if he's gone)
PF: Bosh
C: Okafor
Bench:
Green
Gibson
Rookie PG
Moon
Powe
Andy
Telfair
jpake1
Posts: 2,389
Jun 22, 2010 2:55pm
It cost Portland 2M to move up 10 spots in the 2nd round. If they set the bar, people will be spending A LOT. I doubt that's the case though.
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Jun 22, 2010 3:03pm
So they are exchanging picks and paying $2 million to move up 10 spots in the SECOND ROUND?
Yet, the Cavs are just going to buy into the middle of the 1st round?
Gilbert will be losing enough money if Lebron leaves, not sure if he wants to throw away some more money to cover up Ferry's mistakes.
Yet, the Cavs are just going to buy into the middle of the 1st round?
Gilbert will be losing enough money if Lebron leaves, not sure if he wants to throw away some more money to cover up Ferry's mistakes.
jpake1
Posts: 2,389
Jun 22, 2010 3:11pm
I don't think Cleveland would have to give up JJ for the 18th. I could see something like James Jones + Cook + 18th for Delonte + Powe + future 2nd. Jones and West would be bought out. Cook and Powe would be kept.
jpake1
Posts: 2,389
Jun 22, 2010 3:13pm
Dynasty: That's correct. Switched 2nd round picks and gave up 2M (it was first reported as 1M). Portland is very active and has the richest owner... money really isn't an issue. Nor is it with the Cavs. I don't think Gilbert cares if he's got to pay 3M to move into the first.
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Jun 22, 2010 3:29pm
Why would Cleveland trade JJ Hickson (young up and coming guy) for the 18th pick? Hickson is already somewhat proven. NBA Draft picks after #15 rarely ever work out.
I could see Cleveland giving them cash or a veteran but not Hickson. That just doesn't make sense.
I could see Cleveland giving them cash or a veteran but not Hickson. That just doesn't make sense.
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Jun 22, 2010 3:31pm
Where are you getting $3 million from? They paid $2 million to switch picks to move up 10 spots. The Cavs don't have a pick, let alone a 1st rounder. If the only thing they can offer is money, I would imagine it's going to cost around $10 million. Gilbert is rich, but he's not stupid.
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Jun 22, 2010 3:32pm
jordo212000;397432 wrote:Why would Cleveland trade JJ Hickson (young up and coming guy) for the 18th pick? Hickson is already somewhat proven. NBA Draft picks after #15 rarely ever work out.
I could see Cleveland giving them cash or a veteran but not Hickson. That just doesn't make sense.
I agree that it won't happen, but that's the only way I see Miami trading the pick to Cleveland. What else is Cleveland going to offer?
BTW, the only thing Hickson has proven, is that he has some potential.
jpake1
Posts: 2,389
Jun 22, 2010 3:40pm
thedynasty1998;397435 wrote:Where are you getting $3 million from? They paid $2 million to switch picks to move up 10 spots. The Cavs don't have a pick, let alone a 1st rounder. If the only thing they can offer is money, I would imagine it's going to cost around $10 million. Gilbert is rich, but he's not stupid.
Do you get more dumb by the day? I thought you were a legit poster, but every now and then, you say some of the dumbest things I've read on here. You have to be joking. Have you EVER heard of anybody buying a 1st rounder for 10M? Teams buy into the first round every year. It usually costs them around 3M to do so. There are a few teams that DON'T want their first round pick. They'd much rather have the very early 2nd rounders so they aren't obligated to pay them for two years.
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Jun 22, 2010 3:43pm
thedynasty1998;397435 wrote:Where are you getting $3 million from? They paid $2 million to switch picks to move up 10 spots. The Cavs don't have a pick, let alone a 1st rounder. If the only thing they can offer is money, I would imagine it's going to cost around $10 million. Gilbert is rich, but he's not stupid.
So...the price goes to 10M if the Cavs want the pick? Get real dude. Other teams need money. Your "everything the Cavs want, or need to do is fucking pie in the sky" attitude is fucking deafening.
Get over yourself.