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Jul 14, 2010 10:59 AM
Cleveland Buck;423345 wrote:He never promised to take the Cavs to the NBA Finals or have the best record in the regular season, probably because those accomplishments are meaningless. He did promise to win a championship for Cleveland and he "won't stop until he gets it". Then he promptly stopped in the middle of a playoff series. He's recruited more players to Miami in 5 days then he did in 7 years in Cleveland. Those are the things he did for us.

For.The.Win.
Jul 14, 2010 10:59am
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Jul 14, 2010 11:42 AM
Cleveland Buck;423345 wrote:He never promised to take the Cavs to the NBA Finals or have the best record in the regular season, probably because those accomplishments are meaningless. He did promise to win a championship for Cleveland and he "won't stop until he gets it". Then he promptly stopped in the middle of a playoff series. He's recruited more players to Miami in 5 days then he did in 7 years in Cleveland. Those are the things he did for us.

It definitely makes you wonder, doesn't it? If LeBron is convincing guys to come to Miami for a tremendous pay cut, I can't imagine what type of players he could have recruited in Cleveland with a far better salary. Especially last summer when the Cavs were trying to sign Artest and Ariza. I know some people are going to respond and say "well who wants to go to Cleveland? blah blah blah," but money talks and apparently LeBron's stardom talks.
Jul 14, 2010 11:42am
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Jul 14, 2010 12:59 PM
Saw this on PD's site on Lowry,

""[The Kyle Lowry offer sheet is] exactly why I have been afraid to look at any move the Cavs are going to make this offseason. Everyone with any understanding of how the NBA works, particularly in small markets like Cleveland, knows that the Cavs absolutely must blow up the team, get as bad as possible for three seasons and hope that they get lucky in the draft by finding a legitimate superstar and two near-All-Star-quality pieces. Instead, the Cavs are offering to commit another $6 million per season to an undersized guard with poor point guard instincts."

Makes a good point. I almost want to lose 60 games this season.
Jul 14, 2010 12:59pm
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Jul 15, 2010 2:04 AM
JJ Hickson put up 34 and 9 earlier against the PHX squad.
Jul 15, 2010 2:04am
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Jul 15, 2010 2:10 AM
Cleveland Buck;423345 wrote:He never promised to take the Cavs to the NBA Finals or have the best record in the regular season, probably because those accomplishments are meaningless. He did promise to win a championship for Cleveland and he "won't stop until he gets it". Then he promptly stopped in the middle of a playoff series. He's recruited more players to Miami in 5 days then he did in 7 years in Cleveland. Those are the things he did for us.

Well said.
Jul 15, 2010 2:10am
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Jul 15, 2010 9:09 AM
GOONx19;424109 wrote:JJ Hickson put up 34 and 9 earlier against the PHX squad.

Not sure what to think of this. Obviously it's impressive, but wouldn't you expect this from him playing against a bunch of rookies and NBDL players?
Jul 15, 2010 9:09am
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Jul 15, 2010 9:22 AM
thedynasty1998;424173 wrote:Not sure what to think of this. Obviously it's impressive, but wouldn't you expect this from him playing against a bunch of rookies and NBDL players?

I think the reasonable expectation for JJ in a summer league game is probably about 20-25 and 8-9. Anything better than that is just beautiful. I'm really happy he's been working hard to develop a jumper.
Jul 15, 2010 9:22am
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Jul 15, 2010 9:26 AM
http://www.nba.com/summerleague2010/stats/

Stats from the summer league, if anyone's interested. There are some pretty quality players in the league, so impressive nonetheless regarding Hickson.

Love to see Cousins is tearing it up! I haven't heard much from Evan Turner, anyone know how he's been playing?

BTW, sorry to get off topic.
Jul 15, 2010 9:26am
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Jul 15, 2010 9:39 AM
I heard that Turner has been awful. It sounds like he had a decent 1st game with 12 and 8 but he went dowhill from there.
Jul 15, 2010 9:39am
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Jul 15, 2010 9:45 AM
KR1245;424191 wrote:I heard that Turner has been awful. It sounds like he had a decent 1st game with 12 and 8 but he went dowhill from there.

For gosh sakes, it's freaking summer league.
Jul 15, 2010 9:45am
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Jul 15, 2010 9:48 AM
ernest_t_bass;424196 wrote:For gosh sakes, it's freaking summer league.

Summer league is how a lot of these guys make rosters.
Jul 15, 2010 9:48am
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Jul 15, 2010 9:50 AM
Rotinaj;424200 wrote:Summer league is how a lot of these guys make rosters.

I bet Turner makes the roster....
Jul 15, 2010 9:50am
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Jul 15, 2010 9:53 AM
KR1245;424191 wrote:I heard that Turner has been awful. It sounds like he had a decent 1st game with 12 and 8 but he went dowhill from there.

Yea I actually looked up his stats after I posted that link. Seems to be struggling a little, which can't be too promising from someone who wasn't drafted off of potential, but off of his maturity. I think a team is okay with a 19 year old struggling a little, but they probably expect more from Turner. Noticed that his turnovers have been high too. Not sure if the Sixers have him playing with the ball in his hands or off the ball?
Jul 15, 2010 9:53am
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Jul 15, 2010 9:54 AM
bases_loaded;424202 wrote:I bet Turner makes the roster....

i wasnt saying hes not gonna make the roster.Just that you have to take it seriously.
Jul 15, 2010 9:54am
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Jul 15, 2010 9:57 AM
Rotinaj;424208 wrote:i wasnt saying hes not gonna make the roster.Just that you have to take it seriously.

I bet Turner makes the roster....
Jul 15, 2010 9:57am
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Jul 15, 2010 10:57 AM
ernest_t_bass;424210 wrote:I bet Turner makes the roster....

Lets make a wager..I win and i get ALLLLLL of your vCash and if you win you get all of mine. Or are you too scared?!?!?!?!!?
Jul 15, 2010 10:57am
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Jul 15, 2010 12:38 PM
Is Delonte West not coming back to play for the Cavs??
Jul 15, 2010 12:38pm
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Jul 15, 2010 1:15 PM
The Enforcer;424313 wrote:Is Delonte West not coming back to play for the Cavs??

He has yet to be released but currently the Cavs sit at about $7 million under the cap. In Chris Grant's presser a week ago he said the team is going to be $12 million under. That mistake was caught by Windy amogst others in that Delonte's $5 million contract won't be around.

Probably looking at any trade options for teams that will just buy him out so we get something in return.
Jul 15, 2010 1:15pm
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Jul 15, 2010 2:52 PM
Rotinaj;424254 wrote:Lets make a wager..I win and i get ALLLLLL of your vCash and if you win you get all of mine. Or are you too scared?!?!?!?!!?

As of now, I have zero :D
Jul 15, 2010 2:52pm
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Jul 15, 2010 3:06 PM
ernest_t_bass;424454 wrote:As of now, I have zero :D

So do i :(
Jul 15, 2010 3:06pm
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Jul 15, 2010 3:10 PM
I have a few real money bets on how turner woudl fair int he league. Easy money, he doesnt have an NBA game, not overly athletic or explosive...and does not have a knockdown jumper as is shown by his 33% overall and 25% from 3
Jul 15, 2010 3:10pm
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Jul 15, 2010 3:54 PM
mucalum49;424352 wrote:He has yet to be released but currently the Cavs sit at about $7 million under the cap. In Chris Grant's presser a week ago he said the team is going to be $12 million under. That mistake was caught by Windy amogst others in that Delonte's $5 million contract won't be around.

Probably looking at any trade options for teams that will just buy him out so we get something in return.

Actually the Cavs are over the cap because they never renounced LeBron's or Shaqs rights.

They still have cap holds for Shaq and the 16 million dollar TPE.

That's why the Cavs still have the MLE, because they're still currently over the cap.
Jul 15, 2010 3:54pm
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Jul 15, 2010 3:55 PM
Rotinaj;424208 wrote:i wasnt saying hes not gonna make the roster.Just that you have to take it seriously.

Evan Turner was the #2 pick, he's got some nice guaranteed money and a guaranteed contract. He'll be on the team no matter what he does.
Jul 15, 2010 3:55pm
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Jul 15, 2010 4:01 PM
Hb31187;424467 wrote:I have a few real money bets on how turner woudl fair int he league. Easy money, he doesnt have an NBA game, not overly athletic or explosive...and does not have a knockdown jumper as is shown by his 33% overall and 25% from 3

Apparently, NBA scouts must have thought differently, to pick him at #2.
Jul 15, 2010 4:01pm
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Jul 15, 2010 4:40 PM
ernest_t_bass;424521 wrote:Apparently, NBA scouts must have thought differently, to pick him at #2.


Yeah, they never miss on players
Jul 15, 2010 4:40pm