SportsAndLady;405263 wrote:Yeah and a lot of players with POTENTIAL have shown nothing to be considered a future all-star, that's why it's called potential. And he didn't play over Varejao and Shaq because Varejao was an all-NBA defender, and Shaq was a big name signee that Brown felt obligated to play. When he was out of the lineup, Hickson played very well for Cleveland...many people forget that.

hoops23;405262 wrote:Not exactly.

IF the Cavs can get Bosh through S&T, it's likely that Bosh and LeBron would both sign the max deals to get as much money as they can and to be able to go forward in building a dynasty.

a 6 year deal leaves Bosh at 32 and LBJ at 31. After that run together, they'd still be able to choose to stay or choose to pursue other options then.

I think 6 years is unlikely, but not foolish.

thedynasty1998;405281 wrote:That's such a big IF, I'm just going to leave it alone.

By JONATHAN ABRAMS
Published: June 29, 2010

When LeBron James starts listening to pitches on Thursday from the teams trying to lure him away from the Cleveland Cavaliers, one person who is not expected to be present is William Wesley, a prominent, behind-the-scenes adviser to various athletes and a longtime acquaintance of James.

Wesley, who straddles the worlds of college basketball and the N.B.A., is widely known by his nickname “Worldwide Wes.” In recent months, there has been speculation that he would play a significant role as James decides where he will be playing basketball next season.

There were reports that Wesley was trying to broker a deal in which the Bulls would sign James and hire Coach John Calipari away from the University of Kentucky. Other reports had Wesley trying to pair James with New Orleans Hornets point guard Chris Paul. The accuracy of these reports was never clarified.

But Maverick Carter, James’s longtime business manager, said Tuesday that Wesley would not play a role in James’s deliberations and would not be present as various teams visit his client in Ohio.

“All the Wes rumors are untrue and he will not be at the meetings,” Carter said. “Wes has nothing to do with where he goes.”

James, Carter and James’s agent, Leon Rose, are scheduled to be at the meetings, which are expected to begin shortly after the free-agency period officially starts at 12:01 a.m. Thursday. James is expected to meet with the Bulls, Los Angeles Clippers, Miami Heat and the Nets and Knicks.

The Cavaliers will continue talking to James in an effort to keep him in Cleveland, where he has played all of his previous seven N.B.A. seasons.

hoops23;405293 wrote:haha, just read that "World Wide Wes" will NOT be attending the meetings between James and other teams on July 1st.

Sounds like Maverick Carter may be getting a little fed up of Wes and the BS he's been spewing.

From the NY Times:

wes_mantooth;405296 wrote:Wes sounds like a douchebag that is in over his head and has no idea what is best for anyone...

wes_mantooth;405295 wrote:I heard on KNR on the way home that the Cavs are still the fav to sign Lebron(according to an unnamed source in the Lebron's team)....lol. This whole process is beyond funny and getting flat out ridiculous...lol

hoops23;405297 wrote:This fits another Wes I know.

BR1986FB;405298 wrote:Was their source "deez nutz", "Rizzo's Rug" or "Reghi's hair plugs?"

thedynasty1998;405279 wrote:I'm not really sure why you are so convinced he's All Star caliber. You know how All Star voting works? The fans vote in the starters, and he will never be a leading vote getter because he just won't ever be that popular. And then you have the coaches vote in the rest and I just don't ever see him as a top 5-6 player at this position in the NBA.

SportsAndLady;405302 wrote: i'm not retarded.

SportsAndLady;405302 wrote:Don't insult my intelligence douchebag..I know how the shit works, i'm not retarded. I think he has potential all-star caliber; you don't. Just fuckin leave it at that.

thedynasty1998;405310 wrote:Okay, so someone disagrees with you, and they are a douchebag. If you would make good points maybe you wouldn't feel like a dumbass. He's shown nothing to make one think he's All Star caliber. Jamison is not a 20-10 guy. Toronto wouldn't bring in Jamison, in an attempt to save money.

You've been dead wrong on here, so don't get pissed at me.

KR1245;405343 wrote: You have become the Capone of the Cavs thread.

thedynasty1998;405310 wrote:Okay, so someone disagrees with you, and they are a douchebag. If you would make good points maybe you wouldn't feel like a dumbass. He's shown nothing to make one think he's All Star caliber. Jamison is not a 20-10 guy. Toronto wouldn't bring in Jamison, in an attempt to save money.

You've been dead wrong on here, so don't get pissed at me.

devil1197;405340 wrote:thedynasty keeps on talking out of every hole.

What coach will select the Cavs by next week, hell it looks like we have our coach NOW.

Now you suddenly know that Bron won't sign a 6 yr deal leaving $30 million on the table?

TORONOT ISN'T LOOKING TO SAVE MONEY. They want some talent in return plus expiring contracts/picks for Bosh. They will take on some contractual money if Cleveland offers it.

KR1245;405343 wrote:Save it. You were doing the name calling a couple days ago. Its not that you disagree with him, you disagree with EVERYBODY on this thread. Its a Cavs offseason thread, I thought I would be reading about Cavs rumors amongst Cavs fans, not some negative prick that shoots down every fucking idea/rumor. I have yet to see a person post a trade rumor without you shooting it down. On top of that you make comments like "I hope Lebron leaves, he deserves better". Go start another thread for all your bullshit. You have become the Capone of the Cavs thread.

BR1986FB;405345 wrote:Ouch.

thedynasty1998;405408 wrote:That's just stupid

BR1986FB;405427 wrote:Why is my comment stupid? Because you were compared to the biggest POS on this site?

wes_mantooth;405477 wrote:On a side note, I really am starting to think that Windy is about as much of an insider as the rest of us douches on here.