They called Kobe a sidekick & replaceable during the first repeat even though he averaged 1 to 2 ppg less than Shaq in 2001 & 2002 Playoffs/Finals but have the nerve to say that Gasol carried Kobe while averaging 10 points less than Kobe in the 2009/2010 Playoffs/Finals. Makes sense doesnt it?
00-01 playoffs
Shaq - 30.4 ppg
Kobe- 29.4 ppg
01-02 playoffs
Shaq - 28.5 ppg
Kobe - 26.6 ppg
08-09 playoffs
Pau - 18.3 ppg
Kobe - 30.2 ppg
09- 10 playoffs
Pau - 19.6
Kobe - 29.2
So basically in a nutshell....in 2002 Playoffs Shaq's 28 ppg carried Kobe's 26 ppg, in 2001 Shaq's 30 ppg carried Kobe's 28 ppg. Kobe wasnt close to Shaq at all. He was a bum. And in 2009-2010....Pau's 19 ppg carried Kobe's 29 ppg. Pau is the true leader & MVP of that series.
Jun 18, 2010 11:23pm
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Fri, Jun 18, 2010 11:28 PMJun 18, 2010 11:28 PM
You know what is comical
1. That anyone in there right mind would compare Kobe to MJ. And this is coming from someone who absolutely hates Michael Jordan. But Kobe will never be on his level.
2. That you go this much out of your way to try and prove a point.
Kobe is great, we get it.
Jun 18, 2010 11:28pm
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Fri, Jun 18, 2010 11:42 PMJun 18, 2010 11:42 PM
I will give you Kobe will never be MJ as King James will never be Kobe.
Jun 18, 2010 11:42pm
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Sat, Jun 19, 2010 1:38 AMJun 19, 2010 1:38 AM
2quik, PPG is a little misleading as Shaq made Kobe's job A LOT easier. I don't kno why you let "Kobe Haters" get to you, especially since people hate on great players all the time, much as yourself hates on LeBron.
Besides, there is one common factor in all these championships for Kobe, Derek Fisher. It's obvious he can't win w/o Fisher.
Jun 19, 2010 1:38am
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Sat, Jun 19, 2010 6:55 AMJun 19, 2010 6:55 AM
newarkcatholicfan;394710 wrote:I will give you Kobe will never be MJ as King James will never be Kobe.
LBJ will never be Kobe? That's good, not every star feels the need to rape someone.
Jun 19, 2010 6:55am
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Sat, Jun 19, 2010 6:55 AMJun 19, 2010 6:55 AM
I call BS on this thread....there are no internet lawls in it.
Jun 19, 2010 6:55am
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Sat, Jun 19, 2010 8:35 AMJun 19, 2010 8:35 AM
I find the whole arguement childish....but so typical of the posters who engage in it.
Obviously Jordan, Kobe, and LeBron are cream of the crop players who are(Jordan) and who are still proving( Kobe and LeBron) that they are among the best basketball players of all time. Each has their own strengths and accomplishments, and plays under different circumstances and in different venues.
I find it comical that a discussion of such stuff has devolved into a kid's playground arguement, bragging.... "my Dad can beat up your Dad".
Really, if you step back and look at it, Bryant, Jordan and James don't give a fuck about any of you guys. Yet people rip or brag on them like they were best buds,
Hahaha.
Jun 19, 2010 8:35am
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Sat, Jun 19, 2010 9:53 AMJun 19, 2010 9:53 AM
The Lakers won the championship not because of Kobe, but because of their size and their rebounding. The Celtics would have BLOWN out the Lakers in game 7 if it weren't for all their offensive rebounds. The only thing Kobe did was chuck and chuck, and his team was lucky they seem to fall right back to the Lakers every time.
6-24, Finals MVP. LOL
Jun 19, 2010 9:53am
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Sat, Jun 19, 2010 10:42 AMJun 19, 2010 10:42 AM
Kobes beastly 40% from the field(31% from 3) is definitely the main reason they won this series. Not other guys stepping up when he sucked.The Lakers won games where Kobe shot 34% and 25%. That says it all right there.
Jun 19, 2010 10:42am
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Sat, Jun 19, 2010 10:57 AMJun 19, 2010 10:57 AM
No this says it all:
Hey sleeper, when do you start your annual fail "Lebron is going to win it this year" thread???
Jun 19, 2010 10:57am
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Sat, Jun 19, 2010 1:44 PMJun 19, 2010 1:44 PM
^^^^my point illustrated......jock sniffer!
Jun 19, 2010 1:44pm
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Sat, Jun 19, 2010 1:49 PMJun 19, 2010 1:49 PM
Somebody better floss with that extra ball hair that Kobe left behind when he let the Mamba teabag him.
Jun 19, 2010 1:49pm
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Sat, Jun 19, 2010 2:10 PMJun 19, 2010 2:10 PM
He's a phony
Jun 19, 2010 2:10pm
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Sat, Jun 19, 2010 3:55 PMJun 19, 2010 3:55 PM
Skyhook79;394840 wrote:No this says it all:
Hey sleeper, when do you start your annual fail "Lebron is going to win it this year" thread???
They must have asked the people in the picture how many women they thought Kobe raped, one thinks two....but the other thinks five....Hmm....interesting.
Jun 19, 2010 3:55pm
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Sat, Jun 19, 2010 5:40 PMJun 19, 2010 5:40 PM
Kobe!
Jun 19, 2010 5:40pm
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Sun, Jun 20, 2010 11:02 AMJun 20, 2010 11:02 AM
Kobe shows up at a 'Kobe's victims convention"?
Jun 20, 2010 11:02am
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Sun, Jun 20, 2010 11:03 AMJun 20, 2010 11:03 AM
No doubt that convention was in Colorado.
Jun 20, 2010 11:03am
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Rotinaj;394832 wrote:Kobes beastly 40% from the field(31% from 3) is definitely the main reason they won this series. Not other guys stepping up when he sucked.The Lakers won games where Kobe shot 34% and 25%. That says it all right there.
The thing about though is when he stops shooting well, he mans up and helps in other ways.
Jun 20, 2010 11:09am
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Sun, Jun 20, 2010 12:13 PMJun 20, 2010 12:13 PM
I think you guys have it all wrong...Kobe can't win without Derek Fisher......lol
Jun 20, 2010 12:13pm
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Sun, Jun 20, 2010 12:35 PMJun 20, 2010 12:35 PM
georgemc80;395375 wrote:I think you guys have it all wrong...Kobe can't win without Derek Fisher......lol
Maybe the first 3 but the last 2 were clearly because of the intimidation factor of Adam "The Stache" Morrison.
