sjmvsfscs08;384454 wrote:51% of me thinks Notre Dame is going to join. They would just have to demand to have Purdue, Michigan State, and especially Michigan on their schedule every year and have all of their games not on ABC/ESPN be broadcast on the Big Ten Network.

If they play eight conference games, they can have Southern Cal and Navy continue. They probably have to say goodbye to the Boston College series (fine by me) if they wanted two different games each year.

If Nebraska, Missouri, and Notre Dame joined:

East Division
Indiana
Michigan
Michigan State
Notre Dame
Ohio State
Penn State
Purdue

West Division
Illinois
Iowa
Minnesota
Missouri
Nebraska
Northwestern
Wisconsin

Now obviously the East Division is loaded, but the Big Ten has enjoyed solid parity recently. Yes, Ohio State has basically dominated the conference, but since 1996 there have only been three years in which the Big Ten champion went undefeated in conference play.

Manhattan Buckeye;385022 wrote: I think many folks are overly concerned about Michigan's current position and sway going forward. They've had a rough few years, and there is some evidence that it may get a lot rougher. The great recession hit Michigan harder than any other area and the university will undoubtedly feel some effects, the university has a good academic reputation but not a reputation of being a place where people want to go. Many alums I know hated their time there. Its local recruiting base pales in comparison with OSU and PSU, and the program depends heavily on national recruiting. At some point having cool uniforms and a good fight song only gets you so far. IMO the sooner they get rid of R-Rod the better, but look how far Michigan basketball has fallen from the '89 championship and 5 frosh starters, that type of program could turn into the Michigan football situation.

killdeer;385164 wrote:without being redundant...this completely changes the face of college sports...primarily football;

the Big 12 is essentially over...
the survivors will run to the Big "10" or the PAC
and the most delicious and wonderful thing...

Notre Dame is left in the cold, and becomes more and more irrelevant every year.
and they only have themselves to blame for their exclusionary and elitist philosophy which has doomed them.
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah. hahahaha. ha.

killdeer;385176 wrote:in other words, debate what everyone knows to be true, instead of rolling a ridiculous "LOL" meme out there.
ND had the world at their feet...they threw it away because they promoted their elitist philosophy just long enough to alienate most.

ND fans...save your alma mater from themselves.

They are clearly lost.

dazedconfused;385087 wrote:i don't have a horse in this race but this would be pretty cool. the east is loaded and that west division is the true definition of smash mouth

rock_knutne;385237 wrote: BTW, how is the Big 12 over? They lost ONE team which can be easily replaced by someone like TCU. If the Big 10 sticks to just adding one team, which is the smart thing to do, college football will not change forever. The Pac 10 will back down.

the_system;385243 wrote:Did you really just say Nebraska can easily be replaced by TCU? Seriously?

vball10set;385253 wrote:I like the idea of Nebraska coming into the Big Ten....and,IMO,the only team in the country who could successfully pull off the "independent" status is Texas--if they chose to do so. That being said,I would welcome ND with open arms,and I believe if they don't accept the invitation,they could find themselves on the outside looking in when the Big East gets cut up and absorbed by other conferences. No time like the present,Irish.

rock_knutne;385274 wrote:Yes I did and what's wrong with that? TCU has been a very good program the past few years

plus geographically it makes sense with the other Texas schools.

BTW, TCU would have given Nebraska all they wanted and more the past few seasons.

rock_knutne;385278 wrote:Who said the Big East is getting cut up and absorbed? This is all speculation, I mean a month ago Missouri was a lock to join the Big 10.......what happened with that?

As for Texas as an independent, they might be able to do it but, what about their other sports programs if the Big 12 is no more........same choice ND would face with th Big East. IMO, it doesn't matter because I believe the Big 10 will not expand beyond 12 teams which puts an end to the stupid idea of these "mega" conferences.

For the last time, ND will not be on the outside looking in, they're just fine and always will be.

rock_knutne;385278 wrote:
For the last time, ND will not be on the outside looking in, they're just fine and always will be.

the_system;384561 wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if it happens next season (2011). I think the Big 12 has it worked out that if you leave you sacrifice 50% of your revenue for 2 years or 90% of your revenue for a one year notice. Nebraska made around $9 million in revenue from the B12, so losing 90% of that would be $8.1 million they are out. But if they joined the big 10 the following year they would be up because they could potentially bring in ~$25 or so and more than make up for it. If they waited 2 years it would be 4.5 mil both years they would be out.

I think it all comes down to scheduling and when the B10 is ready for them. Just another detail that needs to be worked out.