I decided to go for the Sports Management degree. I was completely undecided last year and I said screw it I'll go for Sports Management and see what happens.

thedynasty1998;383221 wrote:I honestly don't know why colleges offer some of the majors they do?

But then again, there are law school grads who can't find jobs, so it's not just the theatre majors looking.

theater majors can find jobs.... living proof. 4 years after college and a masters degree later, i have a full time job

I just graduated and the majority of the jobs I have found are either accounting or Information Systems based. I just now started applying for the accounting jobs even though I didn't major in it.

KR1245;383214 wrote:This is why I'm going to grad school.

My advice would be to think long and hard before doing that, especially if you have to take out any debt for the degree. Is it really going to increase your marketability? Is it going to be worth the money and opportunity cost?

thedynasty1998;383221 wrote:But then again, there are law school grads who can't find jobs, so it's not just the theatre majors looking.

Law students are probably worse off than just about anyone (including the theater majors). There's a huge disconnect between what people perceive being a lawyer to be, and what it actually is. When you figure the average law student comes out of 7 years of school with 125k+ in student loans to earn a salary of $40k while working 60 hour weeks doing mind-numbingly boring office work reviewing documents (assuming the student is lucky enough to get a job, which currently only about half of law students get), all while keeping track of what they do in six-minute increments . . . more often than not, it's a disastrous idea. Too many people either (1) major in XYZ "studies" (e.g., women & gender studies, religious studies) and think that going to law school will make them more employable; (2) watch Law & Order, think it looks great, and decide to sign up for it; or (3) know someone who is a lawyer and makes a lot of money, so they think it's an easy path to getting rich.

If you're thinking about law school, you should do plenty of research and make sure it's what you actually want to do. I try very hard to talk people out of it because so many people don't understand the full consequences of what they're doing.

That's one reason why I chose engineering. Besides the fact that I loved math and science, even now where unemployment is at 10%, engineering unemployment is still around 5%.

When unemployment was 5-6% a few years ago, engineering was at like 2%.

I'm majoring in Criminology. There's jobs you can get with it, but I don't intend on doing anything with my major. I don't know what I'm going to do after I graduate.

Law is one of the WORST degrees to get at the moment. Anyone who has connections with the field of law knows this........talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, to as many lawyers you know or individuals who work in the field and they will have PLENTY of horror stories to tell you about the state of the field of law right now. Enrolling in law school is not the thing to do right now.

If you're thinking about law school, you should do plenty of research and make sure it's what you actually want to do. I try very hard to talk people out of it because so many people don't understand the full consequences of what they're doing.

True story.

Back when I was a youngin', and before I had my own username on the old site, I read a thread(well a post) from FFT about law school, and it was a big factor when I ultimately decided to NOT try for law school.

Thought this was an interesting blog entry:

http://phillips.blogs.com/goc/2010/06/dont-miss-this-one.html

I'm going to be a third year law student, and it is a terrible market right now! My friend was ranked 3rd in his class, on law review and moot court, and he is still unemployed! I believe we had 230 firms come to our campus two years ago. This past year we had 32. If you want to go into law right now, the best option is to have a non-bull shit degree that you can fall back on. I have a degree in civil engineering. If I'm not able to get a job in law immediately, I'll have a job waiting for me that will pay well and provide excellent experience that will make me even more marketable to law firms in the future.

Quint;386486 wrote:I'm going to be a third year law student, and it is a terrible market right now! My friend was ranked 3rd in his class, on law review and moot court, and he is still unemployed! I believe we had 230 firms come to our campus two years ago. This past year we had 32. If you want to go into law right now, the best option is to have a non-bull shit degree that you can fall back on. I have a degree in civil engineering. If I'm not able to get a job in law immediately, I'll have a job waiting for me that will pay well and provide excellent experience that will make me even more marketable to law firms in the future.

Nerd!

Keebler;386489 wrote:Nerd!

The answer to the eternal question "Is it better to be a jock or a nerd?":

Michael Jordan made over $300,000 a game. That equals $10,000 a minute, at an average of 30 minutes per game.

With $40 million in endorsements, he made $178,100 a day, working or not.

If he sleeps 7 hours a night, he makes $52,000 every night while visions of sugarplums dance in his head.

If he goes to see a movie, it'll cost him $9.50, but he'll make $18,550 while he's there.

If he decides to have a 5 minute egg, he'll make $618 while boiling it.

He makes $7,415/hr more than minimum wage.

He'd make $3,710 while watching each episode of Seinfeld.

If he wanted to save up for a new Acura SLX (about $90,000) it would take him a whole 12 hours.

If someone were to hand him his salary and endorsement money, they would have to do it at the rate of $2.00 every second.

He'd probably pay around $200 for a nice round of golf, but will be reimbursed around $30,000 during that round.

Assuming he puts the federal maximum of 15% of his income into a tax deferred account (401k), he will hit the federal cap of $9500 at 8:30 a.m. on January 1st.

If you were given a penny for every 10 dollars he made, you'd be living comfortably at $65,000 a year.

... However...

... If Jordan saves 100% of his income for the next 250 years, he'll still have less than Bill Gates has today.


In the words of Celebrity Jeopardy Sean Connery. . . Suck it Keebler

Quint;386486 wrote:I'm going to be a third year law student, and it is a terrible market right now! My friend was ranked 3rd in his class, on law review and moot court, and he is still unemployed! I believe we had 230 firms come to our campus two years ago. This past year we had 32. If you want to go into law right now, the best option is to have a non-bull shit degree that you can fall back on. I have a degree in civil engineering. If I'm not able to get a job in law immediately, I'll have a job waiting for me that will pay well and provide excellent experience that will make me even more marketable to law firms in the future.

I think I may have posted this before, but the husband of one of my wife's co-workers is a rising 3L at the University of Richmond law school. Nice guy, smart guy, definitely had better school prospects but had to go to U of R for his wife's job. He told me ten percent (10%), of his class has secured an internship/summer associate this summer - paid AND unpaid. He's working for a county DA in an unpaid position - and counts himself as part of the 10%. The rest of the class isn't doing anything at all, at least not law related. Yet somehow when USNews and World Report posts stats I'm sure U of R will post a 90% employment rate....employed where?

Manhattan Buckeye;386508 wrote:I think I may have posted this before, but the husband of one of my wife's co-workers is a rising 3L at the University of Richmond law school. Nice guy, smart guy, definitely had better school prospects but had to go to U of R for his wife's job. He told me ten percent (10%), of his class has secured an internship/summer associate this summer - paid AND unpaid. He's working for a county DA in an unpaid position - and counts himself as part of the 10%. The rest of the class isn't doing anything at all, at least not law related. Yet somehow when USNews and World Report posts stats I'm sure U of R will post a 90% employment rate....employed where?

Did you see the AbovetheLaw article on Duke paying employers to "test drive" its students so that Duke could inflate its employment numbers? When even top-14 schools resort to paying employers to hire students for short-term internships, it's tough to avoid the conclusion that something is terribly wrong with the business model. Law professors and law schools benefit, senior partners benefit, but newly minted attorneys get absolutely drilled.

I think we're probably through the worst of it, but our summer class went from 50/160 (office/firm) three years ago to 7/30 this summer. I feel bad for class of '07-'10 (who didn't/couldn't see this coming), but classes after that had to know that the economy was tanking.

University of Richmond consists of more than just a Law School, that's where the 90% comes from.

I realize that, the stats are U of R law. The TC Williams school of law to be exact.