ZWICK 4 PREZ
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May 29, 2010 4:36pm
gibby08 wrote:
You're lucky he didn't fucking smack you in the mouth..I would have
lol MR. TOUGH GUY
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Steel Valley Football
Posts: 4,548
May 29, 2010 4:42pm
There's where your logic might be flawed. You are assuming a similar rate of rape in the US today as 65 years ago. Do you believe that to be the case?GOONx19 wrote:Yes. Those 90-year-old women were all 25 years old at some point. Growing older does not erase your status as a rape victim. We aren't debating at which age they were raped. Just that they were at one time raped.Steel Valley Football wrote:ZWICK 4 PREZ wrote: Regardless of age, the number remains at 15%. Of that 15%, 18-23 y/o are prolly 4x higher than other age ranges, but the 15% stays the same. Point being its 70% more likely that she wasn't raped. If she was, that's the chance you take. I don't make sure no one drives a Chevy before I make a joke about Chevys.
And if you're wondering.. yes I do equate being raped and owning a Chevy.
So if today you lined up 100 woman aged 80 and 100 women aged 25 there would be 15-18 in both groups who have been raped?
Even though 80% of rape victims are under 30 yrs old?
Mohican00
Posts: 3,394
May 29, 2010 4:44pm
Don't let this guy smack you in the mouth.
Of course I'm talking about Lee Fisher
GoChiefs
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May 29, 2010 4:50pm
Sure you would have. :rolleyes:gibby08 wrote: You're lucky he didn't fucking smack you in the mouth..I would have
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
May 29, 2010 4:52pm
Chiefs.. did you ever try Jays yet? I'm eating some leftovers right now is the only reason I think to ask.
GoChiefs
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May 29, 2010 4:54pm
As a matter of fact..I did. I tried it for the first time a few weeks ago. I'm hooked. LOL Definitely the best up here. I just had one of their taco pizzas last night. LOL Definitely gotta give you a nod for the mention!
ZWICK 4 PREZ
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May 29, 2010 4:57pm
My grandparents use to own it when it was Krackers and Jay worked for them. Jays is still good but he uses cheaper items in the recipe.. I wish he still used what my grandparents used in their recipe.
GoChiefs
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May 29, 2010 4:59pm
Tastes OK to me. Lol Their italian sausages are pretty damn good too.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
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May 29, 2010 5:03pm
Ya he still uses the pressed sausage from meatpackers. Only he really cheaps out on anymore is the cheese and sauce. I believe he uses redpack now where my grandparents used Mids and he buys his cheese from the grocery store instead of meatpackers who gets it from Amish country.GoChiefs wrote: Tastes OK to me. Lol Their italian sausages are pretty damn good too.
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Steel Valley Football
Posts: 4,548
May 29, 2010 6:19pm
ZWICK 4 PREZ wrote:Then you're taking a selective pool and percentages are skewed and worthless.Steel Valley Football wrote:
So if today you lined up 100 woman aged 80 and 100 women aged 25 there would be 15-18 in both groups who have been raped?
Even though 80% of rape victims are under 30 yrs old?
You don't represent an entire gender by selecting certain age ranges.
I never stated a percentage initially, you did at 15-18%.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
May 29, 2010 6:29pm
Google's your friend.Steel Valley Football wrote:ZWICK 4 PREZ wrote:Then you're taking a selective pool and percentages are skewed and worthless.Steel Valley Football wrote:
So if today you lined up 100 woman aged 80 and 100 women aged 25 there would be 15-18 in both groups who have been raped?
Even though 80% of rape victims are under 30 yrs old?
You don't represent an entire gender by selecting certain age ranges.
I never stated a percentage initially, you did at 15-18%.
skank
Posts: 6,543
May 29, 2010 7:02pm
I bet the number is actually higher than that....In the college towns that Big Ben hangs out in.GOONx19 wrote:[size=xx-large]So you're trying to tell us that 60-72% of college girls are raped?[/size] That's ridiculous. And if she's older than that then she was in college at some point anyway. An older woman is obviously more likely to have been raped at some point in her life than a college-aged girl.Steel Valley Football wrote:We'd need to know her age. If she is of college age then the likelihood of her being raped goes up by 4X.ZWICK 4 PREZ wrote:
ok.. provide these statistics that say on average girls are raped more than they're not. That's what you're implying.
A quick google search shows an estimate of anywhere from 15-18% of women suffered some sort of rape. Averages tend to say she's one of the 85% not 15%.
Of course, since I'm so dumb that I can't comprehend that I'm dumb, you can explain to me what's a higher percentage; 85 or 15?
You'd also need to know her views on rape, whether a close friend or family member has been raped before, etc.
Regardless, I didn't imply anything. I said maybe she's been raped before and maybe she has. Why don't you just go over and ask her?
skank
Posts: 6,543
May 29, 2010 7:09pm
Tough talk goes a long way on the internet....That is until you post a picture of yourself with Lee Fisher....And Lee Fisher is the tough looking one in the picture.gibby08 wrote:You're lucky he didn't fucking smack you in the mouth..I would haveZWICK 4 PREZ wrote: My neighbors just got a new chocolate lab that they named Kobe and they were playing with it outside this afternoon when I got home from work. At that point I didn't know the dogs name and asked them what they named it and they told me Kobe (hes a laker homo.. i mean homer). I asked if it was raping a white girl dog when they bought it or something and it seemed to really offend the guys wife.
Oh well.. I thought it was funny. She needs to lighten up.
BTW, thats a dumb name for a dog.
kritzell
Posts: 257
May 29, 2010 7:22pm
ernest_t_bass wrote: My dogs name is Woody. Not after Woody Hayes, but after the huge boner I got when I thought about screwing dogs.
hasbeen
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May 29, 2010 9:00pm
Steel Valley Football wrote:
We'd need to know her age. If she is of college age then the likelihood of her being raped goes up by 4X.
You'd also need to know her views on rape, whether a close friend or family member has been raped before, etc.
Regardless, I didn't imply anything. I said maybe she's been raped before and maybe she has. Why don't you just go over and ask her?
ZWICK 4 PREZ wrote: Regardless of age, the number remains at 15%. Of that 15%, 18-23 y/o are prolly 4x higher than other age ranges, but the 15% stays the same. Point being its 70% more likely that she wasn't raped. If she was, that's the chance you take. I don't make sure no one drives a Chevy before I make a joke about Chevys.
And if you're wondering.. yes I do equate being raped and owning a Chevy.
Your argument is all jacked up.Steel Valley Football wrote:
So if today you lined up 100 woman aged 80 and 100 women aged 25 there would be 15-18 in both groups who have been raped?
Even though 80% of rape victims are under 30 yrs old?
The likelihood of a girl being raped is probably higher during their college years, but that doesn't mean that to know if she's been raped you have to know her age.
Like someone else said, a girl who's raped at 21 is still a victim at 80.
And life is tough, get over the joke.
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Steel Valley Football
Posts: 4,548
May 30, 2010 2:04am
You need to follow closer. The initial query was about why she was offended. I suggested she could have been a former rape victim. He said odds are she wasn't.pnhasbeen wrote:Steel Valley Football wrote:
We'd need to know her age. If she is of college age then the likelihood of her being raped goes up by 4X.
You'd also need to know her views on rape, whether a close friend or family member has been raped before, etc.
Regardless, I didn't imply anything. I said maybe she's been raped before and maybe she has. Why don't you just go over and ask her?ZWICK 4 PREZ wrote: Regardless of age, the number remains at 15%. Of that 15%, 18-23 y/o are prolly 4x higher than other age ranges, but the 15% stays the same. Point being its 70% more likely that she wasn't raped. If she was, that's the chance you take. I don't make sure no one drives a Chevy before I make a joke about Chevys.
And if you're wondering.. yes I do equate being raped and owning a Chevy.Your argument is all jacked up.Steel Valley Football wrote:
So if today you lined up 100 woman aged 80 and 100 women aged 25 there would be 15-18 in both groups who have been raped?
Even though 80% of rape victims are under 30 yrs old?
The likelihood of a girl being raped is probably higher during their college years, but that doesn't mean that to know if she's been raped you have to know her age.
Like someone else said, a girl who's raped at 21 is still a victim at 80.
And life is tough, get over the joke.
However, directly following, I suggested you'd to need to know her continuing on why she'd been offended. Then it went off on an odds tangent and so I brought up age skewing the stats, which it would. That's what I'm arguing now. Age would effect the odds of her being raped.
People are saying 80 yr olds were once 20, but I say the rape rate wasn't nearly as high then and women were more likely married and in the home back then. College settings and alcohol, more rave-type drugs now than in 1930, date rape, etc.
Her age would indeed increase the likelihood that she was raped, and thus possibly affect whether she would be offended, which is what started this.
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Steel Valley Football
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May 30, 2010 2:13am
pnhasbeen wrote:Steel Valley Football wrote:
We'd need to know her age. If she is of college age then the likelihood of her being raped goes up by 4X.
You'd also need to know her views on rape, whether a close friend or family member has been raped before, etc.
Regardless, I didn't imply anything. I said maybe she's been raped before and maybe she has. Why don't you just go over and ask her?ZWICK 4 PREZ wrote: Regardless of age, the number remains at 15%. Of that 15%, 18-23 y/o are prolly 4x higher than other age ranges, but the 15% stays the same. Point being its 70% more likely that she wasn't raped. If she was, that's the chance you take. I don't make sure no one drives a Chevy before I make a joke about Chevys.
And if you're wondering.. yes I do equate being raped and owning a Chevy.And life is tough, get over the joke.Steel Valley Football wrote:
So if today you lined up 100 woman aged 80 and 100 women aged 25 there would be 15-18 in both groups who have been raped?
Even though 80% of rape victims are under 30 yrs old?
I never stated one way or another about being offended by the joke.
Zwick started an erroneous post about the audacity of a woman being offened by a rape joke, which is the norm in our society. My only assertion after that was that it's a dick move. I've made a rape jokes, but I never started a post about it surprised I had offended someone. Of course, I don't need attention like I think Zwick might.
Btw, "life is tough"...STFU with that.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
May 30, 2010 9:31am
That assertion is old and played out. That's the purpose of a forum, to post something for others to read and discuss. You've started threads so its safe to assume you just need the attention huh?Steel Valley Football wrote: I've made a rape jokes, but I never started a post about it surprised I had offended someone. Of course, I don't need attention like I think Zwick might.
hasbeen
Posts: 6,504
May 30, 2010 11:49am
The truth is rape statistics have gradually increased over the last 30
years, according to the Australian Institute of Criminology (AIC),
but that’s not true of everywhere. Surprisingly, in the US, where
pornography is not as obsessively controlled as it is here, the rates of
sexual assaults have actually decreased, from 2.5 per 1000
population (aged over 12) in 1973 to 0.7 in 2002 (US Department of
Justice statistics).
However, regardless of the statistical trends in sexual assault rates,
what we do know for sure is that the number of people willing to
report rapes to the authorities has increased dramatically in the last
20 years. Even today, sexual assault remains the least likely violent
crime to be reported, with only around 15 per cent of victims
notifying the police (according to AIC’s Non-Reporting And Hidden
Recording Of Sexual Assault In Australia) so imagine how often it
went unreported in the past.
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Rocketsfan
Posts: 139
May 30, 2010 12:21pm
A guy i know named his dog Tressel.
That equates to instant douche status.
That equates to instant douche status.
Curly J
Posts: 7,282
May 30, 2010 12:29pm
I Concur Sir.Rocketsfan wrote: A guy i know named his dog Tressel.
That equates to instant douche status.