Wade, James, Bosh and Johnson all to meet.

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May 27, 2010 5:30pm
To me it's the most desirable as well. But who knows.

All of you fools who have bought into him going to Chicago are the same as the ones who bought into him going to the Knicks, then the Nets. How do people not realize that was media created? They literally made shit up to form their argument and present it as fact like LeBron SAID he wanted to go there...
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I drain 3's
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May 27, 2010 5:36pm
If any of these guys decide to play together, I don't think Lebron and Wade are going to pair up. I guess I could see Johnson pairing with either of those two, simply because, well, he's not on their level, and I think realizes that whoever he's with he'll have to play second fiddle to them. I think more likely is a pairing of either Lebron/Bosh or Wade/Bosh. I haven't really read much into this thread, but what about Amare? Any talk of him being included in this?

When you think of great duo's in today's game, it's usually a combo of an elite guard and an elite post player. Kobe/Gasol, Nash/Amare, Williams/Boozer, Jennings/Bogut, Paul/West, Parker/Duncan, and there are even other combo's of a guard and post that might not be elite, but are still pretty damn good.

Basically, I think a combo of Lebron/Bosh or Wade/Bosh would be better than Lebron/Wade. With Bosh, that team could beat you both ways, either inside or out. They're set up perfect to take advantage to any weakness a team has, i'm not sure you could say the same for a Lebron/Wade pairing.
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May 27, 2010 5:42pm
D-Wade and LeBron

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I drain 3's wrote: Kobe/Gasol, Nash/Amare, Williams/Boozer, Jennings/Bogut, Paul/West, Parker/Duncan
But yeah, since it's not "normal" it must not work...last time you had 2 perimeter guys of this caliber together what happened?

And no offense to the greatest duo ever but LBJ/D-Wade is even more potent.
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May 27, 2010 5:46pm
Hey guys, I'm going down to the park to play some ball--there MIGHT be an NBA scout there.

Don't question my basketball intellect.
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May 27, 2010 6:10pm
I drain 3's wrote: If any of these guys decide to play together, I don't think Lebron and Wade are going to pair up. I guess I could see Johnson pairing with either of those two, simply because, well, he's not on their level, and I think realizes that whoever he's with he'll have to play second fiddle to them. I think more likely is a pairing of either Lebron/Bosh or Wade/Bosh. I haven't really read much into this thread, but what about Amare? Any talk of him being included in this?

When you think of great duo's in today's game, it's usually a combo of an elite guard and an elite post player. Kobe/Gasol, Nash/Amare, Williams/Boozer, Jennings/Bogut, Paul/West, Parker/Duncan, and there are even other combo's of a guard and post that might not be elite, but are still pretty damn good.

Basically, I think a combo of Lebron/Bosh or Wade/Bosh would be better than Lebron/Wade. With Bosh, that team could beat you both ways, either inside or out. They're set up perfect to take advantage to any weakness a team has, i'm not sure you could say the same for a Lebron/Wade pairing.
I stopped reading when I saw Jennings/Bogot. A great duo will usually get you far. I think a trio of Wade/James/ and even Haslem will be way too much. You don't need much down low with those two. A guy like Haslem who will hit 45% of his 15ft'ers and play good D on guys down low would be enough.
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May 27, 2010 7:14pm
SQ_Crazies wrote: D-Wade and LeBron

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I drain 3's wrote: Kobe/Gasol, Nash/Amare, Williams/Boozer, Jennings/Bogut, Paul/West, Parker/Duncan
But yeah, since it's not "normal" it must not work...last time you had 2 perimeter guys of this caliber together what happened?

And no offense to the greatest duo ever but LBJ/D-Wade is even more potent.

Since you say it, it must be true. Wade and Lebron have to have the ball in their hands most of the time to be most effective, last time I checked they still only play with 1 ball.
But then again you usually deal in hypotheticals where its EASY to say something would happen.
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May 27, 2010 7:39pm
LBJ would have to dominate the ball if he played with Wade. Im not sure how wade is bc I didnt watch him play half as much. But with LBJ when he doesnt have the ball....He just stands there. Occasionally cuts and Mo feeds him
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May 27, 2010 7:42pm
This is a great example of why you can't have a legitimate, educated basketball discussion around here.

Save the response, I already know what it's going to be--but I'm 100% serious. It's a joke to think they couldn't play together, let alone think they wouldn't be EASILY the best duo in the league.
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May 27, 2010 7:45pm
I never said they wouldnt be the best duo in the league. But to say 2 super stars cant play with eachother isnt exactly crazy.

And all this is an example of, is that you cant disagree with SQ without hearing him whine about it.
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May 27, 2010 7:53pm
No, this is just one of those things where there is only one line of thinking. Has nothing to do with agreeing with me or not, it's very, very simple. The argument that people are making about them dominating the ball is terrible--it's strictly based on them being the only alpha dog on their teams. Between the two of them, only one has ever played with another player like that--and how'd that turn out? And don't give me the inside/outside bullshit--how'd MJ and Scottie work out? It's not even debatable with the knowledge that everyone has now right now--not to mention, team USA is an ENTIRE team of superstars and they play VERY well together and that includes LBJ and DWade playing on the same line A LOT.
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May 27, 2010 8:20pm
"team USA is an ENTIRE team of superstars and they play VERY well together and that includes LBJ and DWade playing on the same line A LOT."

Not until Kobe was on the team and brought the needed leadership. 04 and 06 not so much.
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May 27, 2010 8:21pm
LOL, wait, wait. You mean '04 when they rode the pine because of Larry Brown and '06 when they didn't give a fuck because it's not the Olympics? Won't argue that Kobe didn't add to the team but stop being a dumbass.
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May 27, 2010 9:36pm
well if they are together they better hope they got decent post players or they aren't winning shit
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May 27, 2010 9:37pm
Luc Longley.

And I believe you were one of the ones that called the 90's the best era ever for big men.
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May 27, 2010 9:44pm
he had the best pf defender ever playing right next to him
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May 27, 2010 9:53pm
lets also act like the best euro of 90's didnt get some pf time either
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May 27, 2010 9:54pm
Oh please, as if they can't get a good enough big man. They don't need anyone THAT good. Haslem is pretty good, but there are a lot of serviceable big men--you don't need anyone that great with that duo out on top.
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May 27, 2010 9:56pm
The only thing you'd need is someone down low that could play great D and rebound.
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May 27, 2010 9:57pm
haslem is not on the team
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May 27, 2010 11:56pm
SQ_Crazies wrote: Oh please, as if they can't get a good enough big man. They don't need anyone THAT good. Haslem is pretty good, but there are a lot of serviceable big men--you don't need anyone that great with that duo out on top.
Just give the trophy to them now then because I'm sure every team in the NBA is literally in a panic of the prospect of D-Wade and Lebron on the same team and Z could be that "serviceable" big man that the league was in a panic about this year.
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May 28, 2010 9:14am
Skyhook79 wrote: "team USA is an ENTIRE team of superstars and they play VERY well together and that includes LBJ and DWade playing on the same line A LOT."

Not until Kobe was on the team and brought the needed leadership. 04 and 06 not so much.
That's an interesting point to bring up. I don't really buy into the Olympics argument because it's a sample of 10 games where guys aren't really playing for a paycheck or to sell shoes, but we did see that not always the most talented team wins.
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May 28, 2010 11:08am
Really? A paycheck and shoes? SMH
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May 28, 2010 11:30am
I'm saying when they assembled the Olympic team, it's alot easier for those guys to buy into reduced roles when they are only play 10 games or so, instead of playing for the team that is writing their paycheck. It's one thing for Kobe to take a back seat to Carmelo in the Olympics over a couple weeks rather than over the course of 82 games.
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May 28, 2010 11:36am
thedynasty1998 wrote: I'm saying when they assembled the Olympic team, it's alot easier for those guys to buy into reduced roles when they are only play 10 games or so, instead of playing for the team that is writing their paycheck. It's one thing for Kobe to take a back seat to Carmelo in the Olympics over a couple weeks rather than over the course of 82 games.
100% agreed. I also think they drop their attitudes for the Olympics for pride.
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May 28, 2010 3:16pm
If these guys played on the same team, it would KILL the NBA.

The allure of the NBA to it's fans are these superstars competing against each other on a nightly basis, NOT playing on the same team.

If LeBron, Wade and Bosh all left their teams to go play in NY together, it would straight up kill basketball in Cleveland, Toronto, and Miami in one day. Attendance would plummet, ratings would plummet, and overall fan interest would start to plummet.

True NBA fans don't want to see something like this happen because it's not good for the game. Not many people give a shit about one team, and when you don't have those marquee match-ups like LeBron vs Wade it definitely hurts the integrity and interest of the game.

I'd much rather see these guys on separate teams, save for Chris Bosh, because he's a big, so it'd be alright for him to team up.

But guys like LeBron, Wade, Joe Johnson, etc, need to stay on different teams. They need to build their own legacy, and most importantly they need to compete against each other, not tag along and use each other to win games.