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matdad
Posts: 146
May 21, 2010 10:47am
I want to personally thank President Obama and our Congress for giving us all FREE health care!
Today, my place of employment notified all of its employees that our health coverage is being increased 15% effective July 1st. The reason? "To cover the cost of health reform legislation passed by the federal government."
How in the hell does my insurance cost me 15% more than before it was "FREE?"
Today, my place of employment notified all of its employees that our health coverage is being increased 15% effective July 1st. The reason? "To cover the cost of health reform legislation passed by the federal government."
How in the hell does my insurance cost me 15% more than before it was "FREE?"

CenterBHSFan
Posts: 6,115
May 21, 2010 11:08am
You just experienced the "GOTCHA!!!!" moment.matdad wrote: I want to personally thank President Obama and our Congress for giving us all FREE health care!
Today, my place of employment notified all of its employees that our health coverage is being increased 15% effective July 1st. The reason? "To cover the cost of health reform legislation passed by the federal government."
How in the hell does my insurance cost me 15% more than before it was "FREE?"
yeah... it's that good!

Mr. 300
Posts: 3,090
May 21, 2010 11:19am
But wait but wait but wait......cost were going to go down. Barry told us so!! How can this be??

Little Danny
Posts: 4,288
May 21, 2010 11:53am
You sir are a racist. 
Oh and it's Bush's fault.
Oh and it's Bush's fault.

ManO'War
Posts: 1,420
May 21, 2010 12:07pm
Our company informed us of this exact same thing...ours begins June 1st.
Our cost almost doubled.
Our cost almost doubled.

CenterBHSFan
Posts: 6,115
May 21, 2010 12:08pm
In my best Quaker Oats type:
::: ahem! :::
Change You Can Believe In!!!!!111!!!11!!!!!!!!!!!!111
::: ahem! :::
Change You Can Believe In!!!!!111!!!11!!!!!!!!!!!!111

Belly35
Posts: 9,716
May 21, 2010 12:13pm
Not Hope and take what little Change you have left....
Hey! Join the Belly ...Obama and all those worthless Congress and Senators are just PUBLIC SERVANT ....vote them out come Nov.
Hey! Join the Belly ...Obama and all those worthless Congress and Senators are just PUBLIC SERVANT ....vote them out come Nov.

jhay78
Posts: 1,917
May 21, 2010 12:13pm
I think that's what he meant when he said insurance rates would go down 3000%.matdad wrote: I want to personally thank President Obama and our Congress for giving us all FREE health care!
Today, my place of employment notified all of its employees that our health coverage is being increased 15% effective July 1st. The reason? "To cover the cost of health reform legislation passed by the federal government."
How in the hell does my insurance cost me 15% more than before it was "FREE?"
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/03/obama_you_will_see_premiums_fa.html
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matdad
Posts: 146
May 21, 2010 12:43pm
My buddy got a similiar letter today from his place of employment. He got off easy though, his increase is only 11%.
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
May 21, 2010 12:49pm
I didn't think that it was supposed to be "free" health care.

CenterBHSFan
Posts: 6,115
May 21, 2010 12:55pm
I Wear Pants wrote: I didn't think that it was supposed to be "free" health care.
Right. Alot of people will have to pay more so that some can get it for free.
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cbus4life
Posts: 2,849
May 21, 2010 12:59pm
We got a notice today that ours would be staying the same, actually. Odd.
But, i'm not at all surpised that it is going up for a lot of folks.
Despite my well-known political leanings, i was also completely against this bill.
But, i'm not at all surpised that it is going up for a lot of folks.
Despite my well-known political leanings, i was also completely against this bill.
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oletiger
Posts: 166
May 21, 2010 1:59pm
Just wait for the letter that says: we are no longer paying your health care bennies because it is supplied by the Government. Coming folks
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jmog
Posts: 6,567
May 21, 2010 2:03pm
But But But, Obama told us that our premiums will go DOWN by 3000% (obviously he failed math class on that one)!
You must be lying sir, because there is no way Obama was wrong.
You must be lying sir, because there is no way Obama was wrong.
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sjmvsfscs08
Posts: 2,963
May 21, 2010 2:09pm
I was just talking to a business owner on Tuesday about how his company's health care premiums were increased 25%, and that the insurance company told him to expect another 15% by the end of the year. It was so bad he had to let go of two of his employees. To a small business like his, that was 20% of the workforce.
This law is a fucking joke. November needs to get here soon! (because it's election day and I turn 21
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This law is a fucking joke. November needs to get here soon! (because it's election day and I turn 21

Mr. 300
Posts: 3,090
May 21, 2010 2:28pm
Ours is going up 41%.
Wow.
Wow.
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Bigdogg
Posts: 1,429
May 21, 2010 2:57pm
Our company health care cost has averaged a 10% increase the last TEN years. All the while while the deductibles go up and the coverages decrease. Is that Obama's fault also?
Why don't you have a problem with the law requiring everyone to have auto insurance?
Why don't you have a problem with the law requiring everyone to have auto insurance?

FatHobbit
Posts: 8,651
May 21, 2010 3:01pm
I agree that healthcare costs are going to spiral out of control regardless of who is in the White house.Bigdogg wrote: Our company health care cost has averaged a 10% increase the last TEN years. All the while while the deductibles go up and the coverages decrease. Is that Obama's fault also?
You don't have to have insurance if you don't own a car. It's a choice that you make. And I believe their are alternatives to purchasing auto insurance.Bigdogg wrote:Why don't you have a problem with the law requiring everyone to have auto insurance?

Mr. 300
Posts: 3,090
May 21, 2010 3:03pm
Bigdogg wrote: Our company health care cost has averaged a 10% increase the last TEN years. All the while while the deductibles go up and the coverages decrease. Is that Obama's fault also?
Why don't you have a problem with the law requiring everyone to have auto insurance?
Where does it say someone will buy my auto insurance for me if I don't have it??? When did Nancy Pelosi say you could quit your job and follow your dream to be an artist, and you don't need to worry about auto insurance because it will be paid for by the taxpayers??
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matdad
Posts: 146
May 21, 2010 3:04pm
Don't be silly....I need car insurance so that when an illegal immigrant that Obama invited here hits me and can't pay for the damages, I can still get my car fixed.Bigdogg wrote: Our company health care cost has averaged a 10% increase the last TEN years. All the while while the deductibles go up and the coverages decrease. Is that Obama's fault also?
Why don't you have a problem with the law requiring everyone to have auto insurance?
But by all means, keep hiding your head in the sand. Maybe a huge government will make it all better.

tk421
Posts: 8,500
May 21, 2010 3:05pm
That's not even remotely the same thing. Like he mentioned, you don't have to have insurance if you don't drive and I believe in some states you can have a certificate or other saying you have X amount in an account and that's good enough. Also, all anyone is required to have for car insurance is minimum coverage against any accident and damage that the driver himself causes. Someone not having health insurance is not damaging to anyone but that individual, it's not even close to the same thing.Bigdogg wrote: Our company health care cost has averaged a 10% increase the last TEN years. All the while while the deductibles go up and the coverages decrease. Is that Obama's fault also?
Why don't you have a problem with the law requiring everyone to have auto insurance?

Little Danny
Posts: 4,288
May 21, 2010 3:08pm
^^^ Typical liberal defense. You can't defend the administration so you point at the past. Your argument is analogous to my son defending his action of breaking my wife's vase by arguing his sister has broken it in the past so we should discipline him. That does not fly in the Little Danny household as this does not fly either.
The auto insurance analogy does not work with health care. With auto insurance, not all states mandate you have auto insurance. Many states only require you have proof of financial responsibility (such as an SR-22 bond or a certificate of self-insurance). Ohio is one of those states. Two states, New Hampshire and Wisconisn, do not have any requirement whatsoever.
The auto insurance analogy does not work with health care. With auto insurance, not all states mandate you have auto insurance. Many states only require you have proof of financial responsibility (such as an SR-22 bond or a certificate of self-insurance). Ohio is one of those states. Two states, New Hampshire and Wisconisn, do not have any requirement whatsoever.
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jmog
Posts: 6,567
May 21, 2010 3:09pm
1. Not everyone is required to have auto insurance. Also, only liability is "required", which means if I hit you, my insurance has to pay for it. I am not required to have any insurance on my own car. Also, as others have said, auto insurance isn't a requirement, proof of financial responsibility is.Bigdogg wrote: Our company health care cost has averaged a 10% increase the last TEN years. All the while while the deductibles go up and the coverages decrease. Is that Obama's fault also?
Why don't you have a problem with the law requiring everyone to have auto insurance?
2. We don't have mandatory provisions for "free" or government run car insurance for those who "can't afford" their own car insurance.
I can't stand when people use the "car insurance" analogy, it just shows they truly don't understand. They are comparing apples to oranges.

Little Danny
Posts: 4,288
May 21, 2010 3:17pm
Going further with the car insurance analogy, the way car insurance is sold is exactly what the republicans were suggesting for health care reform. De-regulate the health insurance industry so that it can be sold feely across state lines. Car insurance has plummeted because markets have been flooded with a number of carriers. If a smaller pool of carriers only have the right to sell in a particular state, they can charge whatever they want because the consumer have limited choices. However, if there are options, insurers will lower their premiums to beat out their competition. What's more, the policies become broader in coverage because the carriers attempt to add services to distinguish themselves from the competition.
How do you think Geico and Progressive got so big in the past decade? In the old days it was State Farm, Nationwide and Allstate. People did not have many other choices. Geico started cutting prices, offering 24/7 claim service and the like. As a result gobbled up the market. The larger companies had to respond by lowering their prices, opening up their offices 24/7 and increasing their advertisement and services.
How do you think Geico and Progressive got so big in the past decade? In the old days it was State Farm, Nationwide and Allstate. People did not have many other choices. Geico started cutting prices, offering 24/7 claim service and the like. As a result gobbled up the market. The larger companies had to respond by lowering their prices, opening up their offices 24/7 and increasing their advertisement and services.
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
May 21, 2010 3:18pm
I can tell very few of you have ever been self-employed/ run a small business if you think having your contribution increase by 10-15% is alot.
25-40% year over year premium increases are the norm (and paid for with post tax dollars) when you get an individual policy or cover a few employees. Welcome to the pain and misery all of us have been enjoying for years now.
25-40% year over year premium increases are the norm (and paid for with post tax dollars) when you get an individual policy or cover a few employees. Welcome to the pain and misery all of us have been enjoying for years now.