We have created LIFE!

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BCSbunk
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May 21, 2010 12:34am
Scientists in the US have succeeded in developing the first synthetic living cell.
Only a matter of time.

Evolution is fact.

Abiogenesis is being figured out.

Now life..... Science is amazing.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/mobile/science_and_environment/10132762.stm?SThisFB
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TBone14
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May 21, 2010 12:57am
It is incredible how much progress has been made in the last century in terms of science, medicine, and technology. I often wonder if we hit the proverbial wall in terms of advancement in some aspects or will progress continue to advance exponentially. I would have thought after Full 1080P HD TVs..how much better can these really get? Now 3D Tvs...makes me wonder about the what could possibly be in store in the future.
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BCSbunk
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May 21, 2010 1:07am
TBone14 wrote: It is incredible how much progress has been made in the last century in terms of science, medicine, and technology. I often wonder if we hit the proverbial wall in terms of advancement in some aspects or will progress continue to advance exponentially. I would have thought after Full 1080P HD TVs..how much better can these really get? Now 3D Tvs...makes me wonder about the what could possibly be in store in the future.
No they are working on interstellar travel and lots more.

If we could get the religious right off our backs we could make much more progress.
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darbypitcher22
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May 21, 2010 1:08am
that's pretty bad ass... I'm not gonna lie
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Mooney44Cards
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May 21, 2010 1:16am
TBone14 wrote: It is incredible how much progress has been made in the last century in terms of science, medicine, and technology. I often wonder if we hit the proverbial wall in terms of advancement in some aspects or will progress continue to advance exponentially. I would have thought after Full 1080P HD TVs..how much better can these really get? Now 3D Tvs...makes me wonder about the what could possibly be in store in the future.
3DTV is a gimmick. I wouldn't really call it "advancement". 4K x 2K is advancement.
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ts1227
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May 21, 2010 1:16am
In before the jeebus freaks end up getting this thread closed
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TBone14
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May 21, 2010 1:35am
Mooney44Cards wrote:
TBone14 wrote: It is incredible how much progress has been made in the last century in terms of science, medicine, and technology. I often wonder if we hit the proverbial wall in terms of advancement in some aspects or will progress continue to advance exponentially. I would have thought after Full 1080P HD TVs..how much better can these really get? Now 3D Tvs...makes me wonder about the what could possibly be in store in the future.
3DTV is a gimmick. I wouldn't really call it "advancement". 4K x 2K is advancement.
Fair enough. I was looking for a revelant example to follow up on my HD TV example. Anyways..have you every just sat and looked at an expensive HDTV, hooked up with quality cables and just thought..how in the world can this possibly look better. It looks better than real life.
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May 21, 2010 1:37am
BCSbunk wrote:
TBone14 wrote: It is incredible how much progress has been made in the last century in terms of science, medicine, and technology. I often wonder if we hit the proverbial wall in terms of advancement in some aspects or will progress continue to advance exponentially. I would have thought after Full 1080P HD TVs..how much better can these really get? Now 3D Tvs...makes me wonder about the what could possibly be in store in the future.
No they are working on interstellar travel and lots more.
I will own a first gen or possibly a prototype jetpack when that comes to fruition. I'm PUMPED for jetpacks.
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May 21, 2010 2:00am
I created life as well. I inserted my penis into a vagina and 9 months later I had life.

Amazing.
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May 21, 2010 2:03am
ts1227 wrote: In before the jeebus freaks end up getting this thread closed
Don't think there are too many on here.

Now there's this other site I know....:)
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Pup
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May 21, 2010 3:18am
Science= God... The more educated one becomes the sooner he realizes this...
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May 21, 2010 3:32am
Pup wrote: Science= God... The more educated one becomes the sooner he realizes this...
Indeed. The siren song of religion is the same sort of "some stuff can't be explained" concept that caused the ICP to ponder how magnets work (not as idiotic, but in the same general field). The more advanced scientific fields of learning become, the more of these mysteries of nature will be solved. With answers that don't involve fictional deities that exist in some mystical dimension inaccessible to us (at least before we die and supposedly are subjected to some mystical afterlife determined by our faith in said fictional deity...or plural...existing in said mystical dimension inaccessible to us). WWJD???? (What Would Jupiter Do????...since the Roman rip-off of the Greek Zeus is as legit as any current deity).
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May 21, 2010 6:28am
Cool. I don't think it completely rules out creationism.
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May 21, 2010 7:27am
ernest_t_bass wrote: Cool. I don't think it completely rules out creationism.
Right, cuz common sense and science already ruled that out about 150 years ago.
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May 21, 2010 7:35am
Hi, my name is opinion. Nice to meet you.
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May 21, 2010 8:45am
ernest_t_bass wrote: Hi, my name is opinion. Nice to meet you.
When an opinion goes against all scientific fact, it is nothing more than a fairy tale.

Christianity: where they pick and choose which science to believe and which to ignore.
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buckeyefalls
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May 21, 2010 8:47am
"We" have created life? I don't think so. This doesn't prove anything. How did the first "life" get "life" then?

Hmm...

Oh yeah, it was that Big Bang that miraculously just produced life. I get it now.

Whether you believe we came from evolutionary products or from the first "man" you still have to prove where life came from originally.
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May 21, 2010 8:48am
You - What's your favorite color?
Me - Red
You - WRONG!
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WebFire
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May 21, 2010 8:49am
This should be fun. **Grabs coffee**
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May 21, 2010 8:50am
Mooney44Cards wrote: When an opinion goes against all scientific fact, it is nothing more than a fairy tale.
If there was real scientific fact, then there wouldn't be an argument.
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ernest_t_bass
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May 21, 2010 8:57am
WebFire wrote: This should be fun. **Grabs coffee**
Grab a small cup. I don't care to argue. I can see all sides of the argument, and I can see how all sides could be true. I don't feel the need to shoot down anyone's beliefs.

I can see how creationism can be viewed as "far fetched." I really, honestly can see that. I'm not here to argue my case. I have faith in it. Some people have faith, some don't. I do.
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jmog
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May 21, 2010 8:59am
BCSbunk wrote:
Scientists in the US have succeeded in developing the first synthetic living cell.
Only a matter of time.

Evolution is fact.

Abiogenesis is being figured out.

Now life..... Science is amazing.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/mobile/science_and_environment/10132762.stm?SThisFB
Did you actually read the article? By your comments you OBVIOUSLY have not.

They created synthetic DNA and implanted it into an already existing "host cell". While obviously very novel, very useful, very "ground breaking", it has nothing to do with evolution and abiogenesis.

They weren't even attempting at discovering anything about proteins to single cell idea of abiogenesis. They weren't even doing anything with regards to evolution. They didn't start at "amino acids" and "by chance" create a single cell which is what your view of the first life obviously is. They synthetically created DNA, just like one could with any long string polymer or protein, and implanted it into an already existing cell. I'm fully aware that DNA is much harder to synthesize than any other compound, that's the novel part of this. But for you to come on here saying this proves proteins to life abiogenesis is true is ignorant at best.

Good Lord BCS, sometimes you amaze me at how retarded your posts actually can be.
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jmog
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May 21, 2010 9:01am
Mooney44Cards wrote:
ernest_t_bass wrote: Cool. I don't think it completely rules out creationism.
Right, cuz common sense and science already ruled that out about 150 years ago.
100% false.
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jmog
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May 21, 2010 9:02am
Mooney44Cards wrote:
ernest_t_bass wrote: Hi, my name is opinion. Nice to meet you.
When an opinion goes against all scientific fact, it is nothing more than a fairy tale.

Christianity: where they pick and choose which science to believe and which to ignore.
This should be fun, show me the scientific "fact" that proves this.
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May 21, 2010 9:10am
that depends on your affiliation...