
sherm03
Posts: 7,349
May 17, 2010 8:07pm
That would work...except that they never actually pulled the prank. The cops got there before the kids could actually pull off the prank.sonofsam wrote:I like this.Belly35 wrote: If I was the Judge ( Judge Belly) ...I would make each kid move one book at a time back to the library and lick the out side binding before putting it back ...if they did get an education in school they could get a taste of real life now.
I would also make the all clean and wash each class room in that school .... that way they would be getting a clean break from the school....
Basically, I think the punishment should fit the crime. And a senior prank doesn't warrant felony charges. Misdemeanor...MAYBE. School discipline...ABSOLUTELY!

Jughead
Posts: 1,261
May 17, 2010 9:08pm
To me, it sounds that if the students are charged, it could ruin the school as well.
“This makes me think, do I really want to send my kids here when they reach the ninth grade.”
Privately, Lockland school officials confirm that the controversy and negative national publicity couldn’t have come at a worse time. The tiny, cash-strapped district is about to send out hundreds of post cards to families who live outside the district trying to convince them to enroll.
Lockland has been an open enrollment district since 2003. Nearly one in five of its 685 students lives outside the district and brings in state funding.
Also, Lockland’s school board is considering putting an operating levy on the November ballot.

Cat Food Flambe'
Posts: 1,230
May 17, 2010 9:57pm
They'll probably be - and should be - indicted - that doesn't take much, and should sufficiently scare the hell out of them. I would think the charges will [rightfully] be knocked down from felonies in court - a lot depends upon what the local cops defined as "resisting arrest".
Half their students go to vocational school? Wow.
The only part that chaps me are the parents that think their little darlings shouldn't be prosecuted because they're "college-bound and athletes". Does this mean that some kid who isn't a jock and plans on joining the military after graduation is fair game?
Half their students go to vocational school? Wow.
The only part that chaps me are the parents that think their little darlings shouldn't be prosecuted because they're "college-bound and athletes". Does this mean that some kid who isn't a jock and plans on joining the military after graduation is fair game?
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
May 17, 2010 11:03pm
That type of thinking costs society a whole lot of money. And grief.tk421 wrote: Charge them. Stupid stuff like this deserves to be punished. Seriously, what is the big deal with the senior prank? When did this stupid idea take hold? If these students were stupid enough to commit breaking and entering and then flee from the police, they deserve to have their lives ruined. Whining that it was just a prank should have no bearing on the case.
Not worth ruining kids lives over.
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
May 17, 2010 11:04pm
Resist probably means "ran away", no?darbypitcher22 wrote: i'm gonna ssume it wasn't a big deal until 12 of them decided to resist.... that's when things got testy...

sherm03
Posts: 7,349
May 17, 2010 11:12pm
That's what a few people were saying is the reasoning for charging these kids with a felony. Listening to the radio today, a lot of people feel that the city wanted the felony charge so that the county picked up the bill for the 18 hours they spent in jail in addition to paying for the cost of the trial. If they were charged with a misdemeanor...it would have been a burden on the cash-strapped town. I'm not saying that is the reason for the felony charge...but a lot of people around the city believe it is.I Wear Pants wrote: That type of thinking costs society a whole lot of money. And grief.
Not worth ruining kids lives over.
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
May 17, 2010 11:20pm
Then whoever made that call is a gigantic tool.
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bwcomet89
Posts: 633
May 18, 2010 12:26am
A few, ahem, other guys broke in to our school my senior year and crisco'ed all the door handles, lockers and some walls and floors. All members got off scotch free, and it's not like who did it was a mystery.
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
May 18, 2010 1:26am
That's the thing. They weren't trying to do something that would be hard to fix. Just trying to do something so the administration could say "damn it, you kids got us!".
They weren't trying to steal anything and they weren't trying to break/ruin/graffiti anything. Give them some community service since they got caught and go on your way.
Fucking people.
They weren't trying to steal anything and they weren't trying to break/ruin/graffiti anything. Give them some community service since they got caught and go on your way.
Fucking people.

Sykotyk
Posts: 1,155
May 18, 2010 1:28am
So, a crime is okay as long as it's for fun? So, would breaking and entering your house, and assembling your living room on your back patio be okay then?
Maybe if we actually cracked down on the problem they wouldn't think this was a fun thing to do?....
Sykotyk
Maybe if we actually cracked down on the problem they wouldn't think this was a fun thing to do?....
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
May 18, 2010 1:37am
It's a fugging senior prank.
There isn't a problem.
It becomes a problem if they do it to someones house or anytime that isn't their senior year. Or if they do it multiple times. It's a senior prank.
If you think prosecuting 20% of a graduating class including the valedictorian is a good idea then you're an idiot. Hands down, no questions asked. It benefits no one to prosecute them. Costs the state, county, school, kids, and parents a hell of a lot more time, money, and grief to prosecute them. Especially when you consider the difficulties these kids will then have getting into schools or finding jobs.
Give them community service and maybe probation. It benefits the community by picking up litter or helping at a park or whatever and the probation tells them that you're serious about them not doing something similar again.
This isn't brain surgery guys.
There isn't a problem.
It becomes a problem if they do it to someones house or anytime that isn't their senior year. Or if they do it multiple times. It's a senior prank.
If you think prosecuting 20% of a graduating class including the valedictorian is a good idea then you're an idiot. Hands down, no questions asked. It benefits no one to prosecute them. Costs the state, county, school, kids, and parents a hell of a lot more time, money, and grief to prosecute them. Especially when you consider the difficulties these kids will then have getting into schools or finding jobs.
Give them community service and maybe probation. It benefits the community by picking up litter or helping at a park or whatever and the probation tells them that you're serious about them not doing something similar again.
This isn't brain surgery guys.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
May 18, 2010 7:52am
bwcomet89 wrote: ... All members got off scotch free, and it's not like who did it was a mystery.
Scotch free????
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cbus4life
Posts: 2,849
May 18, 2010 9:28am
lolbwcomet89 wrote: A few, ahem, other guys broke in to our school my senior year and crisco'ed all the door handles, lockers and some walls and floors. All members got off scotch free, and it's not like who did it was a mystery.

The Equalizer
Posts: 1,003
May 18, 2010 9:35am
Ah, the french benefits of teenage crime
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
May 18, 2010 10:19am
I'm surprised any Seniors from Lockland knew where the library was located.

darbypitcher22
Posts: 8,000
May 18, 2010 10:38am
most senior pranks are fine.
Ths one involved breaking and entering. That's where the line was crossed.
I'm not saying they need to go to jail, but something has to be done
Ths one involved breaking and entering. That's where the line was crossed.
I'm not saying they need to go to jail, but something has to be done

GOONx19
Posts: 7,147
May 18, 2010 10:40am
^ Most senior pranks involve breaking and entering. Most senior pranks take place IN the school.

darbypitcher22
Posts: 8,000
May 18, 2010 10:41am
I don't get why its so hard to come up with something that's funny yet not destructive
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
May 18, 2010 12:50pm
What was destructive about moving the books from one room to another?darbypitcher22 wrote: I don't get why its so hard to come up with something that's funny yet not destructive

darbypitcher22
Posts: 8,000
May 18, 2010 1:12pm
the whole breaking and entering part, that was the destructive part

THE4RINGZ
Posts: 16,816
May 18, 2010 1:22pm
Those punks better learn to respect the Dewey Decimal System.
tsst_fballfan
Posts: 406
May 18, 2010 1:44pm
Why don't we just make B&E and resisting arrest legal for everyone as long as 'it was just in fun'?!?! Really!?!? It's ok as long as the crime was just a prank?
Maybe they should have broke into the local grocery store and moved all of the chips to the canned food isle. Maybe they should have broke into the Lowes and moved all the hammers to the kitchen sink display. Maybe they should have broke into city hall and moved all of the tax forms to the 'to be shredded bin'. Maybe they should have broke into the gas station and switched the decaf and regular coffee. Maybe they should have broke into the police station and moved all the prisoners from wing A to wing B. As long as it was just a fun prank, right?
18 = adult
B&E = crime
resisting arrest = crime
adult + crime + crime = punishment and criminal record
Maybe they should have spent more time doing the math instead of the prank! They deserve whatever they get even if it is jail time. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time!
Maybe they should have broke into the local grocery store and moved all of the chips to the canned food isle. Maybe they should have broke into the Lowes and moved all the hammers to the kitchen sink display. Maybe they should have broke into city hall and moved all of the tax forms to the 'to be shredded bin'. Maybe they should have broke into the gas station and switched the decaf and regular coffee. Maybe they should have broke into the police station and moved all the prisoners from wing A to wing B. As long as it was just a fun prank, right?
18 = adult
B&E = crime
resisting arrest = crime
adult + crime + crime = punishment and criminal record
Maybe they should have spent more time doing the math instead of the prank! They deserve whatever they get even if it is jail time. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time!
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
May 18, 2010 1:49pm
^^^ You don't understand the concept of a senior prank do you?
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
May 18, 2010 1:50pm
What did they destroy?darbypitcher22 wrote: the whole breaking and entering part, that was the destructive part
They likely just used an open door. I know my high school has entries that are always open.

LJ
Posts: 16,351
May 18, 2010 1:51pm
my my how times have changed. My future FIL was just telling us the story (again) the other day about how he dropped a cop with a right hook in 1972 and had the charges dropped because he apologized (he still got charged with 12 equipment violations on his 69 Camaro SS and giving alcohol to a minor). I think if these kids have clean records some community service and some school punishment (not allowed to walk) should be sufficient.