Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jul 7, 2010 1:41pm
Automatik;414161 wrote:Whats the word on Torres? Last I heard he was being benched.
I say run it full on Barca style, 4-3-3. They just updated the rosters/formations on the game and thats what they are running. I just murderlized this guy who was playing with Germany.
Agree. I actually think they wouldve been MUCH better served to go this route to begin with.
Casillas in goal
Capdevilla, Puyol, Pique, Ramos in defense
Alonso and Busquets in CDM/CM roles interchanging
Xavi in advanced mid position
Iniesta and Cesc/Silva/Navas/whoever on the wings
Villa up top.
That is their best line-up and best formation. Not to mention, it is what half the team is used to playing at Barcelona. I understand they went a different route in Euros, but you have a few new pieces and clearly Torres is not ready to help the team....
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jul 7, 2010 1:44pm
Just looked. Pedro in for Torres. Good move. He is probably the one player who knows exactly how to play in front of Xavi and opposite Iniesta because of their club time with Barca. I think Cesc would have played if he was 100% healthy though because he looked good last game.
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The Enforcer
Posts: 110
Jul 7, 2010 1:48pm
I am trying to make a pick in Streak For the Cash and cant make up my mind.
Spain or Germany?
Spain or Germany?
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Jul 7, 2010 1:49pm
Most are choosing Germany fwiw. I'm not buying it.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jul 7, 2010 1:59pm
I chose Spain
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jul 7, 2010 2:04pm
Automatik;414193 wrote:Most are choosing Germany fwiw. I'm not buying it.
Germany is playing well (better than Spain to this point), but Spain has the better players. No doubt in my mind. Ill take Spain.
killdeer
Posts: 1,538
Jul 7, 2010 2:31pm
gonna be a great match!
though i'm rooting for Spain,
after watching Germany peak through these past weeks, I think they look too strong at this point.
even if you look beyond the offensive attack with Klose, Schweinstieger, and Podolski; the defense was absolutely swarming against Argentina, (although admittedly a much less patient and disciplined side than Spain).
Should be a tight and low-scoring match I would guess.
though i'm rooting for Spain,
after watching Germany peak through these past weeks, I think they look too strong at this point.
even if you look beyond the offensive attack with Klose, Schweinstieger, and Podolski; the defense was absolutely swarming against Argentina, (although admittedly a much less patient and disciplined side than Spain).
Should be a tight and low-scoring match I would guess.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jul 7, 2010 2:53pm
killdeer;414286 wrote:
though i'm rooting for Spain,
after watching Germany peak through these past weeks, I think they look too strong at this point.
even if you look beyond the offensive attack with Klose, Schweinstieger, and Podolski; the defense was absolutely swarming against Argentina, (although admittedly a much less patient and disciplined side than Spain).
At least you admitted it
. Spain and Argentina shouldnt be considered anywhere close to even. Right now, Spain is much better both individually and as a team because virtually no country can play the way they want versus Spain. Its just impossible to do when you have the ball less than 40% of the game.
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NilesPacMan
Posts: 452
Jul 7, 2010 3:17pm
Spain is trying way too hard to be technical, but I think the game would open up if Germany got a goal and forced Spain to push forward. Unfortunately, if Spain gets a goal, I think the game will tighten up even more, and Spain will just sit on it...
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jul 7, 2010 3:27pm
Any goal is going to open up any game. But a German goal would be the worst if the two. Germany is the team sitting back and making everything compact. A Spain goal would make Germany come out and pressure them way more, it would be the best thing this game could ask for.NilesPacMan;414380 wrote:Spain is trying way too hard to be technical, but I think the game would open up if Germany got a goal and forced Spain to push forward. Unfortunately, if Spain gets a goal, I think the game will tighten up even more, and Spain will just sit on it...
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NilesPacMan
Posts: 452
Jul 7, 2010 3:32pm
Good point.
Germany would have to attack a bit more, I agree, but I think that the Spaniards will just try to kill the game if they scored a goal. Germany will put more pressure, leaving themselves susceptible, but Spain is too technical for me to see Germany getting much possession. Now, Germany would drop back, definitely, if they scored a goal, but Spain will have to put more pressure. In fact, I'd think we'd see something along the lines of the Spain/US semifinal last year with Spain bearing down on the US the last 30 or so minutes. That bombardment would be interesting to watch...
Germany would have to attack a bit more, I agree, but I think that the Spaniards will just try to kill the game if they scored a goal. Germany will put more pressure, leaving themselves susceptible, but Spain is too technical for me to see Germany getting much possession. Now, Germany would drop back, definitely, if they scored a goal, but Spain will have to put more pressure. In fact, I'd think we'd see something along the lines of the Spain/US semifinal last year with Spain bearing down on the US the last 30 or so minutes. That bombardment would be interesting to watch...
Laley23
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Jul 7, 2010 3:50pm
^^^Yeah, it could happen either way. Point being, game needs a goal soon.
killdeer
Posts: 1,538
Jul 7, 2010 3:59pm
defensively tight on both sides,
really very little chance for either side to develop a sturdy counter-attack
set piece goal!!!!!
really very little chance for either side to develop a sturdy counter-attack
set piece goal!!!!!
Fab1b
Posts: 12,949
Jul 7, 2010 3:59pm
There it is Spain 1-0
Laley23
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Jul 7, 2010 4:00pm
CARLES!!!!!
Automatik
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Jul 7, 2010 4:20pm
Powerful German's held scoreless?? Bwahahahahahaa
BigAppleBuckeye
Posts: 2,935
Jul 7, 2010 4:36pm
Looks like this Octopus is still perfect in predictions! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJYv5rul11M&feature=player_embedded
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rock_knutne
Jul 7, 2010 9:50pm
I don't know what's so funny because Germany is powerful.Automatik;414509 wrote:Powerful German's held scoreless?? Bwahahahahahaa
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I Wear Pants
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Jul 7, 2010 10:50pm
Quick, I have a $10 giftcard to soccer.com that expires tomorrow. What do I buy?
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Jul 8, 2010 2:10am
Whats funny is everyone jumped on the German bandwagon after they rolled on Argentina.....which I admit, was impressive.rock_knutne;415056 wrote:I don't know what's so funny because Germany is powerful.
But Argentina isn't Spain. Ze Germans barely had the ball and when they did....couldn't capitalize.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Jul 10, 2010 3:52pm
The 3rd place game has been pretty entertaining, aside from the announcer's obsession with Suarez being booed. Diego Forlan should win the Golden Ball in my opinion.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jul 10, 2010 4:28pm
Mulva;419431 wrote:The 3rd place game has been pretty entertaining, aside from the announcer's obsession with Suarez being booed. Diego Forlan should win the Golden Ball in my opinion.
Depends on what Sneijder, Xavi and Villa do in the final. But he has to be in the discussion for sure.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Jul 10, 2010 4:30pm
diego is pure class
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rock_knutne
Jul 10, 2010 8:41pm
Laley23;419452 wrote:Depends on what Sneijder, Xavi and Villa do in the final. But he has to be in the discussion for sure.
How about Muller? He's definitely going to win best "young player" and if the goal tallies stay as they are now, he will win the Golden Boot because he has the most assists.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jul 10, 2010 8:44pm
rock_knutne;419681 wrote:How about Muller? He's definitely going to win best "young player" and if the goal tallies stay as they are now, he will win the Golden Boot because he has the most assists.
I know, I think missing a game is going to hurt his chances. and while he has more assists, he isnt on the ball as much as the other 3, which hurts his impact on the game.