Pitt ordering Toledo Whitmer to remove Panther from field

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CardsFlyinHigh

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Apr 29, 2010 8:11 PM
http://abclocal.go.com/wtvg/story?section=news/local&id=7403322

Just a stupid thing on Pitts part. What does it hurt to have a high school using your logo? How many schools have the Florida State spear on their helmets and they've never said a word.
Apr 29, 2010 8:11pm
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Steel Valley Football

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Apr 29, 2010 8:51 PM
CardsFlyinHigh wrote: http://abclocal.go.com/wtvg/story?section=news/local&id=7403322

Just a stupid thing on Pitts part. What does it hurt to have a high school using your logo? How many schools have the Florida State spear on their helmets and they've never said a word.

I don't think FSU was the first to use that spear and I don't think they invented it. Also, most high schools you see using a spear have a variation on the FSU one if you look close.
Apr 29, 2010 8:51pm
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CardsFlyinHigh

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Apr 29, 2010 9:55 PM
same thing with Whitmer. It wasnt exactally pitt's logo but close enough. I just don't get why Pitt is so upset with someone using their logo. I would think it would be a good thing.
Apr 29, 2010 9:55pm
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Steel Valley Football

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Apr 29, 2010 10:20 PM
Well, it has to be the same or close enough or Pitt wouldn't have a case. Pitt is "upset" because income is being made from a school using their logo. Pitt either gets a royalty (if Pitt chooses that route) or Whitmer has to stop using it. Pitt can also just say stop using it or we'll take you to court. The Toledo school system can't afford a lawsuit like that.

This isn't a new thing either. A few years ago several colleges did this. I recall Wisconsin ordering Wapak and some other schools to stop using their logo or else change it altogether, which I think Wapak did.
Apr 29, 2010 10:20pm
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Fabio

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Apr 29, 2010 10:23 PM
My high school essentially used the same exact helmet design of the New Orleans Saints for all of the 90's and up until the 2002 season, which they switched to a white flor de lis logo, but I remember our school formally asking the Saints permission to use their logo for our athletic teams.
Apr 29, 2010 10:23pm
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irish_buffalo

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Apr 29, 2010 10:48 PM
Big nothing story.

Whitmer has changed their logo to one that a student came up which is better than the Pitt one which they probably paid a company $100,000's of dollars to come up with.

By the way Steel Valley the Toledo Public School system has nothing to do with this as Toledo Whitmer is governed by Washington Local Schools.
Apr 29, 2010 10:48pm
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Steel Valley Football

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Apr 29, 2010 11:00 PM
irish_buffalo wrote: Big nothing story.

Whitmer has changed their logo to one that a student came up which is better than the Pitt one which they probably paid a company $100,000's of dollars to come up with.

By the way Steel Valley the Toledo Public School system has nothing to do with this as Toledo Whitmer is governed by Washington Local Schools.

LOL so Washington Local then. My point was that no school system can afford to go to court with a major university over something like this (they will likely lose).
Apr 29, 2010 11:00pm
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Apr 30, 2010 2:10 AM
Forget Pitt for now on. If you want to pick on a HS that you don't deserve support. I'm sure that HS isn't making millions on their logo. I'd like to see someone sue Pitt because they aren't the first to use the panther either and I bet somewhere there is someone who said hey look that design looks just like the one we have.
Apr 30, 2010 2:10am
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Keith

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Apr 30, 2010 7:44 AM
I'd like to hear from Pitt how they are being hurt by Whitmers use of the logo. How much money is it costing the university due to a HIGH SCHOOL in ohio using a logo that is similar to theirs?
Apr 30, 2010 7:44am
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Altor

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Apr 30, 2010 8:53 AM
Keith wrote: I'd like to hear from Pitt how they are being hurt by Whitmers use of the logo. How much money is it costing the university due to a HIGH SCHOOL in ohio using a logo that is similar to theirs?
It doesn't matter how much money Pitt is losing, if any. If the owner of a trademark finds out somebody is (mis)using their mark, they have to defend it. If they don't defend it, then they risk losing exclusive rights to that mark.
Apr 30, 2010 8:53am
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Apr 30, 2010 9:18 AM
correct...its all about copyright protection.

Personally I hate when high schools use college or pro logos...how hard is it to come up with something original!?!
Apr 30, 2010 9:18am
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Apr 30, 2010 10:21 AM
Altor has it right. Manaze and Keith just don't get it.

This trademark infringement stuff happens ALL the time. It's usually a cut and dry case and this one should be no different.
Apr 30, 2010 10:21am
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Apr 30, 2010 11:21 AM
ManO'War wrote: correct...its all about copyright protection.

Personally I hate when high schools use college or pro logos...how hard is it to come up with something original!?!
Because a big S is really original right
Apr 30, 2010 11:21am
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Apr 30, 2010 11:32 PM
No but a fire-breathing horse is;)

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Apr 30, 2010 11:32pm
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May 1, 2010 12:06 AM
Zombienation wrote:
ManO'War wrote: correct...its all about copyright protection.

Personally I hate when high schools use college or pro logos...how hard is it to come up with something original!?!
Because a big S is really original right
The S is on the helmet, but it's not our logo. Do some research before making stupid comments, will ya?!
May 1, 2010 12:06am
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May 1, 2010 12:55 AM
ManO'War wrote:
Zombienation wrote:
ManO'War wrote: correct...its all about copyright protection.

Personally I hate when high schools use college or pro logos...how hard is it to come up with something original!?!
Because a big S is really original right
The S is on the helmet, but it's not our logo. Do some research before making stupid comments, will ya?!
Edited by GoChiefs. Not going to turn every thread into an argument.
May 1, 2010 12:55am
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May 2, 2010 12:10 AM
I GUESS PITT NEEDS ALL THE MONEY THEY CAN GET WHAT A JOKE!!!!!
May 2, 2010 12:10am
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Keith

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May 3, 2010 6:28 AM
Steel Valley Football wrote: Altor has it right. Manaze and Keith just don't get it.

This trademark infringement stuff happens ALL the time. It's usually a cut and dry case and this one should be no different.
I get it just fine. I've been around this stuff for a very long time. I completely understand it is all about Pitt protecting their "trademark" from a big bad high school. But again the question is how much money could Pitt possibly be losing due to this.
May 3, 2010 6:28am
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May 3, 2010 9:12 AM
It's not about Pitt losing money to a hs, but if Pitt doesn't protect their trademark now, then they lose that ability in the future, whereas then anyone will be able to use the logo and make money off of it.
May 3, 2010 9:12am
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Steel Valley Football

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May 3, 2010 11:01 AM
See Keith you really don't get it.
May 3, 2010 11:01am
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Keith

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May 3, 2010 11:06 AM
And you're not getting it if you think it is about anything BUT money. But frankly it's not worth getting into a pissing match over. I know our good friends up on Whitmer Dr. will handle this appropriately.
May 3, 2010 11:06am
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akron hammer

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May 3, 2010 3:07 PM
Wasn't going to check in but.......Pitt is protecting a logo it "retired" 3 years ago. They replaced it with a newer cat and now don't use that one either. They use a PITT logo now. It will all get cleared up and Whitmer's new cat will be trademarked. Lemonade will be made out of these lemons.

Keith....I enjoy the healthy rivalry and respect the Panthers have with the Little Giants. Leaguemates will only make it better.
May 3, 2010 3:07pm
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Keith

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May 3, 2010 8:22 PM
Agreed akron hammer. The amount of respect, class and sportsmanship shown by Ross and Whitmer towards each other is great to see. When the Little Giants and Panthers play you can be sure you'll see a great, well played game. I have been fortunate to have developed some tremendous friendships with some knowledgable, classy Whitmer fans. And yes, I very much look forward to 2011 and our entrance into the City League.
May 3, 2010 8:22pm
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May 4, 2010 7:57 AM
Akron hammer, You're right that lemonade will be made. I will be delighted when the.... pittcher of lemonade is gone. We can get back to focusing on the needs of the kids....

Keith, I too am looking forward to another Little Giant...Panther battle.

115 days until the first game of the 2010 season.
May 4, 2010 7:57am
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May 7, 2010 11:14 AM
it seems to me pitt should worry about more important things. like why do they lose games they should win.
May 7, 2010 11:14am