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mhs95_06

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Apr 28, 2010 8:11 PM
Underway in Houston. Reds get the first two runners on, and they advance on Votto's chopper.
Apr 28, 2010 8:11pm
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Apr 28, 2010 8:15 PM
Rolen get one in with a ground ball, but Bruce can't get the other, more difficult one, in with two outs as he pops up a curve ball for the 3rd out.
Apr 28, 2010 8:15pm
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Apr 28, 2010 8:22 PM
Leake holds the first inning lead as the Astros bat just three on 10 pitches with a K, a hit by Keppinger, and an easy DP grounder by Lee.
Apr 28, 2010 8:22pm
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Apr 28, 2010 8:59 PM
Leake pitching well so far
Apr 28, 2010 8:59pm
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Apr 28, 2010 9:39 PM
Leake gets out of a problematic 5th, giving up just one run after the Astros give the Reds 4 in the 4th. Leake would have been out of it with no runs and many less pitches if Janish was in there to throw out Pence. Leake makes his worst decision of the night, to try for a double on his hit down the RF line that bounced off the stands right to Pence who gunned him out at 2nd.
Apr 28, 2010 9:39pm
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Apr 28, 2010 9:42 PM
Both of Keppinger's hits tonight have just been set-ups for two outs on one pitch from the next batter, Lee.
Apr 28, 2010 9:42pm
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Apr 28, 2010 9:58 PM
It kind of sickens me that a rookie is pitching SOOOOOOO much better than our vets.
Apr 28, 2010 9:58pm
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Apr 28, 2010 10:13 PM
Would Leake be doing any better in triple A?
Apr 28, 2010 10:13pm
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Apr 28, 2010 10:42 PM
Leake looks like he might be something special. Pretty incredible what he is doing having skipped the minors completely.
Apr 28, 2010 10:42pm
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Apr 28, 2010 10:43 PM
Squeaked that one out after having a 5 run lead in the 9th.
Apr 28, 2010 10:43pm
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Apr 28, 2010 10:55 PM
What do you do with Massett? He is sucking, his era must be 15 by now.
Apr 28, 2010 10:55pm
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Apr 28, 2010 10:57 PM
Only 11 lol
Apr 28, 2010 10:57pm
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Apr 28, 2010 11:01 PM
Ok, ok on his way to 15 then lol
Apr 28, 2010 11:01pm
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Apr 28, 2010 11:03 PM
How about 12.54:

Pitchers IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA
Mike Leake (W,2-0) 7.0 5 1 1 2 5 0 3.25
Arthur Rhodes 1.0 0 0 0 0 1 0 1.04
Nick Masset 0.1 1 2 2 1 1 1 12.54
Francisco Cordero 0.2 2 1 1 1 1 0 3.18
Apr 28, 2010 11:03pm
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Apr 28, 2010 11:10 PM
Must not have been updated when I looked.
Apr 28, 2010 11:10pm
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Apr 28, 2010 11:12 PM
Actually mhs, those are just the pitcher's lines from tonight.
Apr 28, 2010 11:12pm
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Apr 28, 2010 11:22 PM
wildcats20 wrote: Actually mhs, those are just the pitcher's lines from tonight.
That is correct - the ERAs are up to date including tonight's game.
Apr 28, 2010 11:22pm
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Apr 28, 2010 11:23 PM
The Reds website along with mlb.com have his ERA at 11.0.


And with this win, the Reds moved back into 2nd place in the division; only 4 games back of St. Louis
Apr 28, 2010 11:23pm
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Apr 28, 2010 11:25 PM
And nevermind lol. Apparently it takes over an hour for the stats to be updated. My bad.
Apr 28, 2010 11:25pm
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Apr 28, 2010 11:29 PM
I thought that Cordero would have gotten credit for a cheap, shaky save tonight as he came in with the lead at 3 runs and he finished the game off. But I don't see the stats showing it so far!
Apr 28, 2010 11:29pm
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Apr 28, 2010 11:31 PM
What is the rule on saves?? Isn't it a certain run lead at home and different on the road?
Apr 28, 2010 11:31pm
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Apr 28, 2010 11:55 PM
wildcats20 wrote: What is the rule on saves?? Isn't it a certain run lead at home and different on the road?
In baseball statistics, the term save is used to indicate the successful maintenance of a lead by a relief pitcher, usually the closer, until the end of the game. A save is a statistic credited to a relief pitcher, as set forth in Rule 10.19 of the Rules of Baseball. That rule states the official scorer shall credit a pitcher with a save when such pitcher meets all four of the following conditions[2]:

1.He is the finishing pitcher in a game won by his team;
2.He is not the winning pitcher;
3.He is credited with at least ? of an inning pitched; and
4.He satisfies one of the following conditions:
1.He enters the game with a lead of no more than three runs and pitches for at least one inning
2.He enters the game, regardless of the count, with the potential tying run either on base, at bat or on deck
3.He pitches for at least three innings

Cordero didn't qualify due to not pitching a full inning, and not having the tying run being at least on deck! Looking this up, I learned that Cordero doesn't get a save for what he did tonight, but if a pitcher comes in to get just one out with a five run lead and the bases loaded, he can get a save.
Apr 28, 2010 11:55pm
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Apr 29, 2010 7:53 AM
Leake is going to be special! He has some nasty pitches, and the moxy to go w/ them.
Apr 29, 2010 7:53am
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Apr 29, 2010 9:44 AM
mhs95_06 wrote: In baseball statistics, the term save is used to indicate the successful maintenance of a lead by a relief pitcher, usually the closer, until the end of the game. A save is a statistic credited to a relief pitcher, as set forth in Rule 10.19 of the Rules of Baseball. That rule states the official scorer shall credit a pitcher with a save when such pitcher meets all four of the following conditions[2]:

1.He is the finishing pitcher in a game won by his team;
2.He is not the winning pitcher;
3.He is credited with at least ? of an inning pitched; and
4.He satisfies one of the following conditions:
1.He enters the game with a lead of no more than three runs and pitches for at least one inning
2.He enters the game, regardless of the count, with the potential tying run either on base, at bat or on deck
3.He pitches for at least three innings

Cordero didn't qualify due to not pitching a full inning, and not having the tying run being at least on deck!
According to #3 he doesn't have to pitch "a full inning" he just needs to pitch at least 1/3 of an inning (i.e. one out)
Apr 29, 2010 9:44am
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Apr 29, 2010 11:33 AM
jordo212000 wrote:
mhs95_06 wrote: In baseball statistics, the term save is used to indicate the successful maintenance of a lead by a relief pitcher, usually the closer, until the end of the game. A save is a statistic credited to a relief pitcher, as set forth in Rule 10.19 of the Rules of Baseball. That rule states the official scorer shall credit a pitcher with a save when such pitcher meets all four of the following conditions[2]:

1.He is the finishing pitcher in a game won by his team;
2.He is not the winning pitcher;
3.He is credited with at least ? of an inning pitched; and
4.He satisfies one of the following conditions:
1.He enters the game with a lead of no more than three runs and pitches for at least one inning
2.He enters the game, regardless of the count, with the potential tying run either on base, at bat or on deck
3.He pitches for at least three innings

Cordero didn't qualify due to not pitching a full inning, and not having the tying run being at least on deck!
According to #3 he doesn't have to pitch "a full inning" he just needs to pitch at least 1/3 of an inning (i.e. one out)
But if it is not a full innjing, the tying run has to be at least on deck when he enters the game. That was not the case last night as the lead was three and no one was on, so the trying run was"in the hole" rather than "on deck".
Apr 29, 2010 11:33am