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Belly35

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Apr 19, 2010 11:02 AM
I think it only fair that you have an opportunity to voice what you really think and to whom are to be blame. Blame yourself, Obama, friend, Spread the Wealth, wife/husband, ex-wife/husband or g/b friend, your boss, whoever go at it.

If you have had your pay cut to keep you employed or if you have lost your job and are now unemployed and if you are presently unemployed and can’t find a job ..

Who would you thank for your good fortune of pay cuts and unemployment?
Apr 19, 2010 11:02am
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FatHobbit

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Apr 19, 2010 11:03 AM
I blame life not being fair.

Boo hoo.
Apr 19, 2010 11:03am
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sleeper

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Apr 19, 2010 11:05 AM
I'm unemployed and I love it LOL
Apr 19, 2010 11:05am
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gerb131

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Apr 19, 2010 11:08 AM
Working about 20hrs a week thanks to the sales rep at the company that way over bid a contract that we used to have. I would like to stay around 30 but thats not going to happen until we get another contract at some point.
Apr 19, 2010 11:08am
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cbus4life

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Apr 19, 2010 11:09 AM
Last time i was unemployed, i blamed myself.

Jobs were available, i was interviewing, just wasn't landing them.

But, thankfully, i'm loving the work i'm doing at the moment, and will be starting a new job at the end of June that i'm really excited about.
Apr 19, 2010 11:09am
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Benny The Jet

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Apr 19, 2010 11:11 AM
I would like to thank the government/state or whoever is responsible for cutting thousands of teaching jobs throughout Ohio, makes it real easy to enter a profession going against many teachers with years of experience on me.
Apr 19, 2010 11:11am
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Con_Alma

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Apr 19, 2010 11:15 AM
To receive money or compensation you have an obligation to create value for someone else. If they don't have a need for your services you are not giving them value. Why is it ever someone else's fault that you can't fit or provide the value they may or may not need?
Apr 19, 2010 11:15am
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cbus4life

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Apr 19, 2010 11:15 AM
Benny The Jet wrote: I would like to thank the government/state or whoever is responsible for cutting thousands of teaching jobs throughout Ohio, makes it real easy to enter a profession going against many teachers with years of experience on me.
Get special ed certified. My brother has interviewed for like 10 openings in the past couple weeks, all in central Ohio.
Apr 19, 2010 11:15am
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cbus4life

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Apr 19, 2010 11:15 AM
P.S.

The correct answer Belly is looking for is "public servant and servants."
Apr 19, 2010 11:15am
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jmog

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Apr 19, 2010 11:20 AM
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sleeper wrote: I'm unemployed and I love it LOL
What happened to the "big stacks of CASH MONEY!"?


My company did 2 rounds of layoffs last year and the 2nd round also cost the rest of us 10% of our pay.

The 10% was reinstated in about 1 month when we got really busy again and we've been back to "full pay" since about mid October of last year.[/align]
Apr 19, 2010 11:20am
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Nate

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Apr 19, 2010 11:23 AM
sleeper wrote: I'm unemployed and I love it LOL
I thought you were a six-figure OSU grad...
Apr 19, 2010 11:23am
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Benny The Jet

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Apr 19, 2010 11:26 AM
cbus4life wrote:
Benny The Jet wrote: I would like to thank the government/state or whoever is responsible for cutting thousands of teaching jobs throughout Ohio, makes it real easy to enter a profession going against many teachers with years of experience on me.
Get special ed certified. My brother has interviewed for like 10 openings in the past couple weeks, all in central Ohio.
Start classes next month for my masters in special ed. Would rather do what I graduated in, but you gotta do what you gotta do to get a job.
Apr 19, 2010 11:26am
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Belly35

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Apr 19, 2010 11:28 AM
cbus4life wrote: P.S.

The correct answer Belly is looking for is "public servant and servants."


In times like this people should speak out and voice what on their mind.
Let hear from real world and real Americans who are unemployed.
If Public Servant comes to mind then say it ..if not then place blame where blame should be placed.
Apr 19, 2010 11:28am
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Manhattan Buckeye

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Apr 19, 2010 11:29 AM
"To receive money or compensation you have an obligation to create value for someone else."

I agree with that with one caveat, "To receive money or compensation you have an obligation to create value for someone else and in turn that someone else has the ability to pay you."

That's true whether you're an independent businessperson and you rely on clients/customers to pay your bills, or you work for a larger entity and rely on their ability to make payroll.
Apr 19, 2010 11:29am
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cbus4life

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Apr 19, 2010 11:31 AM
Benny The Jet wrote:
cbus4life wrote:
Benny The Jet wrote: I would like to thank the government/state or whoever is responsible for cutting thousands of teaching jobs throughout Ohio, makes it real easy to enter a profession going against many teachers with years of experience on me.
Get special ed certified. My brother has interviewed for like 10 openings in the past couple weeks, all in central Ohio.
Start classes next month for my masters in special ed. Would rather do what I graduated in, but you gotta do what you gotta do to get a job.
Awesome. That is exactly what my brother did. He just finished his masters in special education, and job prospects are looking real good.

He started out as social studies...no chance in hell you're finding one of those in Ohio at the moment.
Apr 19, 2010 11:31am
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MontyBrunswick

Apr 19, 2010 11:44 AM
Benny The Jet wrote: I would like to thank the government/state or whoever is responsible for cutting thousands of teaching jobs throughout Ohio, makes it real easy to enter a profession going against many teachers with years of experience on me.
You can thank the unconstitutional education system for that.

If you don't like it you could always move to another state...
Apr 19, 2010 11:44am
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Con_Alma

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Apr 19, 2010 11:46 AM
I don't think the educational system is unconstitutional.
Apr 19, 2010 11:46am
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MontyBrunswick

Apr 19, 2010 11:48 AM
Con_Alma wrote: I don't think the educational system is unconstitutional.
It sure is. The law states that the opportunity for a education is fair and balanced.

Except that the education system is based off of property tax.

That's why Dublin has a bitchin school and rural schools are having cutbacks.

Two links:

First, a cool walkthrough of an abandoned school with the rundown of how the education system was ruled unconsitutional:
http://www.forgottenoh.com/NSPS/nsps.html

And a cool wiki article of the case:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeRolph_v._State
Apr 19, 2010 11:48am
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Con_Alma

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Apr 19, 2010 11:50 AM
The opportunity is present for all based on the requirements set forth by the Ohio Department of education. Anything provided above that level is determined by the local school boards.

What has been declared unconstitutional by the Ohio Supreme Court is the manner in which public education is funded in the State of Ohio.
Apr 19, 2010 11:50am
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MontyBrunswick

Apr 19, 2010 11:55 AM
Okay now you're just being a smartass.

I guess I should have said PUBLIC education system.
Apr 19, 2010 11:55am
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Con_Alma

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Apr 19, 2010 11:57 AM
?????

The public education system in Ohio isn't unconstitutional. The manner that it is funded is. The reliance on property tax was deemed to be too heavy.
Apr 19, 2010 11:57am
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MontyBrunswick

Apr 19, 2010 12:00 PM
Con_Alma wrote: ?????

The public education system in Ohio isn't unconstitutional. The manner that it is funded is. The reliance on property tax was deemed to be too heavy.
Easy on the technicalities.
Apr 19, 2010 12:00pm
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Con_Alma

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Apr 19, 2010 12:02 PM
...thought I was. :(
Apr 19, 2010 12:02pm
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ernest_t_bass

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Apr 19, 2010 1:38 PM
dlazz wrote:
Con_Alma wrote: I don't think the educational system is unconstitutional.
It sure is. The law states that the opportunity for a education is fair and balanced.

Except that the education system is based off of property tax.

That's why Dublin has a bitchin school and rural schools are having cutbacks.

Two links:

First, a cool walkthrough of an abandoned school with the rundown of how the education system was ruled unconsitutional:
http://www.forgottenoh.com/NSPS/nsps.html

And a cool wiki article of the case:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeRolph_v._State

Anyone have the link of the video that compares Vinton County and Dublin schools?
Apr 19, 2010 1:38pm
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Con_Alma

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Apr 19, 2010 1:46 PM
Con_Alma wrote: ...

What has been declared unconstitutional by the Ohio Supreme Court is the manner in which public education is funded in the State of Ohio.
"DeRolph v. State was a landmark case in Ohio constitutional law in which the Ohio Supreme Court ruled that the state's method for funding public education was unconstitutional. ..."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeRolph_v._State

Good stuff.
Apr 19, 2010 1:46pm