Sage wrote: Cavs are gettin dumped by the Bobcats regardless.

lol wow.

I admit I haven't watched much NBA, but THIS is the team that's gonna win it all??? HA!!! Lebron James can now shoot mid/ long range??? HA!!! The next MJ???? Do these people remember MJ???

You never like to see a championship caliber team have a 3 game losing streak. They've got a long time to regain the focus back and play with the rotations.

The bottom line is the better team did just enough to post the win in this one.

newarkcatholicfan wrote: The bottom line is the better team did just enough to post the win in this one.

Id say the bottom line is that the better team is up 2-1 in the season series and the Cavs are just playing awful at the moment.

The lack of an offensive game plan will kill the Cavaliers. Brown cannot rely on LeBron to make everything happen.

I think this Jamison trade is going to end up being a huge mistake for the Cavs

Man it is so hilarious how people post when the Cavs lose.

SQ...I've thought that since they made the deal

Look how he played today.

It's his second game with the team.

Think what you want, but we'll see. The difference between today and his first game was night and day just based on his comfort level. You could see it in his step, he was unsure about everything in the 1st game. He's going to fit in nicely.

Yeah I fail to see how any blame could be left on Jamison today, blame should go to the horrendous guard play we've received the last few games.

Today they went a combined 4-23. You're not going to win, when those numbers come from your top 4 guards.

Mo Williams need to be coming off the bench for a while until that shoulder gets right.

And our FT's have been bad as well. 16-25 won't win you many games.

I think it's funny how SOME Cavs fans post when the win and lose. A few get very cocky over some regular season wins and think they're entitled to more than they are. A few get pretty impatient after a loss. Each game tells you a tiny bit here and there, and together they tell you a lot about a team. Sometimes, it tells you everything (lottery teams), other times (playoff bound), the best part of the story is to come.

And we won't be the same team until we get Z back. That gives Jamison a month to get worked in (after a month you've pretty much learned your new system) then Z joins the rotation again (it absolutely is hurting us right now, and I think most rational fans knew it would--we don't have a true backup center, and Shaq is great but he's no spring chicken anymore--you have to have a backup for him) and we roll into the playoffs.

Just watch and see, we're going to be fine. You guys are flippin' out about losing close games to some of the best teams in the NBA. Without a big part of our team, with a new part that isn't worked in yet, and with a PG who is just coming off an injury. And we've still got the best record in the league. Don't freak out, they'll figure it out. They just won 13 straight games, don't forget that. And to those of you saying Mike Brown is an idiot--you're an idiot. Do you even pay attention to the game or do you just watch the score change? He's mixing up rotations so much right now, not just because of Jamison but because of the situation we're in. A 13 game winning streak going into the break gave us a little breathing room. You have a new player and guys that were rolling. You don't want to get stagnant and peak too early, if you don't think he's thought about that you're an idiot again. That happened last year, guys peaked too early--mainly Mo Williams. He's throwing different lineups out there like crazy. Might as well take advantage of the benefits of a 13 game win streak and make your team try (and practice) different things that what you were previously doing. They perfected what they were doing before, I can't be the only one who has noticed that they aren't even trying to play the way they did during that win streak. They don't even have the same sort of game plan.

I've noticed footwedge is nowhere to be found after Jamison proved him all wrong today...LOL!

I fail to see how anyone could blame it on Jamison, also. Lebron trying to take the ball through 4 defenders expecting to automatically get a call, throwing up brick after brick, not making free-throws, and disappearing in the fourth quarter are to blame. The King!!!!!!!

Until (or IF) Z comes back this team is in trouble.

The fault is not Jamison himself, it is the trade that is screwing things up.

This team really misses Z and until (IF) he comes back they are going to be in trouble.

As it stands now, they cannot beat Orlando or Boston.

That would all change if Z gets bought out and comes back to Cleveland and not Dallas.

Strapping Young Lad wrote: I fail to see how anyone could blame it on Jamison, also. Lebron trying to take the ball through 4 defenders expecting to automatically get a call, throwing up brick after brick, not making free-throws, and disappearing in the fourth quarter are to blame. The King!!!!!!!

All from 82games.com (yeah, I'm just bored--LeBron in bold, Kobe not):

Floor time statistics (represents how the team performed while the player was on the floor):
Minutes: 80%
Win %: 85% (45-8)
Net points: +458

Minutes: 75%
Win%: 78 % (40-11)
Net points: +407

Passing rating:
13.4
8.0

Rebounding rating:
19.0
13.6

Shot block rating:
3.5
1.1

'Hands' rating:
27.9
19.4


Clutch time floor-time stats (4th quarter or overtime, less than 5 minutes left, neither team ahead by more than 5 points):
Mins: 100%
Net points: +75
Win %: 78.6 (22-6)
NET48: 37.2
Mins: 99%
Net points: +19
Win %: 60 (9-6)
NET48: 10.2

The Net48 number shows the average +/- net points over a full game.

LeBron
http://www.82games.com/0910/09CLE10.HTM

Kobe
http://www.82games.com/0910/09LAL5.HTM

Eric Taylor wrote: As it stands now, they cannot beat Orlando or Boston.

Bahahahaha.

Did you see what happened today?

Without Z, they are going to have a tough time beating either team in a 7 game series.

Shaq cant do it by himself in the paint anymore.

Eric Taylor wrote: Did you see what happened today?

Without Z, they are going to have a tough time beating either team in a 7 game series.

Shaq cant do it by himself in the paint anymore.

I love Z, but he has nothing to do with their problems with Orlando today. You cannot miss that many foul shots and Mo and Delonte cannot combine for around for 15%. It will be nice to get him back, but his value is being overstated by some.

wes_mantooth wrote:

Eric Taylor wrote: Did you see what happened today?

Without Z, they are going to have a tough time beating either team in a 7 game series.

Shaq cant do it by himself in the paint anymore.

I love Z, but he has nothing to do with their problems with Orlando today. You cannot miss that many foul shots and Mo and Delonte cannot combine for around for 15%. It will be nice to get him back, but his value is being overstated by some.

Thank you.

This is why we lost today.

FT's are also the reason we lost to the Nuggets.

Mo isn't back in the flow. Not getting to the line. Z isn't with us. Shaq is playing more. All reasons our FT percentage will go down, you have to make up for it somewhere else. FT's aren't why we lost, we had to know that our percentage would be lower going into these games.

And we will get Z back.

Mo and Delonte have been killing us. If Mo isnt ready to play then he should be sitting on the bench. Hes hurting the Cavs more then he is helping them at this point. Dont take minutes away from Boobie (who was playing well) until you're sure that Mo is damn near 100%.

Mike Brown makes too many mistakes. Can somebody explain to me why we were double teaming DH in the 4th quarter with Shaq in the game? That totally opens things up for the Magic offense, thats how they beat us in the playoffs. Let Shaq do his thing.

There is not a player in this league that can stop Lebron from getting to the rim. There is no way that he should be taking as many 3's as he does. Problem is that there isnt a man on that coaching staff that has the balls to get in his face and tell him to drive the ball to the bucket.

With all that being said, I hardly think the Cavs are in trouble like alot of people are suggesting. Its been 3 games fellas. Jamison looked much more comfortable today then he did the other night. Once everybody gets healthy and Mike Brown figures out his roations this team will be fine. They still have like 26 games left in their season, its a marathon, not a sprint.

That's awsome, SQ. Too bad I didn't read whatever the hell it is you wrote.....

All I know is LeBrick was livin' up to the name today. He built a house w/ those bricks then went inside to hide during the fourth quarter.....http://www.instantrimshot.com/