Wouldn't it be interesting if LeBron (...and other franchise players) said "heck I already have a ton of money and I make alot in endorsements. You know what? I could sign for a few million, and then that would allow us to make a move for somebody else!"Cleveland Buck wrote:
If LeBron agrees to come back, they would have room to sign a max player, as long as they sign that player first, then they can go over the cap to sign LeBron, Z, and Shaq if they want.
That's not how it works. There will be a cap hold for all of our free agents against the cap until they are either resigned or renounced, at which point you lose their bird rights.If LeBron agrees to come back, they would have room to sign a max player, as long as they sign that player first, then they can go over the cap to sign LeBron, Z, and Shaq if they want.
Basically the Cavs have zero cap room for next year as the cap hold for Lebron alone will eat up most of the available money.
31. Why do free agents continue to count against a team's cap?
It closes another loophole. Teams otherwise would be able to sign other teams' free agents using their cap room, and then turn their attention to their own free agents using the Bird exceptions. This rule restricts their ability to do that. It doesn't close this loophole completely -- for example, in 2005 Michael Redd's free agent amount was $6 million, even though the Bucks intended to re-sign him for the maximum salary. By waiting to sign Redd last, the Bucks were able to take advantage of the difference by signing Bobby Simmons. Had they signed Redd first, they would have had no cap room to sign Simmons.
No, and if they were there are teams that could give back alot more than JJ and an expiring contract. Neither of those teams are in contract dump mode, and we have very little by the way of talent to give back to them.Bosh/Amar'e on the blocks???
Did I say Cleveland should trade for either of them?IggyPride00 wrote:No, and if they were there are teams that could give back alot more than JJ and an expiring contract. Neither of those teams are in contract dump mode, and we have very little by the way of talent to give back to them.Bosh/Amar'e on the blocks???
Doesn't work that way. Bron's number stays on there unless they denounce his rights. They can't go get Chris Bosh then use their Bird to sign Bron. The only way they can get a second member of this class is to trade for him now.Cleveland Buck wrote: If the salary cap for next year goes down as expected, here is what the Cavs are looking at next season.
Estimated 2010-11 Cap: $53,000,000
Cavs Payroll 2010-11
D. Gibson $4,088,500
D. Green $457,588
J. Hickson $1,429,200
D. Jackson $736,420
J. Moon $3,000,000
A. Parker $2,644,231
A. Varejao $6,363,636
D. West $4,254,250
M. Williams $8,860,000
Total Salary: $31,833,825
Cap Room: $21,166,175
Can go over the cap to resign:
LeBron James
Zydrunas Ilgauskas
Shaquille O'Neal
Leon Powe
Jawad Williams
If LeBron agrees to come back, they would have room to sign a max player, as long as they sign that player first, then they can go over the cap to sign LeBron, Z, and Shaq if they want. This is of course if they don't add a guy with a deal that lasts past this season. They should keep this in mind and only add someone they know still has a few years left in them at a high level. Of course, if they know LeBron isn't coming back, then might as well sell out to try and get a title this year and the future be damned.
I don't think a playoff caliber Phoenix Suns team is going to put Amar'e on the block. I just don't see it happening. Of course, I could be wrong.devil1197 wrote:Did I say Cleveland should trade for either of them?IggyPride00 wrote:No, and if they were there are teams that could give back alot more than JJ and an expiring contract. Neither of those teams are in contract dump mode, and we have very little by the way of talent to give back to them.Bosh/Amar'e on the blocks???
Nope, its a part of the article. Amar'e will definitely be on the blocks once again but Bosh won't be leaving TOR until the offseason. The Raptors could at least win a series in the playoffs imo.
Fuck this Z only gets traded if he is gonna get bought out bullshit. I agree with Michael Reghi Cleveland needs a 2nd scorer because Mo Williams disappears in big games. Z has a sexy contract get rid of him and if you get him back you get him back if not then oh well its about winning a championship NOW. There is no guarantee Lebron is back next year and if hes not you aren't sniffing an NBA championship anytime soon.Cleveland Buck wrote: Since I was incorrect in my understanding of the rules, the Cavs definitely need to make a move, provided they know Z will be bought out.
Agreed, if its there, take it, take it now!Midstate01 wrote: According to B.W. New blog, the arizona republic says the cavs and suns are having talks about Amare. He goes on to say it'd most likely be Z, JJ, and maybe picks. The suns would almost definetly buy out z and save themselves around 10 mil. He also says Z has already been paid about 75% of his contract for the year, it was set up that way, so the suns wouldn't need big money to buy Z out.
Earlier in this thread I wondered if the suns would look to trade Amare. I'd love this deal!!
