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NBA Finals Rematch, plus bonus Kobe going for 25K discussion

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JakeGiant

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Jan 18, 2010 2:50 PM
Tonight on TNT(10:30), we'll see rematch of last year's NBA Finals. Additionally, Kobe Bean is 30 points away from doing something only 14 other NBA Players have done; reach 25,000 in Points. Kobe will be the youngest to achieve this feat.

Thoughts?

Oh yeah, Go Lakers!
Jan 18, 2010 2:50pm
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devil1197

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Jan 18, 2010 2:57 PM
He will be the youngest until Bron breaks it as he is breaking every scoring record with his age.
Jan 18, 2010 2:57pm
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Jan 18, 2010 3:01 PM
devil1197 wrote: He will be the youngest until Bron breaks it as he is breaking every scoring record with his age.
Yea all of Kobe's "Youngest to Score ...." don't mean jack b.c they'll all be broken by James eventually, who will probably never lose those records b.c of the age rule. I'm cool with that.

The game should be pretty good though. I don't think Kobe will hit 25k tonight, I think he needs 30 points on the dot. I say he goes for 26.
Jan 18, 2010 3:01pm
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devil1197

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Jan 18, 2010 3:03 PM
Serious note: Lakers should roll as Orlando isn't close to last years team imo.
Jan 18, 2010 3:03pm
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Jan 18, 2010 3:05 PM
devil1197 wrote: Serious note: Lakers should roll as Orlando isn't close to last years team imo.
They were stupid for blowing up a roster that didn't need it.
Jan 18, 2010 3:05pm
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devil1197

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Jan 18, 2010 3:06 PM
Trueblue23 wrote:
devil1197 wrote: Serious note: Lakers should roll as Orlando isn't close to last years team imo.
They were stupid for blowing up a roster that didn't need it.
Yeah shoulda paid Turk
Jan 18, 2010 3:06pm
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Lovejoy1984

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Jan 18, 2010 3:13 PM
It seemed like everyone on the old huddle knew getting Carter was a bad move, but all the talking heads on ESPN said it was such a great move and it would put them over the top.
Jan 18, 2010 3:13pm
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Jan 18, 2010 3:16 PM
devil1197 wrote: He will be the youngest until Bron breaks it as he is breaking every scoring record with his age.
I was about to write the exact same thing.
Jan 18, 2010 3:16pm
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Jan 18, 2010 3:17 PM
HighRoller74 wrote: It seemed like everyone on the old huddle knew getting Carter was a bad move, but all the talking heads on ESPN said it was such a great move and it would put them over the top.
If VC could stay healthy and accept a different role than he is used to, it very well could.

BUT..

Vince Carter is, and always has been a bitch, and much like Iverson, he will never sacrifice to win a ring.
Jan 18, 2010 3:17pm
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Jan 18, 2010 3:17 PM
Ya, this record will only be around as long as LeBron let's it be around.
Jan 18, 2010 3:17pm
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Lovejoy1984

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Jan 18, 2010 3:17 PM
Trueblue23 wrote:
HighRoller74 wrote: It seemed like everyone on the old huddle knew getting Carter was a bad move, but all the talking heads on ESPN said it was such a great move and it would put them over the top.
If VC could stay healthy and accept a different role than he is used to, it very well could.

BUT..

Vince Carter is, and always has been a bitch, and much like Iverson, he will never sacrifice to win a ring.
Agree with everything you said.
Jan 18, 2010 3:17pm
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Jan 18, 2010 4:19 PM
Yep, a lot of us were happy the moment it was announced that Hedo was leaving and being replaced by Wince Carter..

This should be a great game and I can't wait for it honestly.. While it's not the same Orlando squad, they'll be wanting to prove something and LA has been shaky this month ( but so has Orlando)..

Kobe will get 25k, there is no way he's going to leave that hanging with a chance to get it on National TV.. Even if he has to throw up 30 shots to get it.

Lakers win, probably by a score of 107-100
Jan 18, 2010 4:19pm
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Jan 18, 2010 4:28 PM
Speaking of Carter not being a good addition... I remember when people were floating the idea of the Cavs trading for him.... I would have died if that ended up happening. Carter, TMac, Iverson... those are just some players I really wouldn't want on my team if it was a Championship contending team. Now if the team had no chance, why not. But I don't think those guys have what it takes to put themselves aside and do what's best for the team.
Jan 18, 2010 4:28pm
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Jan 18, 2010 4:49 PM
JakeGiant wrote: Tonight on TNT(10:30), we'll see rematch of last year's NBA Finals. Additionally, Kobe Bean is 30 points away from doing something only 14 other NBA Players have done; reach 25,000 in Points. Kobe will be the youngest to achieve this feat.

Thoughts?

Oh yeah, Go Lakers!

The whole "youngest" to reach certain levels in points or whatever is pretty stupid to me, with the age to play in the NBA changing several times over the years. It should be by fewest # of games to reach a certain level of points.

For example:

Wilt took 492 games to reach 20,000 pts
Jordan 617 games
Kareem 683 games
Bird 797 games
Karl Malone 754 games
Iverson 714 games
Kobe 841 games
Lebron currently has played 514 games and is at 14236 pts and will probally need another 210 games to reach 20000 pts giving him 714 games.


The way Kevin Durant is scoring he may end up there pretty high also.
Jan 18, 2010 4:49pm
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september63

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Jan 18, 2010 5:16 PM
Wilt would have done it in 300 games had he not been banging so many chicks!!
Jan 18, 2010 5:16pm
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ZombieKiller

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Jan 18, 2010 5:29 PM
Kobe will get his 30, while taking 30+ shots.
Jan 18, 2010 5:29pm
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Jan 18, 2010 5:50 PM
Durant will be the scoring champ before all is said and done.
Jan 18, 2010 5:50pm
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Jan 18, 2010 6:01 PM
devil1197 wrote:
Trueblue23 wrote:
devil1197 wrote: Serious note: Lakers should roll as Orlando isn't close to last years team imo.
They were stupid for blowing up a roster that didn't need it.
Yeah shoulda paid Turk
Yep. Not to mention that they should not have gotten rid of Courteny Lee...he flourished in their system.
Jan 18, 2010 6:01pm
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Jan 18, 2010 6:02 PM
And now he is on the lowly Nets. Dumb, dumb move. What they really needed to do was leave the team alone and get rid of Ron Jeremy.
Jan 18, 2010 6:02pm
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Jan 18, 2010 6:06 PM
Also, I agree with TrueBlue....when Lebron breaks these records, they won't be broken because of the age rule.

I look for the Lakers to win this one, but who cares....I wish it was the playoffs already. We all know who the contenders are, so the discussions are getting very stale.
Jan 18, 2010 6:06pm
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Jan 18, 2010 7:56 PM
Skyhook79 wrote:
JakeGiant wrote: Tonight on TNT(10:30), we'll see rematch of last year's NBA Finals. Additionally, Kobe Bean is 30 points away from doing something only 14 other NBA Players have done; reach 25,000 in Points. Kobe will be the youngest to achieve this feat.

Thoughts?

Oh yeah, Go Lakers!

The whole "youngest" to reach certain levels in points or whatever is pretty stupid to me, with the age to play in the NBA changing several times over the years. It should be by fewest # of games to reach a certain level of points.

For example:

Wilt took 492 games to reach 20,000 pts
Jordan 617 games
Kareem 683 games
Bird 797 games
Karl Malone 754 games
Iverson 714 games
Kobe 841 games
Lebron currently has played 514 games and is at 14236 pts and will probally need another 210 games to reach 20000 pts giving him 714 games.


The way Kevin Durant is scoring he may end up there pretty high also.
But they represent two different things...

Yes, LeBron will be the youngest, but could have have got to those milestones faster game wise if he did spend 3-4 years in college first like some of the people above? Think how much better his game would have been before entering the NBA.

So it's kind of silly to point at one being better. What's impressive is how LeBron was able to dominate while being so young, it's kind of foolish to just discount that.
Jan 18, 2010 7:56pm
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Jan 18, 2010 8:04 PM
Fly4Fun wrote:
Skyhook79 wrote:
JakeGiant wrote: Tonight on TNT(10:30), we'll see rematch of last year's NBA Finals. Additionally, Kobe Bean is 30 points away from doing something only 14 other NBA Players have done; reach 25,000 in Points. Kobe will be the youngest to achieve this feat.

Thoughts?

Oh yeah, Go Lakers!

The whole "youngest" to reach certain levels in points or whatever is pretty stupid to me, with the age to play in the NBA changing several times over the years. It should be by fewest # of games to reach a certain level of points.

For example:

Wilt took 492 games to reach 20,000 pts
Jordan 617 games
Kareem 683 games
Bird 797 games
Karl Malone 754 games
Iverson 714 games
Kobe 841 games
Lebron currently has played 514 games and is at 14236 pts and will probally need another 210 games to reach 20000 pts giving him 714 games.


The way Kevin Durant is scoring he may end up there pretty high also.
But they represent two different things...

Yes, LeBron will be the youngest, but could have have got to those milestones faster game wise if he did spend 3-4 years in college first like some of the people above? Think how much better his game would have been before entering the NBA.

So it's kind of silly to point at one being better. What's impressive is how LeBron was able to dominate while being so young, it's kind of foolish to just discount that.
I don't think he would have got there quicker. He has been option 1, 2, and 3 for his entire career.
Jan 18, 2010 8:04pm
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2quik4u

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Jan 18, 2010 8:05 PM
Fly4Fun wrote:
Skyhook79 wrote:
JakeGiant wrote: Tonight on TNT(10:30), we'll see rematch of last year's NBA Finals. Additionally, Kobe Bean is 30 points away from doing something only 14 other NBA Players have done; reach 25,000 in Points. Kobe will be the youngest to achieve this feat.

Thoughts?

Oh yeah, Go Lakers!

The whole "youngest" to reach certain levels in points or whatever is pretty stupid to me, with the age to play in the NBA changing several times over the years. It should be by fewest # of games to reach a certain level of points.

For example:

Wilt took 492 games to reach 20,000 pts
Jordan 617 games
Kareem 683 games
Bird 797 games
Karl Malone 754 games
Iverson 714 games
Kobe 841 games
Lebron currently has played 514 games and is at 14236 pts and will probally need another 210 games to reach 20000 pts giving him 714 games.


The way Kevin Durant is scoring he may end up there pretty high also.
But they represent two different things...

Yes, LeBron will be the youngest, but could have have got to those milestones faster game wise if he did spend 3-4 years in college first like some of the people above? Think how much better his game would have been before entering the NBA.

So it's kind of silly to point at one being better. What's impressive is how LeBron was able to dominate while being so young, it's kind of foolish to just discount that.
Same could be said for Kobe, a lot people forget that Kobe came off the bench his first two years
Jan 18, 2010 8:05pm
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devil1197

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Jan 18, 2010 8:30 PM
Yeah Kobe wasn't good enough physically or mentally to have a whole franchise put on his shoulders as an 18 year old.

He had his shot to carry a franchise but he went the easy route and demanded to be traded to the Lakers on draft night.
Jan 18, 2010 8:30pm
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2quik4u

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Jan 18, 2010 8:42 PM
devil1197 wrote: Yeah Kobe wasn't good enough physically or mentally to have a whole franchise put on his shoulders as an 18 year old.

He had his shot to carry a franchise but he went the easy route and demanded to be traded to the Lakers on draft night.
Ok so Lebron matured faster then Kobe, good for him
Jan 18, 2010 8:42pm