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Andre Dawson sole inductee to Baseball HOF

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Jan 6, 2010 2:11 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/hof10/news/story?id=4801847

Roberto Alomar, Edgar Martinez, Barry Larkin and Fred McGriff were up for the first time this year as well but didn't get the necessary number of votes to be inducted.
Jan 6, 2010 2:11pm
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Jan 6, 2010 2:19 PM
Andre Dawson 420 77.9%
Bert Blyleven 400 74.2%
Roberto Alomar 397 73.7%
Jack Morris 282 52.3%
Barry Larkin 278 51.6%
Lee Smith 255 47.3%
Edgar Martinez 195 36.2%
Tim Raines 164 30.4%
Mark McGwire 128 23.7%
Alan Trammell 121 22.4%
Fred McGriff 116 21.5%
Don Mattingly 87 16.1%
Dave Parker 82 15.2%
Dale Murphy 63 11.7%
Harold Baines 33 6.1%
Andres Galarraga 22 4.1%
Robin Ventura 7 1.3%
Ellis Burks 2 0.4%
Eric Karros 2 0.4%
Kevin Appier 1 0.2%
Pat Hentgen 1 0.2%
David Segui 1 0.2%
Mike Jackson 0 0.0%
Ray Lankford 0 0.0%
Shane Reynolds 0 0.0%
Todd Zeile 0 0.0%
Jan 6, 2010 2:19pm
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Nate

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Jan 6, 2010 2:24 PM
I still think its crazy you need 75% of the vote to get in.
Jan 6, 2010 2:24pm
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Jan 6, 2010 2:24 PM
Blyleven once again increases his % but misses ... again. How is it that his % of votes goes up every year?
Jan 6, 2010 2:24pm
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Jan 6, 2010 2:24 PM
Bout damn time. I used to skip school in the good old days to watch WGN and the Cubbies.
Jan 6, 2010 2:24pm
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Jan 6, 2010 2:39 PM
How did Todd Zeile not get in???
Jan 6, 2010 2:39pm
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Jan 6, 2010 2:43 PM
How Robbie Alomar is NOT in the HOF after his first year eligibility I do not understand.
Jan 6, 2010 2:43pm
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Jan 6, 2010 2:45 PM
Who the hell voted for David Segui? haha

Switching gears, do you think Robbie Alomar's current condition (AIDS) has any impact on his HOF status? Genuine question, I thought Alomar was a great ballplayer (before he came to the Mets, of course!), but does this virus hurt his chances? You can argue that Magic Johnson's popularity actually increased post-HIV, so I am not sure either way.
Jan 6, 2010 2:45pm
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Jan 6, 2010 3:56 PM
Alomar will be in next year. There are a bunch of guys that just won't vote for someone their first time up with very few exceptions.
Jan 6, 2010 3:56pm
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Jan 6, 2010 4:00 PM
Tim Raines stats....please go look at them, theyre much better then quittttte a few HOF players
Jan 6, 2010 4:00pm
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Jan 6, 2010 4:55 PM
Correct me if I am wrong but can't they vote for as many players as they like?
Jan 6, 2010 4:55pm
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Jan 6, 2010 5:01 PM
Keebler wrote: Correct me if I am wrong but can't they vote for as many players as they like?
They can vote for 10.
Jan 6, 2010 5:01pm
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Jan 6, 2010 5:09 PM
This year should have included Blyleven and Morris, too. Very overlooked players. Larkin and Alomar should go in within the next two years.
Jan 6, 2010 5:09pm
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Jan 6, 2010 5:24 PM
Alomar got absolutely jobbed!! Who the hell is voting for these people? Like they were saying on ESPN, Alomar is one of the top 2nd basemen of all time and he doesn't get enough votes to get in. Sure, he will probably get in next year but it makes absolutely no sense why he isn't a 1st ballot HOFer.
Jan 6, 2010 5:24pm
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Jan 6, 2010 5:29 PM
Andre Dawson 420 77.9%
Bert Blyleven 400 74.2%
Roberto Alomar 397 73.7%
Jack Morris 282 52.3%
Barry Larkin 278 51.6%
Lee Smith 255 47.3%
Edgar Martinez 195 36.2%
Tim Raines 164 30.4%
Mark McGwire 128 23.7%
Alan Trammell 121 22.4%
Fred McGriff 116 21.5%
Don Mattingly 87 16.1%
Dave Parker 82 15.2%
Dale Murphy 63 11.7%
Harold Baines 33 6.1%
Andres Galarraga 22 4.1%
Robin Ventura 7 1.3%
Ellis Burks 2 0.4%
Eric Karros 2 0.4%
Kevin Appier 1 0.2%
Pat Hentgen 1 0.2%
David Segui 1 0.2%
Mike Jackson 0 0.0%
Ray Lankford 0 0.0%
Shane Reynolds 0 0.0%
Todd Zeile 0 0.0%

Should be in.
Jan 6, 2010 5:29pm
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Jan 6, 2010 5:29 PM
bucks36 wrote: Alomar got absolutely jobbed!! Who the hell is voting for these people? Like they were saying on ESPN, Alomar is one of the top 2nd basemen of all time and he doesn't get enough votes to get in. Sure, he will probably get in next year but it makes absolutely no sense why he isn't a 1st ballot HOFer.
Agree completely but will go one step farther and say he is the BEST 2nd baseman of all time. If anyone deserved to be a first ballet HOF, it was Alomar.
Jan 6, 2010 5:29pm
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Jan 6, 2010 5:37 PM
The most egregious is the absence of Blyleven...absolutely should be in. This may have been his last year before his selection moves to the veteran's comittee? Alomar and Dawson are clear-cut. I frankly think from Larkin and Morris on down ........not HOF'ers...but great ones nonetheless.
Jan 6, 2010 5:37pm
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Jan 6, 2010 6:24 PM
Hb31187 wrote: Tim Raines stats....please go look at them, theyre much better then quittttte a few HOF players
His cocaine issues are probably at fault here, as wrong as that is.
Jan 6, 2010 6:24pm
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Jan 6, 2010 6:30 PM
Alomar got the most votes for someone in their first year of eligibility who didn't get in.
Jan 6, 2010 6:30pm
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Jan 6, 2010 8:39 PM
ALOMAR is one of the best all-around players for a long stretch of time....I believe only Barry Bonds was a better all-around player.

Base running....absolutely one of THE very best
Defense......THE absolute best
Hitting......very good
Power...solid

10 Gold gloves and 2700+ hits for a 2nd baseman.....HOF If you are voting for the HOF and you don't vote in a player when only one gets elected....then when do you ever. A bunch of old crotchety idiots I guess.
Jan 6, 2010 8:39pm
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Jan 6, 2010 10:58 PM
What an embarrassment for the BBWAA.

Blyleven? Again, on the outside looking in.
Alomar? One of the 10 best second basemen in history? No dice.
Larkin? One of the FIVE best shortstops in history (yes, even ahead of Ozzie)? Apparently not enough.
Raines? Second-best leadoff man in the history of the world? Oh, sorry, what you did for six months when you were 22 and cocaine was being considered "the new recreational drug" is apparently too much to overcome.

But Andre freakin' Dawson...he of the most undeserved MVP award in the history of the game....THAT is a Hall of Famer? What a joke.

What an absolute joke.
Jan 6, 2010 10:58pm
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Jan 7, 2010 10:03 AM
Without WGN, Dawson doesn't sniff the HOF. Period. He was a very good player but had he been a Kansas City Royal or a Texas Ranger, there would be no chance he gets in.

Larkin, Alomar and Blyleven all deserve in. And Tim Raines is far more deserving than Andre Dawson and it is not even close. Raines's biggest sin isn't his drug abuse but not playing in a big market while he was in his prime.
Jan 7, 2010 10:03am
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Jan 7, 2010 11:32 AM
The spit was an incident that he more than made up for. He and Hirschbeck shook hands in April at a game the following season and Alomar isa big on raising funds for Hirschbeck's fund raiser for what his child died from.

Hirschbeck and Alomar are good friends.

Some baseball writers are idiots. The one on ESPN this morning had 10 possible nominations and he nominated Alomar, McGwire and Lee Smith.....that's it. Just like he randomly picks...and his reasons were horrible.
Jan 7, 2010 11:32am
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Jan 7, 2010 11:47 AM
Blyleven gets jobbed year after year...

its a shame. They need to take the voting out of the hands of sportswriters who have never played the game a day in their life at the pro level and put in the hands of baseball people(ex players, managers, GM's, etc.) who know what they're talking about
Jan 7, 2010 11:47am