Yet you denigrate Hits because he has concerns about the kind of "Socialism" Bernie really espouses. Comrade Bernie has a history on this matter and its nothing near the mix of various social programs adopted by Canada. He was a big fan of Eugene Debs. Comrade Bernie in a documentary of Debs spoke as the voice of Debs. Hearing in his distinct Brooklyn accent mouth the words of something out of Das Kapital or the Communist Manifesto is troubling (clips would make some nice political commercials). I know they are not his words but I think we all know why he did it. I have read news articles which state that a portrait of Debs hangs on the wall in his senate office. Could be total BS I don't know never been to his office.

Perhaps Comrade Bernie has evolved from the days of his radical leftist past? Is he just being pragmatic with what is politically feasible? Does he still hold to the tenets of Socialism espoused by Eugene Debs? If not what changed his mind? These are questions I think should be asked.

Wolves of Babylon;1780278 wrote:Marco getting crushed by Christie

BoatShoes;1780240 wrote:Going full Quaker lately. Canada is not a communist country. Hong Kong is not a communist country. These countries have guaranteed paid leave and universal healthcare, etc. If you disagree with these things that's fine but you're not going to win hearts and minds by going "Communist!!"

You claim you want a unified country but you denigrate people who don't share your opinions.

Wolves of Babylon;1780308 wrote:Good thing for Rubio this was a Saturday night debate. It was hilarious Christie kept saying Rubio just repeats the same soundbite over and over and right on cue Rubio would say it again.

I'm not a huge fan of Christie but he is good in debates.



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HitsRus;1780255 wrote:He is definitely in the cross hairs he's been pretty good at parrying the attacks so far. So you think there motivation is to bring Rubio down to promote who?... Themselves?.... If Rubio was destroyed, people would flock to Bush or Christie?
Nah, I don't think so, Boat. Basically they don't have a message that is resonating with the voters.... And Rubio's experience has nothing to do with it.

majorspark;1780256 wrote:Yet you denigrate Hits because he has concerns about the kind of "Socialism" Bernie really espouses. Comrade Bernie has a history on this matter and its nothing near the mix of various social programs adopted by Canada. He was a big fan of Eugene Debs. Comrade Bernie in a documentary of Debs spoke as the voice of Debs. Hearing in his distinct Brooklyn accent mouth the words of something out of Das Kapital or the Communist Manifesto is troubling (clips would make some nice political commercials). I know they are not his words but I think we all know why he did it. I have read news articles which state that a portrait of Debs hangs on the wall in his senate office. Could be total BS I don't know never been to his office.

Perhaps Comrade Bernie has evolved from the days of his radical leftist past? Is he just being pragmatic with what is politically feasible? Does he still hold to the tenets of Socialism espoused by Eugene Debs? If not what changed his mind? These are questions I think should be asked.

fish82;1780254 wrote:Agreed. Joe has the "scoff" down to an art form.

Spock;1780312 wrote:i would love to see Chris Christie CRUSH Hiliary in a debate

BoatShoes;1780318 wrote:To be sure though...I do not think the GOP running ads about Sanders' past in the general would be a good thing.

Hillary has been attacked by the GOP for two decadecades and is still standing.

BoatShoes;1780316 wrote:I think Bush still has a chance to get the establishment to come to the conclusion he is the Romeny-type experienced, old school pub the GOP needs.

Spock;1780329 wrote:Its not hard to be standing when you havent stood up.

Con_Alma;1780319 wrote:Mr. Sanders may not fit the pure definition of a communist but he espouses ideas that push further towards social ownership of existing social programs than we currently experience. That combined with a liberal minded social views does not reflect what I would seek to desire in the Executive Office.

I'm still trying to find to what level he's been effective in his current capacity. What has he done as a legislator? What bills has he authored that have been passed in the House of Representatives?

Give me the positive things about him as a legislator to determine if that's enough information to override the significant differences in ideology.

ZWICK 4 PREZ;1780431 wrote:362 bills he's authored. 3 have passed.

S. 893 (113th): Veterans’ Compensation Cost-of-Living Adjustment Act of 2013Sponsor: Sen. Bernard “Bernie” Sanders [I-VT]
Introduced: May 8, 2013
Enacted — Signed by the President: Nov 21, 2013
S. 885 (113th): A bill to designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 35 Park Street in Danville, Vermont, as the “Thaddeus Stevens Post Office”.Sponsor: Sen. Bernard “Bernie” Sanders [I-VT]
Introduced: May 7, 2013
Enacted — Signed by the President: Nov 26, 2014

H.R. 5245 (109th): To designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 1 Marble Street in Fair Haven, Vermont, as the “Matthew Lyon Post Office Building”.Sponsor: Sen. Bernard “Bernie” Sanders [I-VT]
Introduced: Apr 27, 2006
Enacted — Signed by the President: Aug 2, 2006



Then you look at the top 3 Republican candidates...

Trump, obviously zero.
Cruz. 1
Rubio 1

So that's means he's gotten more passed than all 3 Republican candidates combined.

ZWICK 4 PREZ;1780431 wrote:362 bills he's authored. 3 have passed.

S. 893 (113th): Veterans’ Compensation Cost-of-Living Adjustment Act of 2013Sponsor: Sen. Bernard “Bernie” Sanders [I-VT]
Introduced: May 8, 2013
Enacted — Signed by the President: Nov 21, 2013
S. 885 (113th): A bill to designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 35 Park Street in Danville, Vermont, as the “Thaddeus Stevens Post Office”.Sponsor: Sen. Bernard “Bernie” Sanders [I-VT]
Introduced: May 7, 2013
Enacted — Signed by the President: Nov 26, 2014

H.R. 5245 (109th): To designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 1 Marble Street in Fair Haven, Vermont, as the “Matthew Lyon Post Office Building”.Sponsor: Sen. Bernard “Bernie” Sanders [I-VT]
Introduced: Apr 27, 2006
Enacted — Signed by the President: Aug 2, 2006



Then you look at the top 3 Republican candidates...

Trump, obviously zero.
Cruz. 1
Rubio 1

So that's means he's gotten more passed than all 3 Republican candidates combined.

SportsAndLady;1780437 wrote:How long has Bernie been a US senator?

Con_Alma;1780319 wrote:Mr. Sanders may not fit the pure definition of a communist but he espouses ideas that push further towards social ownership of existing social programs than we currently experience. That combined with a liberal minded social views does not reflect what I would seek to desire in the Executive Office.

I'm still trying to find to what level he's been effective in his current capacity. What has he done as a legislator? What bills has he authored that have been passed in the House of Representatives?

Give me the positive things about him as a legislator to determine if that's enough information to override the significant differences in ideology.

BoatShoes;1780440 wrote:It is one thing not to support Sanders or Ted Cruz because they do not share one's values. It is another thing to act like the United Sates is "Doomed" if they get elected.