I'd much rather have locker. Least he has the physical tools, dalton is just a bum. Bailed out by Green like Bradshaw. He brings nothing to the table. Bengals should have been competing for an AFC championship, and weren't bc Dalton sucks ass. I didn't even list Rookies I'd rather have long term in the NFL. I just listed QBs to play a TODAY I'd rather have.SportsAndLady;1639066 wrote:Locker over Dalton? Cmon
Lol yeah Mallet being there is absolutely laughable. No way I take Glennon or Locker over Dalton either. But I would add Ryan, Romo, and probably Foles and Hoyer too.Terry_Tate;1639072 wrote:Carson Palmer and Jake Locker? LOL. And Ryan Mallett? I'm a Dalton hater but those are ridiculous. Brian Hoyer would be a better choice than any of those 3. Take them off and add Hoyer, Foles, and Matt Ryan then it looks alright.
I'm not sure on Hoyer. Foles and Ryan are a definite. Thanks, I'll edit.Terry_Tate;1639072 wrote:Carson Palmer and Jake Locker? LOL. And Ryan Mallett? I'm a Dalton hater but those are ridiculous. Brian Hoyer would be a better choice than any of those 3. Take them off and add Hoyer, Foles, and Matt Ryan then it looks alright.
It's a big move to take a playoff team and start over with a new QB. Especially for a fragile franchise like Cincinnati that has really only become a legitimately stable franchise in the last decade. It would need to be an absolute can't miss prospect, and one they would likely have to draft outside of the top 20 (or significantly pay to trade up). You then look at the success of guys drafted in that range (many have been mentioned in this thread...Locker, Tannehill, Ponder) and realize it's probably not worth completely giving up 2 years (the year before AND rookie year) to do so. Their chances of Dalton just becoming 10-20% better is much greater, and hence, why it's such a precarious position. It's one that about 25% of NFL franchises are currently stuck in...because the QB is such an important factor in winning.Mulva;1639092 wrote:I would rather have Locker over Dalton if he could stay healthy. But he can't. The other guys questioned are bums, but Dalton is still probably somewhere in the 18-20 range of NFL QB's, in my opinion.
If your best reasoning for giving a guy mega bucks is "we could do worse", then something is seriously wrong.
Nobody is arguing that it is a difficult decision, but this still doesn't mean Dalton is a top 10 QB LOL.Azubuike24;1639217 wrote:It's a big move to take a playoff team and start over with a new QB. Especially for a fragile franchise like Cincinnati that has really only become a legitimately stable franchise in the last decade. It would need to be an absolute can't miss prospect, and one they would likely have to draft outside of the top 20 (or significantly pay to trade up). You then look at the success of guys drafted in that range (many have been mentioned in this thread...Locker, Tannehill, Ponder) and realize it's probably not worth completely giving up 2 years (the year before AND rookie year) to do so. Their chances of Dalton just becoming 10-20% better is much greater, and hence, why it's such a precarious position. It's one that about 25% of NFL franchises are currently stuck in...because the QB is such an important factor in winning.
Uhhh pretty sure knocking your wife out cold should be considered worse than smoking weed a few times. Also Gordon missed his test, he didn't fail it.friendfromlowry;1639653 wrote:I'm asking this out of curiosity as I'm too lazy to look up the who, what, when, and where details. Isn't comparing Josh Gordon's suspension vs. Ray Rice different in that Gordon has been busted multiple times, where as this has been Rice's one and only (and hopefully last) instance. Gordon wasn't caught just once and is now facing a potential year long ban, right? It's because he's been busted repeatedly that he's now facing it. If Rice was caught beating his wife three times, then he'd probably be facing a comparable ban as well. Like I said, not asking rhetorically trying to stir anything up.
I know what you are saying but you're comparing two actions that are on different levels.friendfromlowry;1639653 wrote:I'm asking this out of curiosity as I'm too lazy to look up the who, what, when, and where details. Isn't comparing Josh Gordon's suspension vs. Ray Rice different in that Gordon has been busted multiple times, where as this has been Rice's one and only (and hopefully last) instance. Gordon wasn't caught just once and is now facing a potential year long ban, right? It's because he's been busted repeatedly that he's now facing it. If Rice was caught beating his wife three times, then he'd probably be facing a comparable ban as well. Like I said, not asking rhetorically trying to stir anything up.
I didn't say one was/wasn't worse than the other. I agree abuse is way worse and Rice's suspension was underwhelming to say the least. I'm just trying to find some type of rationalization for the way the NFL does things.like_that;1639654 wrote:Uhhh pretty sure knocking your wife out cold should be considered worse than smoking weed a few times. Also Gordon missed his test, he didn't fail it.
Why did he miss it?like_that;1639654 wrote:Uhhh pretty sure knocking your wife out cold should be considered worse than smoking weed a few times. Also Gordon missed his test, he didn't fail it.
He was in town apparently.Ironman92;1639660 wrote:Why did he miss it?
Maybe if he focused a little more on football and a little less on being goofey he would have more than one Super Bowl title right now.Dr. KnOiTaLL;1639739 wrote:
lol, you're bi-polar, amirite?IggyPride00;1639747 wrote:Maybe if he focused a little more on football and a little less on being goofey he would have more than one Super Bowl title right now.
You'd think the Seahawks beatdown might have humbled him a bit and made him want it just a little more. Clearly had the opposite effect.
IMO he wants to see how far he can go, but the mods aren't taking the bait...yet.Automatik;1639748 wrote:Someone please ban this miserable fuck.
vball10set;1639751 wrote:IMO he wants to see how far he can go, but the mods aren't taking the bait...yet.
