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Mar 12, 2014 10:42 AM
like_that;1589322 wrote:Winston said he will stay at FSU beyond next year, so you can't even count on him to even be there. Even if he was there will be other teams that are desperate for a QB, so we will need a redskins/rg3 type trade to get him. That's worked out great for the skins!!!
Great point. If there is this consensus "super star QB" next year, do you think the team that is in a position to draft him and completely change their franchise around is just going to want to trade out of that position? Also, do you think other teams looking for a QB aren't going to try and trade up? They're just going to let the browns take care of that?

Lol for Christ sakes zwick pull your head out of your ass. We have the 4th overall pick and there seems to be 3 very capable QBs in this draft that we are in a position to draft. No more fucking around at the QB position and just draft one of them.
Mar 12, 2014 10:42am
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Mar 12, 2014 10:43 AM
Automatik;1589324 wrote:Hundley, Petty, Mariota, Winston

Manziel, Bortles, Bridgewater, Carr


Not saying this year's class is outstanding, but no way can you say next year's is far and away better.
Don't forget Winston might not come out. I'm not sold on mariotta. I actually think Hundley could be the best of the bunch.
Mar 12, 2014 10:43am
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Mar 12, 2014 10:43 AM
When did the Watkins at #4 talk start and why? I haven't heard shit about Cleveland taking him until yesterday when my roommates brought it up.
Mar 12, 2014 10:43am
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Mar 12, 2014 10:45 AM
Automatik;1589335 wrote:When did the Watkins at #4 talk start and why? I haven't heard shit about Cleveland taking him until yesterday when my roommates brought it up.
Because he tore up OSU in his last game so his stock is really high. And just imagine him, a super star, paired up with josh Gordon, a super star! Super Bowl in Cleveland!!!!!
Mar 12, 2014 10:45am
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Mar 12, 2014 10:45 AM
When the Schaub rumor came out.
Mar 12, 2014 10:45am
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Mar 12, 2014 10:46 AM
like_that;1589322 wrote:Winston said he will stay at FSU beyond next year, so you can't even count on him to even be there. Even if he was there will be other teams that are desperate for a QB, so we will need a redskins/rg3 type trade to get him. That's worked out great for the skins!!!
Plus, who says the browns would even be in position to draft him next year if he did come out? There are alot of teams out there worse off than the browns who will put together a stellar 2-4 win season and be salivating to draft him, and I see the browns drafting more in the 16-18 spot next year.
Mar 12, 2014 10:46am
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Mar 12, 2014 10:46 AM
like_that;1589333 wrote:Don't forget Winston might not come out. I'm not sold on mariotta. I actually think Hundley could be the best of the bunch.
no way he runs from the money.. he's already got a NC. Nothing more to prove.
Mar 12, 2014 10:46am
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Mar 12, 2014 10:47 AM
Automatik;1589335 wrote:When did the Watkins at #4 talk start and why? I haven't heard shit about Cleveland taking him until yesterday when my roommates brought it up.
B/c he's the best offensive player in the draft. Period.
Mar 12, 2014 10:47am
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Mar 12, 2014 10:48 AM
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1589340 wrote:no way he runs from the money.. he's already got a NC. Nothing more to prove.
So you want to take the chance to trade 3 first round picks for a guy that said he won't be coming out after next season? Got it.
Mar 12, 2014 10:48am
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Mar 12, 2014 10:49 AM
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1589340 wrote:no way he runs from the money.. he's already got a NC. Nothing more to prove.
I concur.
Unless something happens next seasonlike playing horrible. and he needs to play another season to regain his draft status then I believe he leaves.
Mar 12, 2014 10:49am
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Mar 12, 2014 10:50 AM
like_that;1589343 wrote:So you want to take the chance to trade 3 first round picks for a guy that said he won't be coming out after next season? Got it.

No one would trade 3 first round picks. Quit being silly.
Mar 12, 2014 10:50am
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Mar 12, 2014 10:51 AM
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1589346 wrote:No one would trade 3 first round picks. Quit being silly.
That precedent has been set. The team with the first pick, if they even wanna trade out, will ask for that, at least. If teams won't do it, they'll simply draft Winston.
Mar 12, 2014 10:51am
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Mar 12, 2014 10:52 AM
SportsAndLady;1589337 wrote:Because he tore up OSU in his last game so his stock is really high. And just imagine him, a super star, paired up with josh Gordon, a super star! Super Bowl in Cleveland!!!!!
I do think he will be a stud in the NFL, regardless of who he plays for. I just don't think taking him at 4 would be in Cleveland's best interest, but that's just me. I said I'd take Teddy B from the beginning and I'm sticking with it!
Mar 12, 2014 10:52am
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Mar 12, 2014 10:52 AM
My point is you're banking on a crop of QB's who not one is screaming "draft me, I'm your franchise!" It's not any of a safer pick than going with Watkins.
Mar 12, 2014 10:52am
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Mar 12, 2014 10:54 AM
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1589346 wrote:No one would trade 3 first round picks. Quit being silly.
You don't remember the redskins trading 3 first round picks for a QB that wasn't even the best in his class?
Mar 12, 2014 10:54am
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Mar 12, 2014 10:54 AM
SportsAndLady;1589348 wrote:That precedent has been set. The team with the first pick, if they even wanna trade out, will ask for that, at least. If teams won't do it, they'll simply draft Winston.
Then more power to them. There's always going to be QB classes like this one. And the browns aren't a QB away from winning it all.. especially with these QB's
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Mar 12, 2014 10:56 AM
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1589353 wrote:Then more power to them. There's always going to be QB classes like this one. And the browns aren't a QB away from winning it all.. especially with these QB's
With that logic we should always wait until next year to get a QB. No one is saying drafting a rookie QB will ascend the browns to the SB in one year. You eventually have to draft a legitimate QB prospect and groom him though.
Mar 12, 2014 10:56am
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Mar 12, 2014 10:57 AM
I'm sticking with Bridgewater as well. I prefer Bortles, but think he'll be first QB off the board, and probably the #1 pick.
Mar 12, 2014 10:57am
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Mar 12, 2014 10:58 AM
Schefty reporting Ben Tate is meeting with the browns right now.
Mar 12, 2014 10:58am
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Mar 12, 2014 11:02 AM
like_that;1589355 wrote:With that logic we should always wait until next year to get a QB. No one is saying drafting a rookie QB will ascend the browns to the SB in one year. You eventually have to draft a legitimate QB prospect and groom him though.
No by that logic we need to get the right QB
Mar 12, 2014 11:02am
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Mar 12, 2014 11:05 AM
I take Bridgewater at 4 if Watkins is gone.

Bortles makes me leery as a one hit wonder. He does seem to have a tremendous ceiling though.
Mar 12, 2014 11:05am
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Mar 12, 2014 11:06 AM
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1589360 wrote:I take Bridgewater at 4 if Watkins is gone.

Bortles makes me leery as a one hit wonder. He does seem to have a tremendous ceiling though.
Who do you think would possibly take Watkins before 4? Highly doubt that happens.
Mar 12, 2014 11:06am
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Mar 12, 2014 11:09 AM
like_that;1589362 wrote:Who do you think would possibly take Watkins before 4? Highly doubt that happens.
I doubt it does either but detroit has expressed interest in trading up for him.
Mar 12, 2014 11:09am
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Mar 12, 2014 11:10 AM
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1589360 wrote:I take Bridgewater at 4 if Watkins is gone.

Bortles makes me leery as a one hit wonder. He does seem to have a tremendous ceiling though.
Bortles last two years at UCF were good, he's not a one hit wonder.
Mar 12, 2014 11:10am
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Mar 12, 2014 11:13 AM
se-alum;1589366 wrote:Bortles last two years at UCF were good, he's not a one hit wonder.

He had better numbers his senior year which is when everyone started talking about him though.
Mar 12, 2014 11:13am