iqqy;1560685 wrote:Florio on PFT is saying that McDaniels could bring Matt Cassel to Cleveland with him to be in the QB picture with Hoyer and whoever we draft.

We're going to be the JV version of the Patriots before long.

bases_loaded;1560706 wrote:I think Mariotta throws his hat in the ring soon

rrfan;1560712 wrote:Browns will find a way to end up 4-12 or 5-11 next year too.

Classyposter58;1560682 wrote:Teddy #1, Clowney #2, Bortles #3

SportsAndLady;1560720 wrote:Solid contribution

thavoice;1560730 wrote:Cutler probably would command too much for the browns to want to shell out for what they would want.

I think they should go ahead and draft their guy at 5, and have Hoyer and some other guy on the roster. QBs are better suited nowadays to start when they enter The League. People want to look at Rodgers, and Brady, and Kapernick as guys who sat after they were drafted and now look at them. DIff situations for all of them, but one that is similiar to all of them is they all had a solid starter already in place to guide the team and the browns dont.

IggyPride00;1560754 wrote:Exactly. Both the Packers and Niners were in the NFC championship game the season before Rodgers and Kap respectively took over.

No one was calling for them to play. One a 4 win football team, you don't have that luxury as the 1st bad pass of the game leads to calls to play the 1st rounder.

thavoice;1560760 wrote:and no one expected brady to even become a starter, let alone one of the league's best ever. From what i had read, Kap was seen as a project and not someone they thought would take the reigns. Heck, if SMith doesnt get hurt he may never have played yet.

Some brwons fans wanna start hoyer, and let their top pick sit and develope. With the new CBA and salary structure you can financially do it, but just play the starter. What if Hoyer shows some instances of being OK, then what do you do? Let him go another season? He showed to be OK in his brief stint but he will have growing pains. Then you have more growing pains when Manziel starts most likely and then you fire a coach. Again.

Starter your future franchise. Recent history shows they can be successful, and let them grow up playing the game

IggyPride00;1560769 wrote:I totally agree, and made the same argument after we drafted Weeden because of what happened in 2007 with Anderson/Quinn.

When you have a team that is so starved for wins like Cleveland, if the "bridge" starter shows anything and wins some games it becomes nearly impossible to then get him out of town so you can start your new guy (who is bound to struggle as a rookie). Then the second guessing starts and the vicious cycle begins again.

If you are going to draft a QB in the 1st round he needs to play and you need to commit to him through thick and thin.

Azubuike24;1560652 wrote:In a 4-3, Clowney should be the Browns #1 target...

like_that;1560772 wrote:There were only a few people who were fapping to the idea of weeden, and if I'm not mistaken weren't you one of them? The pick made fans excited and we were gonna sell a lot of tickets.... LOL

Mulva;1560792 wrote:Defensive players should not exist to the Browns in the first round.



I'm pretty sure this is correct. I remember posts about how much excitement there was gonna be for the offense with Weeden and T-Rich.

Classyposter58;1560682 wrote:Haha well according to ESPN you'll have to trade up for Bortles. Teddy #1, Clowney #2, Bortles #3 and Manziel to the Browns at #4. Jacksonville is really high on him I guess

Benny The Jet;1560810 wrote:I know this isn't really the argument, but everything I've been seeing has Matthews going #2 and Clowney going to Raiders.

wes_mantooth;1560826 wrote:I think if the QB that you want isn't there and for some reason Clowney is, you either draft him...or trade the draft pick so you can drop down a few spots.

Pick6;1560828 wrote:Clowney is the most overrated player in the draft.