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Apr 23, 2014 9:51 PM
IggyPride00;1608494 wrote:The league apparently thinks we are going to be a dog shit football team this season.

We got the 1 mandatory Thursday night game and our only other non 1:00 start is against Oakland and it is a 4:25 game around mid season.
You mean a team that hasn't won more than 5 games since 2007 didn't get any primetime games?!?! No fucking way!!!!!
Apr 23, 2014 9:51pm
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Apr 23, 2014 10:02 PM
IggyPride00;1608494 wrote:The league apparently thinks we are going to be a dog shit football team this season.

We got the 1 mandatory Thursday night game and our only other non 1:00 start is against Oakland and it is a 4:25 game around mid season.
The league doesn't think the browns are gonna be dogshit, they were dogshit last year so they don't get prime time games this year.
Apr 23, 2014 10:02pm
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Apr 23, 2014 10:21 PM
SportsAndLady;1608516 wrote:The league doesn't think the browns are gonna be dogshit, they were dogshit last year so they don't get prime time games this year.
Very tough concept for iggy to understand. This clearly means the browns are automatically going to have a horrible season, because NFL scheduling says so.

He will find anything to bitch about.
Apr 23, 2014 10:21pm
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Apr 23, 2014 11:01 PM
I spoke too soon.

When Johnny Football is leading us to the playoffs and the NFL rookie of the year we will get flexed into better primetime games as the season goes on the last half.

The the year after we will get the full compliment of Primetime games as well as the ESPN trucks at training camp as Johnny will be Tebow 2.0 as far as media coverage goes except he can actually play.

Haslam is a big time marketing guy, and literally has to be shitting himself in excitement over the possibilities of Johnny Football. At the very least dude will be in the top 5 in the league in jersey sales.
Apr 23, 2014 11:01pm
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Apr 23, 2014 11:03 PM
IggyPride00;1608474 wrote:Kelly Holcomb all over again.

Browns fans are the worst about falling under the spell of journeymen who have a nice game or 2 but ultimately are flashes in the pan.

If they pass on Johnny Football and he is a stud somewhere else saving some other franchise (as he will) then Farmer will get what he has coming to him as Haslem will be the most irate owner in the NFL.
Hoyer may or may not be good because you were correct that he can't be judged on just a few games. Johnny football has an even smaller sample size than that.
Apr 23, 2014 11:03pm
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Apr 23, 2014 11:05 PM
IggyPride00;1608535 wrote:I spoke too soon.

When Johnny Football is leading us to the playoffs and the NFL rookie of the year we will get flexed into better primetime games as the season goes on the last half.

The the year after we will get the full compliment of Primetime games as well as the ESPN trucks at training camp as Johnny will be Tebow 2.0 as far as media coverage goes except he can actually play.

Haslam is a big time marketing guy, and literally has to be shitting himself in excitement over the possibilities of Johnny Football. At the very least dude will be in the top 5 in the league in jersey sales.
The only thing I agree with in this entire post, is that he will be top 5 in jersey sales, regardless of where he goes.
Apr 23, 2014 11:05pm
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Apr 24, 2014 12:40 AM
Looking at how the schedule lines up if the browns don't fuck up the draft 9-5 or 10-6 is very possible and maybe even better. I am a bengals fan and don't see them doing better the 8-8 this year.
Apr 24, 2014 12:40am
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Apr 24, 2014 5:35 AM
sportchampps;1608549 wrote:I am a bengals fan and don't see them doing better the 8-8 this year.
Why?
Apr 24, 2014 5:35am
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Apr 24, 2014 5:38 AM
Mulva;1608482 wrote:Very manageable schedule as long as they don't start 0-3.

Weeks 14-17 are tough.
Btw, this is as optimistic as it gets for Mulva. Everyone cherish this moment.
Apr 24, 2014 5:38am
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Apr 24, 2014 8:32 AM
The way the schedule breaks down for the Bengals is fucking tough. With Dalton at QB I dont have much faith in us winning tough games. I also see us probably splitting in the division if the Browns have a solid draft.

Games I see as wins:
Tennesse
Baltimore
Jacksonville
@ Tamba Bay
Pittsburgh
Cleveland

Games that will be losses:
@Indy
@ New Orleans
Denver
@ Cleveland
@ Baltimore

the other games I wouldn't favor us in are:
Atlanta (if their healthy they are a good football team)
Carolina
@Pittsburgh
@houston (depending on their QB Play)
Apr 24, 2014 8:32am
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Apr 24, 2014 8:56 AM
like_that;1608561 wrote:Btw, this is as optimistic as it gets for Mulva. Everyone cherish this moment.
I keeps it real.
Apr 24, 2014 8:56am
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Apr 24, 2014 9:20 AM
sportchampps;1608585 wrote:The way the schedule breaks down for the Bengals is fucking tough. With Dalton at QB I dont have much faith in us winning tough games. I also see us probably splitting in the division if the Browns have a solid draft.

Games I see as wins:
Tennesse
Baltimore
Jacksonville
@ Tamba Bay
Pittsburgh
Cleveland

Games that will be losses:
@Indy
@ New Orleans
Denver
@ Cleveland
@ Baltimore

the other games I wouldn't favor us in are:
Atlanta (if their healthy they are a good football team)
Carolina
@Pittsburgh
@houston (depending on their QB Play)
Don't want to get into the Bengals schedule in this thread much but I agree with pretty much all of this except they will be favored against Atlanta and Carolina. I see 8-8 for the Bengals unless Andy Dalton plays better than we think and there isn't much of a loss on defense with Zimmer gone.
Apr 24, 2014 9:20am
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Apr 24, 2014 9:27 AM
*This is not a thavoice-esque post about the Browns, this is a serious post*

Just ran through the Browns schedule and IF, it's obviously a big if but IF they have good QB play I think 9-7 is attainable. Hoyer going down last year was the only thing that kept them from going 8-8 or possibly better, so I think if he's healthy the whole year or they draft a good rookie QB they can be 8-8 or better this year. Who am I kidding though, they'll be on the third stringer by week 7 as they sit at 4-2 and then go 2-8 down the stretch.
Apr 24, 2014 9:27am
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Apr 24, 2014 9:43 AM
IggyPride00;1608535 wrote:I spoke too soon.

When Johnny Football is leading us to the playoffs and the NFL rookie of the year we will get flexed into better primetime games as the season goes on the last half.

The the year after we will get the full compliment of Primetime games as well as the ESPN trucks at training camp as Johnny will be Tebow 2.0 as far as media coverage goes except he can actually play.

Haslam is a big time marketing guy, and literally has to be shitting himself in excitement over the possibilities of Johnny Football. At the very least dude will be in the top 5 in the league in jersey sales.
You're a fucking idiot you know that right?

The browns are not taking a QB at 4. It's just as simple as that. The ONLY way they could land JFF, is if they traded up from their 2nd first rounder. Farmer isn't doing that. Stop jerking it to some pipedream of yours and actually focus on something that could likely happen. As in, taking Robinson/Mack at the 4 spot.

In conclusion, you sound like a fucking idiot and we all hate you.
Apr 24, 2014 9:43am
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Apr 24, 2014 10:05 AM
Terry_Tate;1608604 wrote:*This is not a thavoice-esque post about the Browns, this is a serious post*

Just ran through the Browns schedule and IF, it's obviously a big if but IF they have good QB play I think 9-7 is attainable. Hoyer going down last year was the only thing that kept them from going 8-8 or possibly better, so I think if he's healthy the whole year or they draft a good rookie QB they can be 8-8 or better this year. Who am I kidding though, they'll be on the third stringer by week 7 as they sit at 4-2 and then go 2-8 down the stretch.
Thinking more like 11-5, 10-6 for the browns......
Apr 24, 2014 10:05am
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Apr 24, 2014 11:36 AM
As in, taking Robinson/Mack at the 4 spot.
Mack is the second coming of Aaron Curry. Robinson couldn't even play his natural position of left tackle on this team.

Either situation would lead to a march on Berea. Haslam can't have that happening on his watch.

You don't draft a guy who will be a bust, or an O-lineman playing right tackle with the 4th pick in the draft.
Apr 24, 2014 11:36am
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Apr 24, 2014 11:39 AM
DeyDurkie5;1608617 wrote:You're a fucking idiot you know that right?

The browns are not taking a QB at 4. It's just as simple as that. The ONLY way they could land JFF, is if they traded up from their 2nd first rounder. Farmer isn't doing that. Stop jerking it to some pipedream of yours and actually focus on something that could likely happen. As in, taking Robinson/Mack at the 4 spot.

In conclusion, you sound like a fucking idiot and we all hate you.
And I think that's what Yahoo Sports had them doing with their latest mock (an exercise in derpness, but whatever) with the move up a couple spaces to get JFF deal. Of the main QBs in the draft, I think Bortles was whom they had going first, to Minnesota, I think, in the early 10s.
Apr 24, 2014 11:39am
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Apr 24, 2014 12:02 PM
IggyPride00;1608679 wrote:Mack is the second coming of Aaron Curry.
Completely different players
Apr 24, 2014 12:02pm
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Apr 24, 2014 12:06 PM
IggyPride00;1608679 wrote:Mack is the second coming of Aaron Curry.
Based on what?? They were different prospects projected to have different roles and had significantly different production in college.
IggyPride00;1608679 wrote:Robinson couldn't even play his natural position of left tackle on this team.
RT is significantly easier and he's a freak, he would easily be able to handle it.
IggyPride00;1608679 wrote:You don't draft a guy who will be a bust
No one has any f*cking idea who will or won't be a bust. GFTO with that nonsense
IggyPride00;1608679 wrote:an O-lineman playing right tackle with the 4th pick in the draft.
This I agree with. You don't take a RT with the 4th pick
Apr 24, 2014 12:06pm
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Apr 24, 2014 12:18 PM
Browns 7-9 or 6-10 at best.
Apr 24, 2014 12:18pm
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Apr 24, 2014 12:56 PM
Why are you so sure (DeyDurkie) that JFF will be gone at 4?
Apr 24, 2014 12:56pm
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Apr 24, 2014 12:57 PM
Actually with the new rookie wage scale, a team can draft a RT in the top ten and not have to worry. A offense tackle at 4 I would not mind. Would make our oline one of the best in the league.
Apr 24, 2014 12:57pm
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Apr 24, 2014 1:00 PM
shook_17;1608710 wrote:Actually with the new rookie wage scale, a team can draft a RT in the top ten and not have to worry. A offense tackle at 4 I would not mind. Would make our oline one of the best in the league.
It already is one of the best in the league. There's areas of much greater need.

You wanna spend a 2nd-4th rounder on a tackle to improve depth, sure. But don't spend your 4th overall pick on that.
Apr 24, 2014 1:00pm
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Apr 24, 2014 1:39 PM
shook_17;1608710 wrote:Actually with the new rookie wage scale, a team can draft a RT in the top ten and not have to worry. A offense tackle at 4 I would not mind. Would make our oline one of the best in the league.
but you forgot you dont have a QB.
Apr 24, 2014 1:39pm
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Apr 24, 2014 1:45 PM
thavoice;1608730 wrote:but you forgot you dont have a QB.
Yeah we do, we have a journeymen that Belichek the great freely let walk.

I've been watching this kid play QB since he was 14 and the next team that wins anything with him at the helm with be the first. He's a nice guy I'm sure, but he's underwhelmed everywhere he's ever been.
Apr 24, 2014 1:45pm