shook_17;1595674 wrote:^^ about time.

wes_mantooth;1596959 wrote:Yeah, i have always talked myself out of it because tickets are soooo cheap since we suck. I am putting faith in this front office....god, i am so tired of losing.

shook_17;1596963 wrote:Heard that buddy. Ive had tickets for 6 years now, all I can really say is atleast the party in the Muni lot is great.

Also people ask me why I haven't given the tickets up, honestly as soon as I stop getting season tickets they will start winning. And if I can't enjoy them winning nobody can! haha

Dr. KnOiTaLL;1596950 wrote:My thought process being, regardless of value,

lhslep134;1596985 wrote:Therein lies our disagreement. I'm putting a lot of stock into the value of the pick whereas, IMO, you're more about straight improving the team.

Given what you just hypothesized, choosing between Robinson, Watkins, Clowney, Barr, and Mack, I really don't know what I would do. Barr and Mack have extremely high ceilings without the work ethic issues of Clowney (which is an instant "stay away" for me personally regardless of his all world potential), Watkins is a truly elite prospect and Robinson will probably be the next perennial pro bowl tackle.

If you're concerned about value, you probably trade down there unless you are that high on Mack or Barr and don't think they'll be available after a trade down.

If you're concerned about helping us RIGHT NOW? Robinson is probably the guy. He would shore up the right side which would allow Schwartz to move inside and also just have more depth in case of injury.

thavoice;1597008 wrote:Apparently Manziel had a great pro day.

But the browns werent there to see it.

Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 1h Me: “I was interested you guys haven’t been at QB pro days.” #Browns GM Ray Farmer: “Are you sure I wasn’t? How do you know?” Big smile.

SportsAndLady;1597044 wrote:http://m.espn.go.com/nfl/story?storyId=10682317

Hope so

like_that;1597027 wrote:Farmer has stated he will work out Manziel at their facilities. Non story.

DeyDurkie5;1594670 wrote:Let's draft him based on one tackle

Dr. KnOiTaLL;1597422 wrote:A lot of people are making waves about Gordon's comments. You think he's on point, or is it smoke screen?

shook_17;1597445 wrote:I didn't see what he said. What did he say?

thavoice;1597446 wrote:Just was saying with the 4th pick they are gonna select a QB. WOuldnt say which one, or which one he wanted.

shook_17;1597468 wrote:Browns need to get Jackson.

shook_17;1597468 wrote:Browns need to get Jackson.

Dr. KnOiTaLL;1597478 wrote:No way. If he came to town, I could see us losing both him AND Gordon. I think there will be very few teams interested in DeSean after hearing about his close connection to the Crips of Los Angeles. No one wants another Aaron Hernandez. Unbelievable how quickly these guys can derail their careers.